IRC log for #neo900 on 20131224

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07:47.42andrew______Hi all. I want to take part in neo900 Phase 5. But I am not in EU, is there any way? p.s. russia
07:55.57DocScrutinizer05andrew______: we have some countries that we can't (or don't know how to) ship goods to (yet). And some countries are not supported by the credit card validation service the webshop is using. So you *could* donate no matter which country is your home location, given you use money transfer (_not_ credit card) and you select e.g. Switzerland as your home country in the webshop order form. However please NOTE that maybe we CANNOT ship a
07:55.58DocScrutinizer05device to your location. E.G shipment to Russia is a nightmare with customs and also parcel services refuse to deliver to private address, only corporate address will be accepted by UPS etc
07:58.27DocScrutinizer05hmmm
08:00.01DocScrutinizer05s/we have/there are/
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11:05.59DocScrutinizer05wow, we still see 1 "preorder" per day, on average
11:06.59DocScrutinizer05we just crossed the 250 equator
11:24.37DocScrutinizer05OMG I just inspected in detail (with a mag glass) the microphone mech design. *BURP*
11:26.06DocScrutinizer05they actually have a chamber and a "transmission line" and even a gauze (fine fabric 'sieve') there
11:26.19DocScrutinizer05half of that built into kbd frame
11:37.15ShadowJKi was peering through tje holes with n900 cam in macro mode and noticed it wasnt just mic on pcb in hole
12:03.57obesdlol whats the  connection between the mic and keyboard ?
12:17.05DocScrutinizer05the mic sits on PCB nect to enter/cursor-right key. It has a "hood" aka chamber formed by the kbd frame. This chamber has a pipe aka transmission line connecting to another pipe in the lover half of case plastic shell
12:17.28DocScrutinizer05this pipe ends in the small hole left of AV receptacle
12:18.44DocScrutinizer05on the connection between kbd frame pipe and case shell pipe there is a small fine "sieve"
12:20.30obesdinteresting
12:20.48obesdnone of this is designed so the mic can "listen" in on the keyboard more accurately is it ?
12:21.28DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20131224_001.jpg chamber (center, rectangular)  and transmission line (left upper small squircle hole)
12:24.14DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20131224_004.jpg entry of lower end of TL
12:24.27DocScrutinizer05(with gauze)
12:25.31obesdhmm
12:25.32obesdthanks
12:25.51DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20131224_005.jpg other angle
12:26.28DocScrutinizer05the hole is NOT the huge clearly visible screw hole
12:26.51obesdah yes, so the hole is covered by that gauze wire i assume ?
12:26.55DocScrutinizer05but the barely visible one between that screw hole and body outer side
12:27.01DocScrutinizer05yes
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12:49.48DocScrutinizer05http://projects.goldelico.com/p/neo900/issues/541/  who asked for green kbd backlight? ;-)
12:50.16DocScrutinizer05http://rohmfs.rohm.com/en/products/databook/datasheet/opto/led/chip_multi/msl0201rgb.pdf
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16:26.31sixwheeledbeastI just spotted the Neo900 will have a Micro-AB port. Does this mean the donor N900's casing will have to be modified slightly?
16:29.22DocScrutinizer05yes
16:29.42DocScrutinizer05see feasibility study which clearly states that
16:30.53DocScrutinizer05we might ship a convenient tool together with the swap board aka GTA04-NeoN, to do that "modification"
16:31.32DocScrutinizer05a file of some sorts
16:36.06sixwheeledbeastI see. Just found the .pdf will have a read through now thanks.
16:40.59DocScrutinizer05yw :-)
17:25.12sixwheeledbeasthmm interesting. so there maybe a <3mm spacer required to fit everything in.
17:25.41sixwheeledbeastSo suppose the main issues are still domesheet and display connecter?
19:20.50DocScrutinizer05we might have a solution for display conn
19:21.22DocScrutinizer05for domesheet backlight is the issue, the kbd itself is a nobrainer
19:21.48DocScrutinizer05or rather: for kbd we need domesheet to allow backlight
19:24.12DocScrutinizer05252 \o/

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