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| 21:11.34 | Crnkoj | hey guys i need some help, i managed to break something on my n9 and now its in a boot loop, whats the best way to rescue it without flashing (i woudl actually just have to chmod one file back), or to flash it |
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| 21:15.31 | jonni | Crnkoj: without rdc you cant fix without reflash. |
| 21:15.41 | Crnkoj | jonni rdc ? |
| 21:16.23 | itsnotabigtruck | Crnkoj: research and development certificate |
| 21:16.23 | jonni | R&D certificate which is only avail for nokia internals. |
| 21:16.41 | itsnotabigtruck | i.e. something you don't get to have (and neither do i [:(]) :p |
| 21:16.52 | Crnkoj | ah ok |
| 21:16.53 | Crnkoj | so guys |
| 21:17.07 | Crnkoj | i assume if its stuck in a boot loop i have to use flasher to flash the image |
| 21:17.25 | itsnotabigtruck | there's ways to get your data off, though they aren't easy |
| 21:17.30 | Crnkoj | i ahve a region 001 64gb n9, just reading the flasher readmea now |
| 21:17.30 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, just flasher it |
| 21:17.30 | jonni | with rescure kernel you can copy important data out, but only way to recover is to reflash |
| 21:17.38 | Crnkoj | ye i dont care about teh data |
| 21:17.39 | Crnkoj | nothing is on it |
| 21:17.52 | Crnkoj | im more eager to find out what image files to use |
| 21:17.54 | virtuald | you shouldn't have any important on your phone anyway ;) |
| 21:17.57 | Crnkoj | and what commadn to give to flasher |
| 21:18.01 | Crnkoj | ye i dont |
| 21:18.26 | Crnkoj | i have navifirm |
| 21:19.50 | itsnotabigtruck | Crnkoj: check out my flashing guide |
| 21:20.01 | itsnotabigtruck | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693 |
| 21:20.03 | Crnkoj | itsnotabigtruck maybe got |
| 21:20.05 | Crnkoj | aha thanks |
| 21:20.35 | Crnkoj | cool, im quite used to flashing android phones and doing linux stuff on my pc |
| 21:20.42 | Crnkoj | but the n9 is kinda annoying in these terms =/ |
| 21:24.39 | Crnkoj | itsnotabigtruck hey may i use navifirm 1.0 instead of the 1.7 you link to on your page? i can find the latest pr 1.2 for my model with that one aswell |
| 21:25.12 | itsnotabigtruck | Crnkoj: in order to download the emmc image you need navifirm+ and a fairly recent version |
| 21:25.29 | Crnkoj | ye |
| 21:25.29 | itsnotabigtruck | since you don't need it you can use any variant and any version |
| 21:25.40 | Crnkoj | im downloading the files now |
| 21:25.50 | Crnkoj | what is the name of the eMMC file normally? |
| 21:25.56 | itsnotabigtruck | it has emmc in the nam |
| 21:26.03 | itsnotabigtruck | you'll know it when you see it |
| 21:26.03 | Crnkoj | k let me check |
| 21:26.10 | itsnotabigtruck | but you can only see it if you select nokia care suite for the server |
| 21:26.24 | Crnkoj | aha i guess i need a newer navifirm :) |
| 21:26.39 | itsnotabigtruck | which you'd know about if you read the rest of the steps :/ |
| 21:26.49 | Crnkoj | ye im reading |
| 21:26.53 | Crnkoj | and asking as i come further :) |
| 21:30.50 | Crnkoj | itsnotabigtruck talking about, did you happen to see that "Audio" in teh battery stats is taking insane amounts of battery life while its running in teh background the whole time ? |
| 21:32.59 | itsnotabigtruck | Crnkoj: i haven't looked at that yet |
| 21:33.04 | itsnotabigtruck | i assume you're using energy profiler? |
| 21:33.15 | Crnkoj | no that was with battery usage |
| 21:33.38 | Crnkoj | http://store.ovi.com/content/138659 |
| 21:33.40 | Crnkoj | this thing |
| 21:33.59 | Crnkoj | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24268926/20120316174038.png |
