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16:19.46itsnotabigtruck*man* this channel is dead :'(
16:20.40azeemwhy?
16:20.49kozziBetalabs released map plugin for Gallery
16:20.51azeembtw, I think I got time-to-destination working in Drive
16:21.36kozzioh wait its released long ago
16:23.56itsnotabigtruckazeem: it's dead b/c there isn't much conversation
16:24.11itsnotabigtruckyeah, there hasn't been much betalabs stuff for the n9
16:25.03kozzinew N9 64GB for 319e
16:25.28itsnotabigtruckthere's the photo map plugin, city scene, public transport (the newest), and pulse
16:25.49itsnotabigtruckpublic transport doesn't have enough coverage if you don't live in a globally known city
16:25.58itsnotabigtrucknyc, london, paris, etc.
16:26.04kozzithe pboto map plugin is quite ugly
16:26.05itsnotabigtruckpulse is apparently a battery killer
16:27.42kozzioh well Im glad that they release them
16:27.49kozzibetter than nothing
16:27.56itsnotabigtruckthat's true
16:28.34itsnotabigtruckit's a little disappointing compared to the amount of stuff they've released over the years for various iterations of symbian, but on the other hand they don't *have* to make those extra apps, and they generally certainly aren't very profitable
16:28.51itsnotabigtruckmeaning that beta labs is probably going to go the way of the dodo with the "new nokia"
16:29.28azeemhrm, it has Berlin
16:30.06kozziBetalabs used to be a great place for exciting stuffs
16:30.28kozzinowadays...not much even those for symbian or wp
16:31.35kozziyesterday I was told to add Thai language to a Nokia phone
16:32.09kozzifirst thing I though was flashing, until I received the phone and it was wp
16:33.21kozzikind of funny that it doesnt support it at all
16:34.01kozzieven the web browser and the support comes with wp7.8
16:34.07kozziyet there is
16:34.20kozzimany thai apps in the market
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16:35.11azeemhow do you install those betalabs, I guess they are not in the ovi store?
16:35.22itsnotabigtruckazeem: no, you have to download the deb and install it directly
16:35.25azeemdirectly via web?
16:35.40itsnotabigtruckyou need to have the settings tweaked insofar that you can do that
16:35.50azeemk
16:37.14kozziitsnotabigtruck: my sister with her friend's lumia
16:37.49kozzithey didnt know what the different between nokia phones
16:37.57kozziexcept colors
16:39.01kozziazeem, you need an account and subscribe to 4try" to project
16:39.10azeem4try?
16:39.17kozzito = a
16:39.23kozzi"try"
16:39.26azeemanyway, it's installing right now
16:40.25kozziI have noticed that with vkb, I rarely bother to fix typos
16:40.52azeem"we add new cities daily"
16:42.20kozziand N9 web browser tend to throw the text input mark randomly so words are misplaced
16:42.31kozzikind of annoying
16:42.32azeembut yeah, public transport is really neat
16:42.54azeemin case I make it to Berlin
16:50.07azeemhuh, they pulled city scene from the Nokia store?
16:55.26azeemoh, but comments seem to work again in the store
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18:00.20ToAruShiroiNekoso what was improved in the n9?
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18:01.45itsnotabigtruckToAruShiroiNeko: you mean, in the pr1.3 firmware update?
18:08.30ToAruShiroiNekoyeah
18:08.43ToAruShiroiNekothe "1000s of fixes" isnt explanatory :p
18:09.17itsnotabigtruckToAruShiroiNeko: lol
18:09.25itsnotabigtruckwell, there's a thread on tmo with changes people have noticed
18:09.38itsnotabigtruckjust minor bug fixes and stuff, and i highly doubt thousands of them
18:09.46itsnotabigtruckthat and they locked down against the old version of inception
18:09.48ToAruShiroiNekoright but thats not official :/
18:10.01itsnotabigtruckwell, there is no official changelog that they've released besides that
18:10.11itsnotabigtruckit's possible to look at changelogs for individual packages, most of the time
18:10.12ToAruShiroiNekoah
18:10.17ToAruShiroiNekonot yet huh :)
18:10.19itsnotabigtruckbut that probably isn't what you're thinking of
18:10.27itsnotabigtruckfor one they're pretty cryptic
18:10.36ToAruShiroiNekoprobably due to the security bugs
18:10.49itsnotabigtruckthere's no reason not to upgrade, unless you want to use opptimizer
18:10.49ToAruShiroiNekothey want to give people time to update before revealing the vunerabilities
18:10.49azeemthere is http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/07/11/nokia-n9-software-update-pr1-3/
18:11.02ToAruShiroiNekoI updated already
18:11.03azeemitsnotabigtruck: how do you get the changelogs without having the source?
18:11.08azeemI thought docpurge removed them
18:11.09ToAruShiroiNekoaside from GPS I did not notice a change
18:11.11itsnotabigtruckazeem: the changelog is embedded in the deb package
18:11.20azeemhrm, right
18:11.25itsnotabigtruckthey're purged during the install, not when the package is built
18:11.40itsnotabigtruckso that means the changelogs aren't left over on the n9, you have to get the actual deb file and tear it apart
18:11.56ToAruShiroiNekoyou are tearing me apart
18:12.13itsnotabigtrucklol
18:12.29ToAruShiroiNekohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plz-bhcHryc
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