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| 22:00.34 | enyc | hrrm http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/05/broadcom_wifi_chip_bugs/ |
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| 22:05.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL |
| 22:05.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | nice one |
| 22:05.31 | jon_ | Did the neo900 project die? Last update on neo900.org was Christmas, nobody is talking about it on talk.maemo.org, and the last post in the forums there was almost a month ago (and was the only post that month). |
| 22:06.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | not much to report, we're busy hiring layouter |
| 22:06.11 | atk | No, it didn't die |
| 22:06.25 | atk | What happened to the current layouters? |
| 22:06.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | you know their names, the're in here |
| 22:06.59 | atk | Yes, ahycka I think, and I can't remember her friend's name |
| 22:07.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ceene did an awesome job creating all the footprints we need |
| 22:08.09 | jon_ | Ok... am thinking of finally buying the "partial funding" shop item towards a bare board. Still having good progress then? I should give my money and be patient? |
| 22:08.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | I did a few minor git commits to layout and schematics 'style' during the last few days, to accomodate for a few minor 'issues' aka questions that came up when we handed the stuff to layouter |
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| 22:09.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | jon_: I can't promise more than I did a year ago, we're trying hard and there's no known obstacle we couldn't solve |
| 22:09.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | just terribly short on manpower |
| 22:09.57 | jon_ | No worries, that's all I needed to know. :) Thanks, and keep up the good work! |
| 22:10.00 | enyc | DocScrutinizer05: whats happened about proto_v2 and PoP ram/cpu ? |
| 22:10.16 | enyc | there was a soldering issue uurc |
| 22:10.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | enyc: PoP RAM is no issue for Neo900 right now |
| 22:10.28 | jon_ | If I had any experience with what you need I'd offer a hand, but I'm a cybersecurity guy. lol |
| 22:11.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | it wouldn't even be an issue for GTA04A5 / GolDeliCo if they had enough funds to afford the test runs producing paperweights |
| 22:11.19 | atk | DocScrutinizer05: What I mean to say, last I head ahycka was working on the layout, was she unable to continue, was it not possible to hire her? |
| 22:11.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think she lost interest |
| 22:11.46 | atk | I see |
| 22:12.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | since she offered voluntary work, we can't prod or moan |
| 22:12.22 | atk | That is an unfortunate side effect of working on big projects as a volunteer. |
| 22:12.49 | atk | If you're looking to hire a layouter, have you considered offering to pay her? |
| 22:12.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, we're now trying to get professional support |
| 22:13.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | I started with trying to hire her, she genuinely wasn't interested |
| 22:13.33 | atk | I see |
| 22:14.07 | atk | I feel layout can be quite a boring task |
| 22:14.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'll get to know more about new layouter on weekend |
| 22:14.29 | atk | and, long |
| 22:14.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, indeed |
| 22:14.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | you need to be born for that |
| 22:15.03 | enyc | DocScrutinizer05: where do you find layouters? |
| 22:15.15 | atk | in the layouter shop, obviously :P |
| 22:15.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | like maybe for 10000 pieces jigsaw puzzles, or building empire state building model from matches |
| 22:15.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | enyc: that's not a simple task, particularly since we want to use FOSS tools, read: kicad |
| 22:16.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | and we need a professional who can do OMAP 515pin 0,4mm pitch BGA layout |
| 22:16.49 | enyc | DocScrutinizer05: have you submitted any kicad patches upstream? |
| 22:17.09 | enyc | DocScrutinizer05: so kicad/other devs carry usable patches ongoing, rather than needing to keep your own ''custom'' variants? |
| 22:17.23 | atk | If you need help dealing with the submission side of patches (cleanup, dealing with mailing lists, etc) I can help |
| 22:19.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | quote from our layouter >>OK I thank you for this chat, I hope to hear from you guys ... your OMAP comment is correct. 0.4mm pitch is no kindergarden stuff :-):-)<< |
| 22:20.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | enyc: we don't patch kicad. We had a few bugs reported and instantly fixed iirc |
| 22:20.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | atk: much appreciated, I'll think about it |
| 22:21.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((quote from our layouter)) in spe |
| 22:24.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh, and another BIG THANK YOU to ravelo who really saved my life a few times already during last 2 or 3 months |
| 22:25.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | it been him who found the layouter |
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| 22:50.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok I updated http://neo900.org/stuff/latest/neo900-schematics.pdf - no idea how to update http://neo900.org/resources website accordingly |
| 22:53.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh and yesterday werner fixed a tiny flaw in eeshow I found, you will want to build the latest version from git if you want to create the schematics pdf file yourself |
| 22:54.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | atk: if you feel chatty... a short summary on tmo is always welcome ;-) |
| 22:54.23 | atk | Maybe tomorrow, I was thinking of sleeping :P |
| 22:54.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | very welcome :-) |
| 22:54.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | have a nice rest |
| 22:55.25 | atk | Thanks, good night. |
| 22:55.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | n8 |
| 23:00.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote: this is a list of the footprints (actually: foorprint files, some may contain multiple components' footprints) in project, many thanks to ceene for them: http://paste.opensuse.org/37078906 |
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