| 00:19.59 | *** join/#neo900 ds2 (noinf@rehut.com) |
| 00:58.15 | Oksana | How is it going with news? http://neo900.org/ Last I heard, camera switches were ordered, and RAMs were on their way to be attached to test-boards? |
| 01:06.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 01:07.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | and dos1 threatened to send out your draft as "official" newsletter |
| 01:08.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm basically afk until Saturday now. Maybe my new DS1104 scope will lure me back to PC before I leave town tomorrow afternoon |
| 01:08.24 | wpwrak | quick ! call the anti-terror SWAT team ! we can't let such heinous threats go unanswered :) |
| 01:09.14 | Oksana | :) |
| 01:10.17 | wpwrak | ah, so you'll get no NFC for christmas then. i expected to finish the critter around the 24th. still have a few more sections to write and then proof-read, but most of it is there now. |
| 01:11.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | please at least explain *why* it needs a mcu |
| 01:11.44 | wpwrak | oh, it's all explained. every damn little detail of it. don't worry :) |
| 01:11.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | good |
| 01:12.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | hates MCUs that are not really needed |
| 01:13.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | much trouble and hassle for zilch benefit |
| 01:13.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | and of course since tomorrow it's xmas today my tooth starts aching |
| 01:15.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | my father used to say "I need that like stomach ache at xmas" |
| 01:16.31 | wpwrak | toothache at xmas also sounds nice :) |
| 01:17.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsck xmas. It's nasty any time |
| 01:17.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ouch! |
| 01:17.21 | wpwrak | almost as good as "tornado right before easter" (so that all the emergency responders are on their way to the easter holidays) |
| 01:18.23 | wpwrak | (we had that a couple of years ago in buenos aires. it was almost funny - took them something like two days to realize what exactly had happened :) |
| 01:21.40 | DocScrutinizer51 | **F** **U** ZNC! |
| 01:22.17 | gry | what did it do this time? |
| 01:23.13 | wpwrak | from the sound of it, it intravenously administered an overdose of pure anger :) |
| 01:23.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | it plays back buffers at random points in time |
| 01:24.05 | Oksana | Well, local alternative would probably be heatwave at xmas. To double the probability of fire, and such. |
| 01:24.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | those buffers consist of several hundred lines of posts, of which every single one causes an alarm click playback on my N900 xchat |
| 01:25.14 | wpwrak | Oksana: oh, we had that last year. not much fire (some, but that was transformer stations going up in flames), but widespread blackouts. for weeks. |
| 01:25.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ponders ... AAAAAARGHHHH! |
| 01:26.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsckng ZNC did it again |
| 01:26.17 | wpwrak | no better fun than sitting in the dark without water, elevators, air conditioning, etc., at xmas and then at new year while it's some 35+ C outside :) |
| 01:26.28 | gry | use quassel then or something? (quassel2go still worked about a year ago on it) |
| 01:26.51 | wpwrak | luckily, the building where i live was spared :) |
| 01:26.52 | gry | znc _will_ do crazy things when it thinks you lose connection. including lose messages, play buffer, etc. |
| 01:27.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ponders to get a decent sat phone incl at least 9600bd data |
| 01:28.44 | Oksana | ((It's better than giant icicles falling down from roof (don't ask me where I got the idea).)) Seriously, I would even be glad to see blackouts during first two weeks of 2015. Some non-computer time is needed here. Elevators? Not using them, either way. Air conditioning? Open windows, it's summer here. Water? We drink bottle water, not tap water. Though, lack of water would have been too much. |
| 01:29.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | OUTCH AGAIN!!! |
| 01:29.06 | wpwrak | (sat phone) or this, with rolls of cat5: http://img1.photographersdirect.com/img/13725/wm/pd3031577.jpg |
| 01:29.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | W*T*F???! |
| 01:30.51 | wpwrak | Oksana: oh, elevators get interesting very quickly. remember, 35+ C and nothing to cool things down, many tall buildings, and you won't have water to wash off the sweat. kinda perfect :) |
| 01:31.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | now all you ZNC fanclub tell me how to prepare for a decent relevant bug ticket |
| 01:31.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | AAGAAAAAIIIINNNN |
| 01:32.33 | Oksana | https://github.com/znc/znc/issues |
| 01:32.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | it kills my nerves, my speakers in N900, and today it even killed maemo fremantle, literally |
| 01:33.10 | gry | DocScrutinizer05: /msg *status set AutoClearChanBuffer true |
| 01:33.11 | gry | ? |
| 01:33.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think it is already set |
| 01:34.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | why the heck is the damn thing playing back buffers at random points in time? I mean I'm logged in to my home WLAN since >30min now |
| 01:35.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess there must be a massive bug in some new feature I enabled |
| 01:36.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | (updated from 0.98 to 1.4 two days ago) |
