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| 16:32.47 | Crnkoj | hey guys does anyone here use a nokia bh-221 headset with his N9 ? |
| 17:11.52 | ptl | I use a BH-505 and it sucks |
| 17:12.00 | ptl | never charges completely, never stays charged |
| 17:17.49 | thingie | i'd like to have a bt headset that doesn't suck |
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| 17:20.34 | thingie | i have bh-214 and i hate using it, constantly dropping out, bad audio quality |
| 17:21.51 | Frye | HAve any of you guys suffered form mail client sync issues? |
| 17:21.59 | jonni | BH-905i is good, but 300$ is a bit expensive. http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-BH-905i-Bluetooth-Headset-Black/dp/B0047N121W |
| 17:22.09 | Frye | On occasion my mail accounts other than mail for exchange just stop working |
| 17:22.20 | Frye | they don't sync at all. Not even manually |
| 17:22.48 | Frye | And this also prevents the exchange account to not update the overview page |
| 17:43.07 | Crnkoj | hmm guys |
| 17:43.11 | Crnkoj | i have the bh-221 it works nice |
| 17:43.18 | Crnkoj | but i cant get that damn pbap to work |
| 17:43.35 | Crnkoj | i tested teh headset with android devices and pbab works like a dream |
| 17:43.43 | Crnkoj | the n9 apparently should support pbab as well |
| 17:43.55 | Crnkoj | even obexd is being launched with the pbap plugin |
| 17:44.13 | Crnkoj | but when i connect the two (be it nfc or manually through bt) i cant get names to show up on calls |
| 17:44.23 | Crnkoj | and if i go under bt and check device it doesnt say it supports pbap |
| 17:44.32 | Crnkoj | for the bh-221 on the n9 that is |
| 18:14.02 | jonni | it lists protocols what the headset supports, that doesnt mean that N9 supports them, its just informative view. |
| 18:16.48 | Crnkoj | jonni ye, but both are supposed to support it (and the headset for surely supports it, becasue i tested it on otehr phones and it works) |
| 18:17.30 | jonni | not really, N9 only supports limited amount of profiles, and afaik pbap is not in the supported list. Or can you point to N9 documentation where it states that its supported?= |
| 18:18.10 | Crnkoj | erm |
| 18:18.11 | Crnkoj | if you check |
| 18:18.26 | Crnkoj | ps aux | grep obexd it outputs pbap as profile as well |
| 18:18.44 | Crnkoj | i have foudn this here too |
| 18:18.45 | Crnkoj | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3942 |
| 18:18.59 | Crnkoj | post #10, probably it might be this issue |
| 18:19.53 | Crnkoj | since i have all my contacts synced thorugh MfE |
| 18:21.04 | Crnkoj | jonni is there something like a bluez command that i can run from teh terminal (i cant seem to find anything on it using find or checking teh usual locations) |
| 18:21.05 | jonni | N9 supports A2DP, AVRCP, FTP, HFP, HSP, OPP so sorry pbap is not in supported list, if obexd reports it then its untested and most likely not working. |
| 18:21.44 | Crnkoj | oh well |
| 18:22.19 | jonni | you can ofcourse compile your own custom version on bluez and try to fix it yourself, just like someone compiled custom version of Bluez HID |
| 18:22.29 | Crnkoj | hmm i see |
| 18:22.41 | Crnkoj | i sadly dont have the knowledge or time to do that |
| 18:23.33 | Crnkoj | well but in the link i gave, people on n950 got pbap to work on certain car handsfrees |
| 18:25.28 | jonni | which post number is that, I can only see that someone hacked it working on n900, but always gives errors on n950 |
| 18:25.59 | Crnkoj | let me look for it, i was checking that thread a few days ago |
| 18:26.24 | Crnkoj | N9 seems to be capable of PBAP, but when I connect to my carkit contacts are not transferred correctly... |
| 18:26.24 | Crnkoj | Just a few, seemingly random, contacts are transferred and even those are a mess...For some contacts no number is shown at all, for some contacts the very same number is shown twice or even three times! |
| 18:26.30 | Crnkoj | post n5 |
| 18:26.34 | Crnkoj | #5 |
| 18:27.02 | jonni | that states random mess, for my eyes its not working implementation |
| 18:27.09 | Crnkoj | ye |
| 18:28.08 | Crnkoj | jonni than post #15 talks about it working on a n950 with a garmin device |
| 18:30.24 | Crnkoj | adn if you check post #24 it says ('40:98:4E:0D:62:95', 15, 'Phonebook Access server'), |
| 18:30.41 | jonni | currently there are like 0 persons working on bluetooth, so if your not fixing it, then most likely nobody is. and that garmin device could be syncing over OPP protocol. |
| 18:31.08 | Crnkoj | ah |
