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| 09:50.04 | Jonne_ | according to twitter ff 13 should now install |
| 09:51.15 | Jonne_ | nope, still fails |
| 09:53.16 | sakkemo | how big is the file, any idea? |
| 09:53.58 | sakkemo | 25.4 MB |
| 09:54.33 | sakkemo | Jonne_: doesn't work for me either |
| 09:55.00 | Jonne_ | /var/cache/apt/archives/partial # ls -s |
| 09:55.00 | Jonne_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:58.59 | b00^wk | itsnotabigtruck, hello, you not here ? |
| 09:58.59 | b00^wk | :) |
| 10:02.20 | Jonne_ | i guess they have different mirrors by country |
| 10:02.30 | Jonne_ | it's probably still propagating |
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| 10:16.58 | liar | hi, is there a way to disable sms receipt confirmations on the nokia n9? i couldn't find an option for that... (in austria one does get charged for sms receipt confirmations) |
| 10:17.29 | b00^wk | liar, ouch .. |
| 10:17.59 | b00^wk | but sorry have not such option working here by default at least - i get no confirmations |
| 10:18.00 | liar | that means no? |
| 10:18.23 | b00^wk | liar, idon't know |
| 10:19.03 | sakkemo | b00^wk: you do, the phone just adds them to the conversation view and does not show them explicitly |
| 10:19.18 | sakkemo | to each message at the bottom |
| 10:19.27 | liar | yeah |
| 10:19.32 | b00^wk | yea ? |
| 10:19.38 | b00^wk | well, you learn everyday something |
| 10:21.58 | liar | sakkemo: do you know if it can be disabled? |
| 10:22.41 | sakkemo | liar: Does anyone know how to disable SMS Delivery reports on this phone? |
| 10:22.42 | sakkemo | Telstra just dicked me $15 for "Mobile Enhanced SMS"... |
| 10:22.44 | sakkemo | EDIT: Found it. Under "Installations" > Messages for some reason. |
| 10:22.57 | sakkemo | source: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1812985&p=41&#r801 |
| 10:23.43 | liar | thanks |
| 10:23.58 | sakkemo | it's Applications actually I think |
| 10:24.04 | sakkemo | Applications -> Messages |
| 10:27.13 | b00^wk | hehe, i had this disabled by default |
| 10:27.24 | b00^wk | don't know why / how you guys had that enabled from factory |
| 10:28.21 | sakkemo | it might be country/zone-dependant |
| 10:28.32 | b00^wk | ok |
| 10:28.33 | sakkemo | I had it on in Finland but they're free here |
| 10:28.47 | sakkemo | could be a problem when roaming though |
| 10:28.51 | b00^wk | wow Finland - the home land of Nokia .... |
| 10:32.04 | sakkemo | I should finally have to time to play with the phone this week |
| 10:32.16 | sakkemo | too much school and other projects during the whole winter/spring |
| 10:32.29 | sakkemo | my phone is completely vanilla |
| 10:34.00 | sakkemo | liar: please note that you need to disable the confirmations separately for MMS messages (in the same page lower) |
| 10:59.50 | liar | sakkemo: i did recognize that, thanks |
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| 12:35.03 | Jonne_ | http://t.co/rAaC35MY -> this is the deb for firefox 13 (hosted on nokia's server) |
| 12:35.44 | Jonne_ | worked fine for me |
| 12:35.58 | petteri | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.05 | Jonne_ | don't see any difference |
| 12:36.21 | petteri | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:40.07 | sledges | hello |
| 12:40.30 | sledges | FireFox 13 update has just kicked in, but fails downloading it :( |
| 12:43.56 | petteri | so it seems |
| 12:44.39 | sledges | how tease/tempting!! :) |
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| 12:45.41 | khertan | Hi ! |
| 12:46.48 | sledges | hello khertan ! |
| 12:47.31 | khertan | hello sledges |