| 01:38.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | disables http://wiki.znc.in/clearbufferonmsg |
| 01:39.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | chansavwer and log module can't cause it AAAAARTGGGHHH AGAIN |
| 01:40.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | W*T*F?? |
| 01:41.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | AGAIN |
| 01:42.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | and again: **F** **U** ZNC |
| 01:43.05 | gry | sorry. I have no idea. (if it has that setting ON, it gotta clear the buffer after playback, and not play it again.) |
| 01:44.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's constantly logged in to my local WLAN, so why the heck is it playing back *anything* at all? |
| 01:44.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | (it == my xchat client) |
| 01:45.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | again |
| 01:45.11 | wpwrak | have you set sadist-mode to "false" ? :) |
| 01:45.22 | gry | oh, try to load /znc LoadMod route_replies |
| 01:45.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | I need to shut down xchat to go have a nap |
| 01:45.59 | gry | (it at least makes the who replies go away. the buffer playback ought to behave) |
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| 01:48.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | [root@lagrange init.d]# reboot |
| 01:48.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | Broadcast message from root (pts/3) (Tue Dec 23 02:47:12 2014): |
| 01:48.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | The system is going down for reboot NOW! |
| 01:48.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | [root@lagrange init.d]# Connection to 78.46.226.25 closed by remote host. |
| 01:48.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | Connection to 78.46.226.25 closed. |
| 01:48.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | real 10883m18.764s |
| 01:48.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | user 0m14.287s |
| 01:48.25 | gry | timed ssh, that is smart |
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| 01:52.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | smartass |
| 01:52.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok ZNC came up as expected |
| 01:53.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hope sixwheeledbeast is happy with how this went |
| 01:53.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | n8 |
| 01:53.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | hugs his new DS1104 and heads out |
| 01:56.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | againl |
| 01:56.38 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~ping |
| 01:56.39 | infobot | ~pong |
| 02:00.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | WTF? I'm disconnected |
| 02:00.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly freenode kicks me for AGAN!!!! flooding |
| 02:02.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | ok it got one more chance to behave |
| 02:02.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | and wated it |
| 02:02.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | wastd* |
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| 02:03.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | again |
| 02:03.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry folks |
| 02:04.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | [jr@lagrange ~]$ /etc/init.d/znc stop |
| 02:04.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | znc beenden: [FEHLGESCHLAGEN] |
| 02:05.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | *cough* |
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| 02:05.52 | *** kick/#neo900 [DocScrutinizer51!~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg] by DocScrutinizer05 (T900: "User terminated!") |
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| 02:06.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | hahaha |
| 02:06.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | and again |
| 02:07.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: |
| 02:07.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | [jr@lagrange ~]$ killall znc |
| 02:07.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | znc(2593): Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt |
| 02:07.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | znc: Kein Prozess abgebrochen |
| 02:07.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | how much was a hitman? |
| 03:22.12 | Oksana | Quuiiieeeettttt...... |
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| 07:31.48 | kerio | holy shit DocScrutinizer05 is mad |
| 07:37.59 | enyc | kerio: why do you say that? |
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| 11:38.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | enyc: prolly because I actually was mad about ZNC |
| 11:39.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm still, kinda. since I'm leaving for holiday in a few hoirs and no time to fix ZNC before |
| 11:39.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | hours* |
| 11:39.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops |
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| 11:43.19 | kerio | so |
| 11:43.23 | kerio | lemme get this straight |
| 11:43.25 | kerio | you decided to upgrade znc |
| 11:43.36 | kerio | the day before you leave for holidays |
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| 11:50.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | let's see |
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| 11:50.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: for some odd reason ZNC added a "autoclearbuffer=false" to each particular channel of my config |
| 11:53.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: yes, that's about to the point ;-P |
