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| 13:30.53 | sumanah | I just bought a new N9. When I go to manage my applications, I see that various updates are available. But when I hit Update, I get this warning: "to complete updates, conflicting applications need to be uninstalled". How can I find out what these conflicts are? |
| 13:30.54 | sumanah | I tried searching the web and the MeeGo forum for that phrase but turned up nothing useful. |
| 13:38.46 | mgedmin | hm, interesting |
| 13:38.50 | mgedmin | I've never seen that message |
| 13:39.55 | sumanah | I haven't installed any new applications yet, so I'm wondering what could possibly need to be uninstalled |
| 13:40.56 | sumanah | maybe it can tell that I'm in the US and it wants to uninstall the wifi tethering app? In which case I would be unhappy, or at least want to know so that I could go find and reinstall it afterwards. |
| 13:42.05 | sumanah | The upgrades available: User guide 0.3.5+0m7, and then various updates for Real Golf 2011, Nokia Music, NFS Shift, Galaxy on Fire 2, AP Mobile, Angry Birds Free With...., & AccuWeather |
| 13:42.16 | sumanah | er, Angry Birds Free With Magic |
| 13:43.22 | sumanah | I'm running MeeGo 1.2, PR 1.2, 30.2012.07-1_PR_005 |
| 13:44.06 | mgedmin | can you attempt to update the apps one by one? see which one complains? |
| 13:44.47 | sumanah | I started with User Guide and got the message: "Dependency notice: To complete updating User guide, conflicting applications need to be uninstalled" |
| 13:45.12 | sumanah | Same for Galaxy on Fire 2 |
| 13:45.33 | mgedmin | weird |
| 13:45.34 | sumanah | same for Real Golf 2011 |
| 13:45.55 | sumanah | yeah! I remember with the N900 on Maemo, at least it *told* you what dependencies were being dragged along |
| 13:46.07 | mgedmin | I would probably enable developer mode, open up xterm, try to devel-su and then apt-get upgrade, just to see what it would try to remove |
| 13:46.10 | sumanah | I haven't enabled developer mode yet; would that perhaps help me..... |
| 13:46.16 | mgedmin | I would be too chicken to actually try an apt-get upgrade |
| 13:46.18 | sumanah | great minds think alike :) |
| 13:46.33 | sumanah | mgedmin: apt-get? I thought Harmattan used RPMs, maybe I misheard |
| 13:46.43 | mgedmin | Meego is supposed to use RPMs |
| 13:47.01 | mgedmin | Harmattan never made the switch |
| 13:47.04 | sumanah | AHA |
| 13:47.11 | mgedmin | it's more like Maemo 6, in some senses |
| 13:47.12 | sumanah | shows what I know |
| 13:47.22 | sumanah | btw, thanks for the help, mgedmin |
| 13:47.24 | mgedmin | the libraries (Qt and friends) are meego-ish, but the base system is still all maemo |
| 13:48.16 | sumanah | looks up developer.nokia.com docs to ensure she knows what'll happen if she turns on dev mode |
| 13:49.16 | sumanah | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Developing_for_Harmattan_Activating_developer_mode.html , got it |
| 13:49.32 | mgedmin | scratches head |
| 13:50.05 | mgedmin | basically, it installs a bunch of packages such as Terminal, openssh-server (and -client), develsh, ... |
| 13:50.09 | mgedmin | I don't remember the full list |
| 13:50.11 | sumanah | yeah, sounds reasonable |
| 13:50.16 | sumanah | the list is at that page |
| 13:50.24 | mgedmin | you can get root by using 'devel-su' |
| 13:50.28 | mgedmin | password is rootme, iirc |
| 13:50.39 | mgedmin | you can't use sudo, which annoys me a lot |
| 13:50.55 | sumanah | A bit of this I learned from https://lwn.net/Articles/487211/ but it's good to see the canonical reference page |
| 13:50.55 | mgedmin | and root is rather restricted by the security framework (aegis) and, e.g., can't write to files in /home/user |
| 13:51.04 | sumanah | yeah, I heard about how it's not a true root :/ |
| 13:51.10 | mgedmin | but you can run develsh to lift some of those restrictions |
| 13:51.51 | mgedmin | there's an app called Inception that gives you unrestricted root; I haven't tried it yet |
| 13:52.23 | mgedmin | there's also a #harmattan channel that's a bit more alive; mostly people talk about developing stuff for the N9 there, but power user questions are also fine, I think |
| 13:52.45 | sumanah | this is hilarious -- "Dependencies notice: To complete installation of developer-mode, additional applications need to be downloaded and installed. To complete installation of developer-mode, conflicting applications need to be uninstalled. Total size of downloads: 2.5 MB" |
| 13:52.57 | mgedmin | yeah :/ |
| 13:54.05 | sumanah | so, since my real paranoia is that this update will somehow remove an app that currently exists on my phone, I'm just going to somehow take a written inventory of all the apps that are on my n9 right now, and then do the update, and then check my inventory |
| 13:54.21 | mgedmin | nods |
| 13:54.40 | sumanah | and then I will be able to blog about this issue and get ALL the web search results for this phrase |
| 13:54.44 | sumanah | step 3. ???? |
| 13:54.47 | sumanah | step 4. profit |
| 13:56.46 | mgedmin | good luck! |
| 13:56.50 | mgedmin | needs to go |
| 13:56.56 | sumanah | Thanks mgedmin |
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| 14:04.15 | Vanadis | oh hai |
| 14:08.24 | Vanadis | could anyone please give me a hint, where to download the n9 fiasco image? |
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| 14:32.59 | sumanah | BTW, mgedmin it looks like the update didn't remove any *visible* apps (that is, no applications visible from the apps screen). |
| 14:33.11 | sumanah | Weird. Anyway. |
| 15:03.57 | sumanah | mgedmin: http://www.harihareswara.net/sumana/2012/05/17/0 for closure's sake. |
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