| 12:48.32 | khertan | [Announce] KhtBMA : Khertan unofficial Battle.net Mobile Authenticator should be available soon on Apps.formeego.com and Nokia Store. For more informations: http://khertan.net/KhtBMA |
| 12:49.50 | sledges | well done, khertan. Keep the N9 flag flying! |
| 12:51.43 | khertan | sledges: thx |
| 12:52.41 | khertan | sledges: but i prefer keeping them in my hand than flying, my n950 already fly too much. In fact the real problem is that it s not flying well and hit the floor a bit hardly |
| 12:52.43 | khertan | ;) |
| 13:06.24 | Jonne_ | sledges, you can get the .deb for firefox 13 here: http://t.co/rAaC35MY |
| 13:06.32 | sledges | :)) I meant the flag, khertan |
| 13:06.37 | sledges | thanks Jonne_ ! |
| 13:06.40 | Jonne_ | they recommend you uninstall 12 before you install 13 |
| 13:06.57 | Jonne_ | you need an ovi account to get to that deb, btw |
| 13:15.19 | sledges | thanks Jonne_ , just downloaded. Thanks for the uninstall-12-first tip; probably that's why it does not update itself automatically.. |
| 13:15.35 | Jonne_ | no, that's a different issue |
| 13:15.57 | Jonne_ | basically the ovi store still sends you fennec 12 when you try to upgrade |
| 13:16.15 | Jonne_ | should get fixed in the next few days, but it's still annoying |
| 13:18.45 | Jonne_ | I guess @selop fired whoever normally handles packaging in the OVI store. I don't remember ever seeing this sort of thing happen before |
| 13:19.32 | sledges | x( |
| 13:20.25 | sledges | that distances us away from PR1.3 if not indefinitely... |
| 13:20.29 | Jonne_ | still happy to see mozilla still supporting this dead platform |
| 13:20.51 | Jonne_ | PR1.3 is probably coming soonish, but since nobody knows what's in it... |
| 13:21.47 | sledges | somebody still believes in killed stuff |
| 13:22.15 | Jonne_ | the only thing i'd really want is skype video, (because that's a clear regression from the n900) but there's no chance this'll come |
| 13:23.03 | sledges | surprise of how it made it to n900 on the first place. Probably Skype did not belong to Micro$oft at that time yet(?).. |
| 13:23.12 | Jonne_ | not yet, no |
| 13:23.18 | sledges | that explains it |
| 13:23.40 | Jonne_ | but the n900 unfortunately couldn't really handle sjype |
| 13:23.45 | Jonne_ | *skype |
| 13:23.53 | Jonne_ | video was a blocky mess |
| 13:24.23 | Jonne_ | the n9 has a better front camera and more CPU, it'd work beautifully |
| 13:24.24 | sledges | just like GTalk [incoming] Video on N9 |
| 13:24.40 | Jonne_ | i don't know anyone that has gtalk, though :/ |
| 13:24.55 | Jonne_ | (of the people i'd normally skype) |
| 13:25.53 | b00^wk | can someone tell me why does N9 has such a crappy mic ? |
| 13:26.03 | b00^wk | i mean, NO one can hear me properly on that phone |
| 13:26.33 | b00^wk | in fact it probably started with earlier Nokia models - i could not hear a friend properly on his NX? phone ... |
| 13:26.38 | Jonne_ | never really had any issue with that, b00^wk |
| 13:26.47 | b00^wk | im highly surprised |
| 13:27.16 | sledges | neither did I, b00^wk |
| 13:27.30 | Jonne_ | are you holding it right? :p |
| 13:27.35 | b00^wk | :D |
| 13:27.44 | b00^wk | yea, i usually put it right close to my bum chicks |
| 13:27.53 | b00^wk | as per manual |
| 13:27.54 | b00^wk | :) |
| 13:28.06 | sledges | mAnn(u)al :D |
| 13:28.15 | b00^wk | :D |
| 13:32.51 | sledges | Jonne_, dpkg -i fennec...deb swears on libpango1.0-0 not installed |
| 13:33.18 | khertan | Jonne_: at least in pr1.3 there is some fixes for nasty qml qt components bugs |
| 13:33.43 | Jonne_ | sledges, apt-get install libpango1.0-0 |
| 13:34.11 | sledges | dog |
| 13:34.16 | sledges | s/dog/doh/ |
| 13:34.24 | Jonne_ | might complain about another package too |