| 11:53.47 | kerio | oh, that's what it was |
| 11:53.55 | kerio | yeah it's kinda weird at the moment |
| 11:54.24 | kerio | /msg *controlpanel setchan autoclearbuffer * true |
| 11:54.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | it still doesn't explain why ZNC thinks it needs to playback buffers every 5orso minutes |
| 11:55.14 | kerio | hold on, why isn't your autoclearbuffer false |
| 11:55.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I hope even when it virtually still does, now there will not be anything to playback |
| 11:55.26 | kerio | aren't you using clearbuffonmsg |
| 11:56.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | I have no clue. I simply used the old config and ZNC was happy with it and transformed it into its new "syntax" (actually added stuff and chamged a few bits like e.g. the way password is stored) |
| 11:57.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | I mentioned before what been the two checkboxes I ticked in addition to what been there before |
| 11:57.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | clikclicClickclikclicClickclikclicClickclikclicClickclikclicClickclikclicClickclikclicClickclikclicClickclikclicClick AGAIN |
| 11:59.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | 125724 <DocScrutinizer05> [12:57:13] I mentioned before what been the two checkboxes I ticked in addition to what been there before |
| 11:59.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | 125724 <***> Playback Complete. |
| 12:01.16 | kerio | did you connect with another client |
| 12:01.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | then "Disconnected" |
| 12:01.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | the [2014-12-23 Tue 12:57:43] <DocScrutinizer05> clikclicClick didn't make it thorugh to xchat |
| 12:02.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea why it disconnects but might be related to N900-global, since SIP connectivity also dropped |
| 12:02.54 | DocScrutinizer51 | 125724 <DocScrutinizer05> [12:57:13] I mentioned before what been the two checkboxes I ticked in addition to what been there before |
| 12:02.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | 125724 <***> Playback Complete. |
| 12:03.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | HAHAHA |
| 12:03.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | I sent this dunno maybe 5 min ago |
| 12:04.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | sth is *very* odd with this thing |
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| 12:05.54 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: how many channels do you have on that thing |
| 12:06.01 | kerio | would it be a problem to clear the config? |
| 12:06.09 | kerio | and start from a clear slate |
| 12:06.15 | kerio | i mean, it's a crap solution |
| 12:07.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | 130041 <DocScrutinizer51> 125724 <DocScrutinizer05> [12:57:13] I mentioned before what been the two checkboxes I ticked in addition to what been there before |
| 12:07.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | 130043 <DocScrutinizer51> 125724 <***> Playback Complete. |
| 12:07.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | 130250 * Disconnected (). |
| 12:08.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | 130624 <***> Buffer Playback... |
| 12:08.22 | DocScrutinizer51 | 130624 <DocScrutinizer05> [13:03:01] HAHAHA |
| 12:08.22 | DocScrutinizer51 | 130625 <kerio> [13:06:14] i mean, it's a crap solution |
| 12:08.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | 130625 <***> Playback Complete. |
| 12:08.46 | kerio | is 51 working? |
| 12:09.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, for some reason it disconnects all the time, then reconnects and of course plays back buffers |
| 12:10.01 | kerio | i'd make you an account on my znc |
| 12:10.15 | kerio | but it's not accessible from the n900 :c |
| 12:10.27 | kerio | (not without ssh tunneling) |
| 12:10.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | that won't change things since it's the diconnect on N900 xchat that triggers the problem |
| 12:11.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | I could think of some ping from freenode not making it to xchat anymore |
| 12:11.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | DCCbounce maybe? |
| 12:11.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | or sth like that |
| 12:12.27 | kerio | no, irrelevant |
| 12:12.41 | kerio | so it's ok from the computer then? |
| 12:12.50 | kerio | well i mean |
| 12:12.56 | kerio | you can just autoclearbuffers |
| 12:13.11 | kerio | the thing is, it's always going to show "*** buffer playback *** playback complete" |
| 12:13.27 | kerio | do you have the playback module loaded? |
| 12:13.30 | kerio | or the savebuff |
| 12:13.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | the problem is the disconnect |
| 12:13.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | not buffers |
| 12:13.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | not ZNC per se |
| 12:14.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | xchat disconnecting, for unclear reasons |
| 12:14.15 | kerio | oh ok |
| 12:14.24 | kerio | and this changed with the upgrade |
| 12:14.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | and there's only this one xchat_n900 client on this ZNC account |
| 12:14.40 | kerio | weird |
| 12:14.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I for sure didn't change anything in N900 |
| 12:15.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | so yes, it must be caused by ZNC update, or some madness in my server (couldn't think of any) |
| 12:15.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | or freenode |
