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| 02:22.25 | sparkles_ | What OS are people using on their N900s while they wait patiently for the neo900 boards to be fabricated? |
| 02:34.17 | Zero_Chaos | pwnie express version of meego/debian |
| 06:31.50 | ilon | DocScrutinizer05: as long as you can turn them off (the leds on the spacer frame), since even one indicator led is rather bright at night, wouldnt want a UFO ready for take off on the table next to bed :P |
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| 10:06.14 | merlin1991 | hm the 4 spare leds could be used to display signal strength or any kind of 1 to 4 bar if they are close enough to each other |
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| 16:49.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | RGB? |
| 16:50.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | and for a always-on gauge it seems LED are suboptimal either way |
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| 16:53.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd rather make such 4-bar signal strength display a 2-color orange/blue flashing: 0%blue+100%orange 25%blue+75%orange 50%blue+50%orange 75%blue+25%orange |
| 16:54.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | percent of time |
| 16:55.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | after all that's what the lp5523 engines are made for ;-) |
| 16:56.07 | mvaenskae | DocScrutinizer05: does the SoC used in the neo900 some sort of hyperthreading/pipelining? from what i understand it's a single-core, right? |
| 16:56.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | and operating 4 LED continuously costs you ~20mA |
| 16:56.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a cortex-A8 |
| 16:57.11 | mvaenskae | again i accidently a sentence?! i have a severe case of monday :( |
| 16:57.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | an ARM risc processor with single core but massive pipelining |
| 16:58.13 | mvaenskae | i have no idea what an cortex-a8 has internally :) i would guess it has a v8 engine but that's not really true now, is it? ;) |
| 16:58.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | v7 iirc |
| 16:59.03 | mvaenskae | oh, so it is like the raspberry pi? |
| 16:59.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.ti.com/product/dm3730 |
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| 17:01.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/cortex-a8.php |
| 17:02.50 | mvaenskae | thanks :) i will be reading up on them in a moment |
| 17:03.27 | mvaenskae | btw, about a week or two ago someone mentioned a possible stash of n900s. was the offer legit? |
| 17:03.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | no follow-up on that one so far :-/ |
| 17:05.41 | mvaenskae | hm, that is surely a limiting factor for potential buyers if they don't have the rest of the device :/ |
| 17:06.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | hm? we plan to offer complete devices, didn't you notice? |
| 17:06.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://neo900.org/#about |
| 17:07.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a pita for me tou source all the mech parts |
| 17:07.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | to* |
| 17:07.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://neo900.org/faq#complete |
| 17:07.51 | mvaenskae | oh, you do have enough devices to build all from scratch? i assumed ressources were scarce and not everyone could order a complete device |
| 17:10.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | for now we have no resources at all, we are about to source mech parts or complete (defective) devices. We hope to be able to source a case and display and stuff for every customer who wants to buy the complete device |
| 17:11.16 | dos1 | mvaenskae: it's much better than raspberry pi |
| 17:11.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | for most components there's a virtually unlimited supply of spare parts |
| 17:11.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | a small number of components is tricky to source |
| 17:12.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | but we're optimistic we will manage all that |
| 17:12.27 | mvaenskae | DocScrutinizer05: does that include the light diffuser for the keyboard? it seems mine is broken as the keys light up unevenly :/ |
| 17:13.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | the light spreader is integrated into domesheet. Hard to figure how it could break |
| 17:13.03 | mvaenskae | i am playing more around with my n900 lately to find ideas for the motherboard and justify an order :) |
| 17:13.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway domesheet is one of the difficult-to-source components |
| 17:13.23 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer05: (we need a new newsletter) :nod:, I'll try to write it this evening |
| 17:13.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 17:14.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | mvaenskae: maybe a few of your 6 kbd backlight LEDs are broken? |
| 17:14.06 | mvaenskae | dos1: oh, thinking of the march again of it, it was armv6j, not armv7; v7 belongs to the current smartphone gen :) |
| 17:14.39 | mvaenskae | DocScrutinizer05: that could also be, are those lights part of the motherboard one could buy? :) |
| 17:14.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 17:15.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | they are even part of the LED stuff I elaborated on in last ~50 lines |
| 17:15.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | you'll get RGB kbd backlight |
| 17:16.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-03-02 17:29:19] <DocScrutinizer05> I found a controller that does kathode side |
| 17:16.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-03-02 17:30:01] <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.ti.com/product/lp55281 |
| 17:16.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-03-02 17:30:23] <DocScrutinizer05> so RGB kbd backlight is secured |
| 17:16.56 | mvaenskae | wow, that is pretty nice |
| 17:17.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) glad you like it |
| 17:17.52 | mvaenskae | btw, are you offering replacements for the front "glass" which remove the nokia logo and add the neo900 logo there? ;) |
| 17:17.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | but all that heavily depends on us sourcing domesheets or finding an alternative solution for kbd |
| 17:18.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, can't be done. sorry |
| 17:19.08 | mvaenskae | shame, but i can understand as otherwise you'd need to finance that as well :) |
| 17:19.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | the "N900" printing is embedded into digitizer and can't get removed |
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| 20:00.32 | Mentalysion | Hi, I'm really interested in neo900. When will the motherboard replacement available? |
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| 20:58.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm, too impatient |
| 20:58.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe found the answer on neo900.org |
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