| 00:00.48 | scourge | FIQ: where do updaes get published? |
| 00:09.25 | mordac | I have previously seen the updates on neo900.org |
| 00:13.19 | dos1 | scourge: neo900.org, RSS channel, mail newsletter, facebook/google+ profiles and tmo thread |
| 00:15.37 | dos1 | FIQ: yep, I noticed that... and in fact it was one of the incentives to get this thing finally done ;) |
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| 00:25.51 | FIQ | dos1: cool :) |
| 00:42.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | will take a while to comment the draft |
| 00:48.31 | dos1 | btw, I'll have to check if sending mails works correctly from new server, I completely forgot about that when migrating |
| 01:03.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: blackphone, Cebit |
| 01:04.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | and maybe even a short note about twinklephone which is supporting ZRTP but when running on a *really* secure phone doesn't offer the endpoint vulnerabilities Snowden mentioned as weakest point of all encryption |
| 01:07.32 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer05: what about that blackphone? |
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| 01:09.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | that blackphone is using a one-chip-system afaik, like jolla |
| 01:10.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | and any other recent android phone |
| 01:10.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | yet to verify, I have no first hand info on that detail |
| 01:11.04 | dos1 | hmm, yeah, could be good to point out when it's verified |
| 01:11.59 | dos1 | but I don't know anything more about blackphone than what I learned during past few minutes from browsing their site |
| 01:12.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway security been *the* topic on Cebit, nfc why ;-P |
| 01:13.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | and yeah, that blackphone site is pretty closed |
| 01:13.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | almost hostile |
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| 01:14.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | signing up to their forum takes a spanish course to find the right buttons to click |
| 01:16.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway a general rule: cheap new powerful hardware uses compromises like shared RAM, otherwise they couldn't do smartphones for 150$ |
| 01:16.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | Neo900 has a dedicated modem that's totally sandboxed and can't access the main system. Of course this comes with some cost |
| 01:17.09 | dos1 | well, it's $629 |
| 01:17.23 | dos1 | so it's rather closer to neo900 price than $150 |
| 01:17.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know zilch about blackphone, only second hand info |
| 01:18.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | last time I visited their site, they had no info at all, not even price |
| 01:18.57 | dos1 | so it got better, but still nothing about used chipsets etc. |
| 01:19.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | I heard about blackfone from a guy who is interested in proper safe encrypted phones. He knew they wanna showcase it in Barcelona(?) |
| 01:20.18 | dos1 | but well, it's clearly a sales page after all, it's supposed to sell, not to inform about anything that could seed a doubt in your head ;) |
| 01:20.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
| 01:21.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder whether Zimmerman had a word in that business model |
| 01:34.28 | dos1 | ok, time for some sleep |
| 01:34.29 | dos1 | gn! |
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| 12:17.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | waiting eagerly for dos1's next newsletter :-) |
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| 15:23.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekend! :) \o/ |
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| 15:52.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | thedead1440: moin! |
| 16:06.49 | mvaenskae | weekend? right, the time i can work in peace on the problems that accumulated throughout the week ^^ |
| 16:08.27 | sixwheeledbeast | don't be so happy, some of us have to work ;) |
| 16:08.52 | mvaenskae | sixwheeledbeast: want to help me out on my assignments? ;) |
| 16:11.31 | sixwheeledbeast | mvaenskae: Want to help me, a field engineer having to work with an injured writing hand. |
| 16:12.27 | mvaenskae | ouch, how did that happen? |
| 16:13.59 | sixwheeledbeast | stubbed my thumb badly, thumb and wrist have swollen, no sympathy from the boss as wasn't in works time. |
| 16:15.25 | sixwheeledbeast | amazing how legible my left hand writing is becoming. |
| 16:16.15 | mvaenskae | hope the hand gets well soon |
| 16:17.54 | sixwheeledbeast | thx, good luck with your assignments. |
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| 16:46.00 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer51: morning :) hope you are doing ok |
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| 17:16.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: as good as it gets ;-) |
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| 17:34.51 | kolp__ | DocScrutinizer05: thanks for the update the other day, I read it later in the logs. Also, congrats on the UG |
| 17:37.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | kolp__: dos1 will come up with a proper really nice (imho) update newsletter RSN |
| 17:38.47 | kolp__ | yes, saw that in the logs, too. Can't wait... ;) |
| 17:49.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | two random notes: recent reserch shows that a product gains much of its attractiveness from haptic properties. I will take special care on every haptic detail we have control over, like button click feeling etc |
| 17:50.19 | ds2 | can it get hot to gently alert the user ? |
| 17:50.21 | ds2 | :) |
| 17:50.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | and obviously we should do a "special lowest price" week, even when that doesn't mean a thing ;-) |
| 17:50.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ds2: that's easy, just run CPU in a busy loop |
| 17:50.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 17:51.43 | ds2 | but but u are using an ARM...those things don't get hot ;) |
| 17:52.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, will need a little help from other subsystems like modem etc |
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| 18:27.12 | mvaenskae | wow... i didn't expect my code to work Ö.ö |
| 18:27.25 | mvaenskae | it looks so ugly, it's functional |
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| 18:43.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: how's life? :-) |
| 18:54.12 | scourge | hello all |
| 18:54.27 | scourge | had to look up haptic |
| 18:55.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | umm, my spellchecker didn't know it either, but my de<->en dict thought it exists |
| 18:56.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | on unrelated topic: |
| 18:56.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>The device accommodates a wide range of input sources from USB, wall adapter, to car battery. The device |
| 18:56.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | provides automatic power path selection to supply the system (SYS) from input source (VBUS), battery (BAT), or |
| 18:56.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | both. |
| 18:57.32 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer05: good, thanks, and yours? :) |
| 18:57.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | weeeeeeekend! |
| 18:57.54 | dos1 | \o/ |
| 18:58.04 | dos1 | and Pi day ;D |
| 18:58.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | attached a "Neo900 UG" label to my letterbox today |
| 18:58.42 | kolp__ | what's the ug's role, btw? |
| 18:58.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's like an UK Ltd |
| 18:59.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | and will be new head organization leading the Neo900 project |
| 18:59.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | a whole company exclusively made for *you* |
| 18:59.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 19:00.08 | scourge | weekend!! .... too bad i'm so shattered i can't get up |
| 19:01.04 | scourge | anyone want to give their opinion on project ara? |
| 19:01.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | kolp__: basicaly it's just about best common practice, I can't handle that on my private bank account |
| 19:01.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | obviously |
| 19:01.47 | kolp__ | right, makes sense |
| 19:02.16 | scourge | everything should be done in a UG/ltd. that's what adam smith would have wanted |
| 19:04.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: how are the chances you'll send a newsletter today? |
| 19:05.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: Friday is a good day for newsletters ;-) |
| 19:05.18 | dos1 | that's the plan, so I'd say quite big ;) |
| 19:05.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
| 19:06.00 | mordac | this is a good cure for my current bout of influenza |
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| 19:55.31 | scourge | this is interesting |
| 19:55.37 | scourge | http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/akarel-android-and-arduino-hardware-platform |
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| 21:29.03 | dos1 | http://neo900.org/news-0009-progress-update-march :) |
| 21:30.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
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| 22:22.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | mmpf, 2 "preorders" vanished, back to 340. Yesterday I think it been 342 |
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