| 12:16.05 | kerio | nah, freenode is not relevant here |
| 12:16.18 | kerio | it's n900, n900's connection, server's connection, server |
| 12:16.43 | DocScrutinizer51 | 131602 <***> Buffer Playback... |
| 12:16.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | 131602 <DocScrutinizer05> [13:15:57] or freenode |
| 12:16.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | GRRRRRRRRR |
| 12:17.01 | kerio | tcp timeouts? i dunno |
| 12:18.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | yep |
| 12:18.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | prolly |
| 12:19.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | *dicconnected* |
| 12:19.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | GRRRRRR |
| 12:19.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | and reconnected again |
| 12:19.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | and lag again |
| 12:20.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | above lines -1 and -2 lag (like this one), -3 and -4 made it through |
| 12:21.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | hey, maybe freenode idoru(?) scanning the server on reconnection triggers fail2ban or sth? |
| 12:21.53 | kerio | try removing fail2ban i guess |
| 12:22.00 | kerio | oh by the way |
| 12:22.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | gonna remove roundabout everything |
| 12:22.11 | kerio | i discovered that znc reads the .pem file on every connection |
| 12:22.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | and clickClickclcik it survived lag - prolly diconnected and reconnected again |
| 12:23.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm pretty sure I got no .pem, already frowned on the line in config |
| 12:23.32 | kerio | why don't you like strong encryption? ;-; |
| 12:24.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't give a *** about encryption as long as the basics are fsckedup |
| 12:25.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I updated to ZNC1.4 to enable cert and crypt modules |
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| 12:25.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeehaaa netsplit |
| 12:25.17 | kerio | crypt? |
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| 12:25.22 | kerio | what for |
| 12:25.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | whatever the name |
| 12:25.31 | kerio | oh, sasl |
| 12:25.38 | kerio | holy shit, #znc had 700 people (now 500) |
| 12:25.58 | mvaenskae | sasl is bad? |
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| 12:26.42 | kerio | sasl is good |
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| 12:28.08 | mvaenskae | i use it for freenode; at least it gives me now a nice green lock /s |
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| 12:29.41 | kerio | rofl |
| 12:29.41 | kerio | no, that's ssl |
| 12:30.10 | mvaenskae | kerio: https://freenode.net/sasl/ |
| 12:30.22 | kerio | yes, i'm well aware of what sasl is |
| 12:30.30 | kerio | the green lock is unrelated |
| 12:30.33 | kerio | you can do sasl in plaintext |
| 12:33.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I'd start with asking "green lock? where exactly?" |
| 12:34.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | when in URL textbox of a browser, then it's completely unrelated to SASL |
| 12:34.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | it simply means "HTTPS" |
| 12:35.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I gues mvaenskae is well aware of that |
| 12:38.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | 133302 * Now talking on #neo900 |
| 12:38.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | 133552 * Disconnected (). |
| 12:39.01 | DocScrutinizer51 | 133613 * Now talking on #neo900 |
| 12:39.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | SIP down |
| 12:39.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | I wonder if somebody attacking my wlan |
| 12:39.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha i typed this during last 75s and when xchat said "*disconnected" it now pops up here |
| 12:40.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | sth is *completely* odd |
| 12:41.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | who the heck could buffer my posts xchat to freenode and playback/forward them after xchat disconnected? |
| 12:41.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if my server gets flooded |
| 12:42.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | but then, ssh connection is just fine |
| 12:43.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ZNC /mods/global/webadmin/listusers webmin interface just fine |
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| 12:48.25 | kerio | signs point to weirdass internet problems |
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| 12:57.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | sort of |
| 12:57.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | server is fine, no flooding of any sorts |
| 12:58.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I should reboot my wrt54 |
| 12:58.30 | wpwrak | it was december 2014, the year when skynet reached consciousness and began to explore the global network. clumsily at first, but it learned fast ... first sony, now freenode, ... |
| 12:59.12 | skynet | yoyoyo |
| 12:59.28 | wpwrak | i always suspected that :) |
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| 13:00.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | hello world |
| 13:00.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow, only 30s lag |
| 13:01.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | THAT can't be my WLAN |
| 13:02.20 | wpwrak | skynet: that's what happens when you make "your LAN" span the globe :) |
| 13:02.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