| 21:34.08 | Crnkoj | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24268926/20120316174051.png |
| 21:34.13 | Crnkoj | here two screenshots of it from my phone |
| 21:35.08 | Crnkoj | the audio playback after that i reflashed with the nokia software updater, since i never saw this issue before on pr 1.1 and i thought maybe while OTA upgrading it came to soem bug |
| 21:35.36 | Crnkoj | now it was again there but this time it took 17% of the battery |
| 21:35.45 | Crnkoj | so i was fiddling around and did something too much :D |
| 21:40.17 | jonni | so you didnt listen to any audio? |
| 21:41.19 | Crnkoj | well i made a 15 min call |
| 21:41.30 | Crnkoj | but its saying its running in teh background for the whole uptime of the phone |
| 21:41.41 | Crnkoj | and its apparently taking up 17% of the used battery |
| 21:41.44 | Crnkoj | which seems absurd to me |
| 21:41.52 | Crnkoj | and i never saw that behaviour on pr1.1 |
| 21:41.53 | Crnkoj | =/ |
| 21:41.57 | jonni | battery usage application is a crap since it causes so many false positives |
| 21:42.05 | Crnkoj | ahem |
| 21:42.11 | Crnkoj | good to know |
| 21:42.13 | jonni | better just to see top and see if its eating cpu |
| 21:42.25 | Crnkoj | ye well |
| 21:42.27 | Crnkoj | its not eating cpu |
| 21:42.36 | Crnkoj | but it seems like the cpu doesnt scale the frequency |
| 21:42.44 | Crnkoj | (stays at 1ghz) |
| 21:42.52 | Crnkoj | even if idle |
| 21:43.13 | jonni | atleast on that screenshot the battery usage app was using 7%, so your device runs out of juice much faster |
| 21:43.35 | Crnkoj | ye but it was cause i was looking a lot at it haha |
| 21:43.37 | Crnkoj | at that point |
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| 21:43.47 | Crnkoj | so it was kinda display drain on it |
| 21:44.28 | jonni | RM696-07-1_PR_001:~# cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq |
| 21:44.29 | jonni | 300000 |
| 21:44.35 | itsnotabigtruck | well, pulseaudio can use a pretty sizeable amount of cpu |
| 21:44.39 | jonni | so if you run the same command you always get 1000000? |
| 21:44.48 | Crnkoj | ye jonni that was how i determined it and it was 996 |
| 21:44.51 | itsnotabigtruck | like running milkytracker and playing something, pulseaudio is continually using like 25% |
| 21:45.10 | Crnkoj | 996xxx |
| 21:45.15 | Crnkoj | dont remember the last 3 |
| 21:45.42 | itsnotabigtruck | so 996 megs |
| 21:45.47 | Crnkoj | ye |
| 21:46.14 | Crnkoj | hmm |
| 21:46.20 | Crnkoj | i guess i can just flasht eh first bin |
| 21:46.21 | jonni | that is quite unlikely value coming out that file |
| 21:46.30 | Crnkoj | hmm not really |
| 21:46.48 | Crnkoj | i have a pandaboard (omap4) that gives several frequencies from that file depending ont eh load |
| 21:46.51 | Crnkoj | on the load |
| 21:46.54 | itsnotabigtruck | jonni: why is that? |
| 21:46.56 | Crnkoj | ranging form 350 to 1200 |
| 21:47.14 | Crnkoj | and its not 1200 its more like 1201 or 1197 |
| 21:47.15 | Crnkoj | and so on |
| 21:47.16 | jonni | Crnkoj: can you please run that cat once and paste what it currently gives out? |
| 21:47.25 | Crnkoj | jonni the phone bootloops |
| 21:47.26 | Crnkoj | :) |
| 21:47.35 | Crnkoj | ive messed around with it a bit too much |
| 21:47.44 | Crnkoj | in trying to get the pulseaudio thing to not drain teh battery |
| 21:47.45 | Crnkoj | :D |
| 21:48.15 | jonni | itsnotabigtruck: because of the default multipliers on the governor (afaik 996 is not an option there) :) |
| 21:48.15 | Crnkoj | i was actually aware of the fact that it will probably cause a bootloop haha |
| 21:48.32 | Crnkoj | jonni the clock is made up by the multiplier and the bus speed |