| 13:34.29 | Jonne_ | install that package too |
| 13:35.58 | sledges | only apt-get -f install did the job |
| 13:37.39 | mankeli | so..what's new in fennec? performance improvements? support for external keyboard input? |
| 13:38.20 | Jonne_ | have not found a changelog anywhere |
| 13:38.30 | sledges | haven't got a BT keyboard around.. |
| 13:38.34 | Jonne_ | AFAICT the only thing that changed is the version number :p |
| 13:38.43 | Jonne_ | and user agent |
| 13:38.44 | mankeli | hehe |
| 13:39.24 | mankeli | does n950 keyboard work with fennec btw? |
| 13:43.11 | Jonne_ | don't know |
| 13:47.29 | sledges | mankeli, fennec13 looks like has fixed text input (had drawing issues in text input boxes, e.g. pain in GMail), as well as caret touch-positioning in them |
| 13:48.23 | Jonne_ | where'd you find a changelog, sledges ? |
| 13:48.46 | Jonne_ | or is that just an observation? |
| 14:06.47 | WildyLion | Hey, is there PR1.3 already? o_o |
| 14:10.40 | khertan | mankeli: except double space, yep |
| 14:12.12 | sledges | Jonne_, an observation |
| 14:12.14 | mankeli | khertan: okay. i was wondering if it works or not since it doesn't seem to accept input from bt kbd |
| 14:12.38 | mankeli | and also directional buttons in swipe-keyboard don't have any function |
| 14:12.43 | khertan | mankeli: at least fennec 12 was working didn't try v13 |
| 14:13.06 | mankeli | ok |
| 14:24.12 | b00^wk | no pr1.3 |
| 14:24.17 | b00^wk | say no to new updates |
| 14:24.26 | b00^wk | no to locking |
| 14:24.43 | b00^wk | i want inception to always work, and have root access |
| 14:24.52 | b00^wk | :D |
| 14:25.48 | mankeli | I wish they would say that "since this is eol platform, we release EVERYTHING" |
| 14:26.10 | mankeli | but of course it's not happening in real life :) |
| 14:26.13 | b00^wk | yea, like the nfcd & the stack :/ |
| 14:26.19 | b00^wk | seriously, irritating me |
| 14:27.52 | b00^wk | yea actually good point |
| 14:27.57 | b00^wk | eol - they will never go back to it |
| 14:30.06 | mankeli | most probably it would only benefit them to have a community hacking their stuff, and see that a collective mind invents |
| 14:30.12 | khertan | no they will go forward |
| 14:30.23 | khertan | meltini ... it s just an other wind name ... |
| 14:30.35 | khertan | like in the pure Maemo Tradition |
| 14:31.12 | mankeli | you mean breaking compatibility between every release? |
| 14:31.48 | mankeli | (i have no experience on older maemo phones) |
| 14:32.16 | khertan | there is no compatibility break if apps are well coded with a pure language .... : python |
| 14:32.18 | khertan | haha :) |
| 14:32.42 | b00^wk | just .. open it completely and give all ALL source code |
| 14:33.40 | b00^wk | seriously, with all these windows phones they making now, there is like, 10% chance may be they will make another linux phone |
| 14:35.34 | mankeli | well meegotouch-like ui is already used in some phones |
| 14:35.41 | sledges | khertan, Meltimi that is |
| 14:35.42 | mankeli | and qt git repo has updates mentioning meltemi |
| 14:35.48 | sledges | *Meltemi lolmao |
| 14:36.28 | mankeli | but there's been talks that they might be basing that on s40 instead of linux |
| 14:36.31 | khertan | sledges: indeed |
| 14:36.44 | mankeli | dunno |
| 14:37.27 | sledges | look at pureview... |
| 15:00.00 | Jonne_ | they won't open source it because the minute they decided to drop Linux and go WP7 it became their biggest competitor |
| 15:00.26 | Jonne_ | wouldn't want Samsung or Google getting their hands on some of their stuff |
| 15:01.16 | Jonne_ | Nokia was one of the bigger contributors to webkit and linux, this will probably end now |
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