| 13:02.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ork my train leaves in 2h |
| 13:03.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | >:-( |
| 13:03.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ |
| 13:06.24 | wpwrak | hah, that's how you think of us ! orcs ! :) |
| 13:07.06 | wpwrak | safe journey (DB, you're quite the thrill seeker :) and enjoy the xmess break ! :) |
| 13:11.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | SIP also completely dead, WTF?! |
| 13:12.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | this machine conects via same switch-router and "just works" |
| 13:12.34 | wpwrak | didn't obama say he wanted cyberwar ? :) |
| 13:12.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems he sztarted on my WLAN? |
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| 13:15.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Sensitivity Range (ACK Timing) XXXX (Default: 2000 meters)<< WUT?? never heard of THIS |
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| 13:25.35 | sixwheeledbeast | hmm, znc playing up? |
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| 13:28.00 | kerio | you're parting, not quitting |
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| 13:30.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: sorry, I experienced weird problems and blamed ZNC. Should have stabilized again at least for you, unless you see same problems of constant (every 5 minutes) client disconnects |
| 13:31.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, no lag |
| 13:31.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | great! |
| 13:31.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | so far stuff looks good after rebooting my wlan router |
| 13:32.03 | sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer05: was fine yesterday, today closing client is deleting the channels from ZNC |
| 13:32.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, that's weird |
| 13:32.30 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: |
| 13:32.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | lemme check your config |
| 13:33.01 | kerio | check the client |
| 13:33.04 | kerio | which client is it? |
| 13:33.19 | kerio | >purple irc |
| 13:33.28 | kerio | are you seriously using empathy or whatever it's called |
| 13:33.33 | sixwheeledbeast | pidgin nothing has changed |
| 13:33.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: I enabled chansaver for you |
| 13:33.55 | sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer05: ok maybe that's it |
| 13:34.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, prolly it is |
| 13:34.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | without chansaver module every ZNC restart makes it forget the channels |
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| 13:34.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | I did a few restarts |
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| 13:34.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry for the inconvenience |
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| 13:35.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, everything seems to work fine agai, no idea what was wrong with my wrt54g |
| 13:35.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I should pack my backpacker |
| 13:36.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ |
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| 13:37.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | last remark: seems nmap on agressive timing can upset the wrt54g router (ddWRT firmware) |
| 13:37.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | nasty |
| 13:37.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ |
| 13:39.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | test |
| 13:39.36 | sixwheeledbeast | test2 |
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| 13:40.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | sort of "see y'all Saturday" |
| 13:40.34 | sixwheeledbeast | hmm seems to be N900 related. |
| 13:40.46 | sixwheeledbeast | desktop is fine on quit |
| 13:41.21 | sixwheeledbeast | o/ |
| 13:41.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | I recently enabled chansaver for you |
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| 13:44.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems pidgin /parts channels on shutdown? |
| 13:45.09 | sixwheeledbeast | seems to be pidgin for N900, it /parts instead of /quits. Desktop is fine. |
| 13:45.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | which is arguably good practice |
| 13:45.19 | sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer05: :nod: thx |
| 13:46.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | bouncer is supposed to handle downtimes caused by connectivity loss etc. Depending on the paradigm you follow for client behavior, it may /part channels on graceful shutdown |
| 13:46.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | try "killall pidgin" and you'll see it keeps channels on restart ;-) |
| 13:47.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course /part on quit is BS idea when using multiple clients ;-) |
| 13:48.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, pidgin |
| 13:48.30 | sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer05: closing "buddy list" == /quit, closing "conversation list" == /part |
| 13:51.57 | kerio | that makes no sense |
| 13:52.18 | kerio | i wonder what happens if you enable stickychan |
| 13:52.24 | kerio | will pidgin just infinite loop on shutdown? |
| 13:57.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh stickychan, yes you should try that option in ZNC |
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| 15:20.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~ping |