| 18:31.19 | Crnkoj | yes i udnerstand, i hoped somone had palyed with it already |
| 18:32.26 | Crnkoj | oh i can try this i guess http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10 |
| 18:32.27 | jonni | older carkits use OPP and those might work ok with N9. |
| 18:32.33 | Crnkoj | comment nuber 7 |
| 18:32.36 | Crnkoj | number |
| 18:32.39 | Crnkoj | ill try that and see what goes |
| 18:33.31 | Crnkoj | if you read comment number 17 |
| 18:33.40 | Crnkoj | however Nokia N9 supports PBAP profile and SyncML protocol for |
| 18:33.41 | Crnkoj | contacts synchronization between phone and carkit. |
| 18:33.45 | Crnkoj | from anokia guy |
| 18:37.13 | jonni | ohwell, quess successrate varies depending on carkit and on device, if it works for you then your lucky, and if it doesnt, then your just out of luck. |
| 18:37.27 | Crnkoj | yes but i have a nokia made bt headset |
| 18:37.28 | Crnkoj | ... |
| 18:37.33 | Crnkoj | how stupid is that it doesnt work =/ |
| 18:37.43 | Crnkoj | it even has nfc to work with the n9 ... |
| 18:37.46 | jonni | yes, multiple nokia devices are not nompatible with eachother |
| 18:38.02 | jonni | like my old nokia carkit didnt work with N9 :) |
| 18:38.10 | Crnkoj | yeh |
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| 18:38.33 | Crnkoj | i dont understand really, it works with android and probably the n9 works with other pbap headsets |
| 18:39.04 | Crnkoj | is there like some support page or something from nokia wher i can send them an email about it? i already tried posting on the nokia forums but noone even responded ... |
| 18:39.09 | jonni | most likely they just didnt have time to fix PBAP and HID, thats why they left them out of the device. |
| 18:39.09 | Crnkoj | and the bugtracker is no more |
| 18:39.16 | Crnkoj | ah |
| 18:39.26 | Crnkoj | but pepole there said after pr 1.2 it started working for most of them |
| 18:39.40 | Crnkoj | and im running pr 1.3 now (except if 1.3 broke it again...) |
| 18:40.08 | jonni | that nokia forum link if the official bug reporting one. But all the bugs that are not crashing thousands of devices are ignored :) |
| 18:40.16 | Crnkoj | ye |
| 18:40.32 | Crnkoj | i mean is there like some email support or such or online support? i know motorola has such things |
| 18:41.01 | jonni | there is commercial support that you pay yearly fee for :) |
| 18:41.18 | Crnkoj | haha |
| 18:41.22 | jonni | few thousand euroes per year :) |
| 18:41.24 | Crnkoj | shitty nokia |
| 18:41.33 | Crnkoj | even motorola has support chat |
| 18:42.04 | Crnkoj | hmm |
| 18:42.07 | Crnkoj | ill try that hcidump |
| 18:42.15 | Crnkoj | what happens when i connect the headset |
| 18:42.28 | Crnkoj | i wonder |
| 18:42.30 | jonni | ofcourse there are support emails where you can post. and hcidump logs should give you hints where it fails |
| 18:42.36 | Crnkoj | if iw oudl go to a local nokia care point/repair center |
| 18:42.47 | Crnkoj | you think they might be of any use? |
| 18:43.05 | Crnkoj | i mean the nokia guys tehre |
| 18:43.16 | jonni | well as PBAP is not listed as supported feature, you cannot complain it for not working :) |
| 18:43.42 | Crnkoj | hmm |
| 18:43.47 | Crnkoj | thats true |
| 18:43.54 | jonni | if your A2DP headphone would be failing then they might react :) |
| 18:43.58 | Crnkoj | hah |
| 18:44.15 | Crnkoj | but i believe on the spec sheet for the headset it says its fully compatible with teh n9 |
| 18:44.20 | Crnkoj | and not supporting pbab is not fully compatible |
| 18:44.52 | jonni | you can always ask if there are firmware upgrades avail for the headset :) |
| 18:45.08 | Crnkoj | ye |
| 18:45.14 | Crnkoj | i was thinkign that way too |
| 18:46.02 | jonni | are you already on PR1.3, that might have newer bluez&obex too |
| 18:46.12 | Crnkoj | yes i am |
| 18:46.16 | Crnkoj | sadly |
| 18:46.20 | Crnkoj | probably that bluez wont work |
| 18:46.21 | Crnkoj | that is there |
| 18:46.24 | Crnkoj | hcidump |
| 18:47.18 | Crnkoj | i jsut have hcitool adn hciconfig |
| 18:47.21 | Crnkoj | installed now |
| 18:49.37 | Crnkoj | eh if i do hcitool info hci0 (thats the headset) i get IO error lol |
| 18:49.41 | Crnkoj | cant create connection |
| 18:57.21 | Crnkoj | hmm it is very weird |
| 18:57.28 | Crnkoj | apparently i cannot acces this device at all |
| 18:57.31 | Crnkoj | eventhough its connected |
| 18:58.29 | Crnkoj | tells me permission denied |
| 18:58.31 | Crnkoj | oh well |
| 19:23.51 | Crnkoj | thanks for your time jonni, cya |
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