| 15:20.24 | infobot | ~pong |
| 15:20.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | :) |
| 15:22.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | ((true-green)) I just notice that all traffic lights here use that color & type of LED |
| 15:23.06 | DocScrutinizer51 | they also use orange for yellow light |
| 15:23.33 | DocScrutinizer51 | and ultrared for red |
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| 15:34.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | sixwheeledbeast: all ok for your bouncer now? |
| 15:35.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | my end started behaving after I rebooted my WLAN router. Now - via 3G - just works great still |
| 15:37.23 | sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer05: seems so |
| 15:37.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | just noticed DeutscheBahn gave me a seat in 'Comfort Zone' which is their term to say 'no conneccivity whatsoever in this area' :-/ |
| 15:38.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | o/ |
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| 15:45.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | hmm no, I got that wrong about 'comfort zone' it seems |
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| 19:21.25 | gottosortoutanic | i guess the gta04 bluetooth version is 2.1? |
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| 19:59.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | gottosortoutanic: not sure anout GTA04 |
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| 22:01.31 | phre4k | do you think Sailfish OS will run on the neo900? |
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| 22:58.42 | Oksana | Ask at #nemomobile . They are doing Sailfish ports, too, not only Nemo Mobile itself. Nemo and Sailfish happen to be fairly similar. |
| 23:02.18 | Oksana | phre4k: Last I heard, wayland is broken on N900. But, there were no recent news about it. |
| 23:02.56 | MonkeyofDoom | upstream Wayland/Weston runs on my N900... |
| 23:03.42 | MonkeyofDoom | fbdev backend, though some people have done some stuff with WSEGL that would supposedly allow for using the SGX through EGL |
| 23:04.04 | phre4k | ty Oksana |
| 23:04.28 | phre4k | I'll switch from my Galaxy S3 if the neo900 is ready :p |
| 23:04.28 | Oksana | np. I don't know much about it, though. |
| 23:05.44 | Oksana | Good! Neo900 will be better protected from malicious towers ;-) That;s my current topic of interest: how do I know the tower to which I am attached, and it's level of maliciousness? |
| 23:06.06 | Oksana | That's*, its*, even |
| 23:06.33 | phre4k | have to go, playing games on Wintendo :p |
| 23:06.38 | phre4k | cu! |
| 23:06.46 | SylvieLorxu | phre4k: Does it make sense to run Sailfish on the Neo900, seeing how it's more proprietary than Android? |
| 23:07.10 | Oksana | More proprietary: how so? |
| 23:07.42 | SylvieLorxu | Oksana: Android is mostly freely licensed, except for some (increasingly-close-to-the-core) "system apps" |
| 23:07.52 | SylvieLorxu | Sailfish is the same, but its UI is also proprietary |
| 23:09.05 | phre4k | oh, that's interesting. I'll stay a minute. |
| 23:09.29 | phre4k | I'd also use Android if that will be possible, but I thought Sailfish was easier because of the Debian base. |
| 23:10.07 | phre4k | but I'm fed up that Android isn't a real Linux every now and then, e.g. package manager |
| 23:10.22 | Oksana | One moment... Trying to look it up... https://github.com/sailfish-team/sailfish |
| 23:10.25 | phre4k | Ubuntu phone would also be funny. |
| 23:10.25 | SylvieLorxu | I hope Replicant would work on the Neo900: http://www.replicant.us/ |
| 23:10.46 | phre4k | I'll just wait a few months and ask again :) |
| 23:10.57 | phre4k | cu! |
| 23:11.11 | sixwheeledbeast | Debian? |
| 23:11.57 | Oksana | Nay, the link is wrong. Sailfish CFD, Lattice Boltzmann method. Not mobile OS. |
| 23:13.41 | Oksana | Vague: We are putting in place the licensing structures that will enable the community to take part in developing Sailfish. For now, we encourage you to join and contribute to Mer and Nemo, in which our developers are also active participants. In the meantime, if you are interested in hearing more about the opportunities for the licensing Sailfish OS, we encourage you to get in touch with us... |
| 23:13.43 | Oksana | ...at info@sailfishos.org. https://sailfishos.org/about-license.html |
| 23:15.03 | SylvieLorxu | Oksana: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/SailfishOSS |
| 23:16.51 | Oksana | Android, Replicant, Firefox OS, are one thing. Mer, Nemo, Sailfish are another. Debian, Maemo are also a different kettle of fish. |
| 23:17.16 | SylvieLorxu | Why are you grouping Firefox OS with Android and Replicant? |
| 23:17.31 | SylvieLorxu | Also, I don't get your point |
| 23:19.35 | Oksana | Firefox OS is Android-based, with Android core I mean; it has the same adb command-line, too. |
| 23:22.41 | SylvieLorxu | I didn't know it was Android-based, but it always felt Android-like to me :P |
| 23:22.53 | SylvieLorxu | And not in a good sense, it's so ugly ;-; |
| 23:23.32 | MonkeyofDoom | broadly, the only important thing for what's possible with your phone is which userspaces are compatible with the kernels it can run |
| 23:24.10 | Oksana | The worst part, when the SD card _and_ internal filesystem got corrupted, there was no fsck at hand - for vfat, at least. |
| 23:24.22 | MonkeyofDoom | if you can run an upstream Linux kernel on something (with full hardware support), you can almost always get Android or any other phone distro to work on there fine |
| 23:25.27 | MonkeyofDoom | in addition to the obvious systemd+glibc GNU/Linux setup being an option |
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