| 21:48.37 | Crnkoj | bus speed can vary minorly |
| 21:48.45 | Crnkoj | depending on the crystals/timers that are used as reference |
| 21:48.57 | Crnkoj | not all n9's are equal haha |
| 21:49.03 | itsnotabigtruck | Crnkoj: maybe he means the multiplier in software, used by cpufreq |
| 21:49.08 | itsnotabigtruck | (dynamic cpu frequency scaling) |
| 21:49.10 | Crnkoj | could be |
| 21:49.11 | Crnkoj | ye |
| 21:49.26 | itsnotabigtruck | also that field is probably reporting the speed the cpu is set to, not the exact current clock speed |
| 21:49.27 | Crnkoj | well i assume(d) thats the 1ghz step but the timers are a bit off |
| 21:49.35 | Crnkoj | nah |
| 21:49.36 | Crnkoj | its the current |
| 21:49.39 | Crnkoj | cur_freq |
| 21:49.50 | itsnotabigtruck | that could still be the current selected frequency |
| 21:49.54 | Crnkoj | the cpuinfo_max_freq would be 100000 |
| 21:49.57 | itsnotabigtruck | not the literal kilocycles per second |
| 21:50.01 | Crnkoj | ah |
| 21:50.03 | Crnkoj | true |
| 21:50.08 | Crnkoj | i just know it form teh omap4 |
| 21:50.13 | Crnkoj | which shows the actual current speed |
| 21:50.16 | Crnkoj | not the selected step |
| 21:50.19 | itsnotabigtruck | oh, then maybe that is the case then |
| 21:50.39 | itsnotabigtruck | it's a built-in linux thing so it should be the same from cpu to cpy |
| 21:50.40 | Crnkoj | but omap4 is quite more sophisticated when it comes to freqyency and voltage scaling as the omap3 |
| 21:50.48 | Crnkoj | i think so too yes |
| 21:51.22 | Crnkoj | itsnotabigtruck k so i read your guide, very nice and comprehensive, sicne i only fucked up 1 file on the rootfs, it seems safe to me to just flash the Replace operating system (preserves user data) part |
| 21:51.24 | Crnkoj | ? |
| 21:51.31 | Crnkoj | so i dont have to redownload all the maps and so on |
| 21:51.51 | Crnkoj | do the accounts/contacts stay that way or are they being erased aswell ? |
| 21:51.51 | itsnotabigtruck | ah, cpuinfo_cur_freq = current cpu frequency |
| 21:51.56 | itsnotabigtruck | scaling_cur_freq = selected frequency |
| 21:52.00 | Crnkoj | yes |
| 21:52.26 | itsnotabigtruck | Crnkoj: contacts are on the userdata partition |
| 21:52.44 | Crnkoj | cool so i dont have to resync |
| 21:52.51 | itsnotabigtruck | you shouldn't lose much data, since most stuff is kept somewhere in /home or /home/user/MyDocs |
| 21:52.56 | Crnkoj | and theye i know |
| 21:52.57 | itsnotabigtruck | you will lose your angry birds save :p |
| 21:53.02 | Crnkoj | who cares |
| 21:53.07 | Crnkoj | im to cheap to buy them on the n9 |
| 21:53.11 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 21:53.14 | Crnkoj | since i can have them for free on android |
| 21:53.25 | Crnkoj | and i have a backup phone that runs android :D |
| 21:53.43 | itsnotabigtruck | angry birds is the one app i've bought, lol |
| 21:53.54 | Crnkoj | hah |
| 21:54.00 | Crnkoj | i like heebo |
| 21:55.01 | Crnkoj | i wonder, if maybe some config is saved in the /home/user/MyDocs dir/subdirs that needs to be removed |
| 21:55.13 | Crnkoj | so if it woudl be wiser to jsut reflash both the rootfs and userdata partition |
| 21:56.12 | jonni | well yes, but I'd love to see a N9 device (without overclock.ko) which gives sometime else than round numbers when you cat that file. |
| 21:56.40 | Crnkoj | jonni ill try my best |
| 21:56.45 | Crnkoj | once i reflash it |
| 21:56.45 | jonni | only values that you will get out are 1000000 800000 600000 and 300000 |
| 21:56.56 | Crnkoj | ye lets see |
| 21:56.58 | Crnkoj | :D |
| 21:57.01 | jonni | if you set scaling_max_freq then you can change it |
| 21:57.12 | Crnkoj | anyways does anyone know the NAND that the n9 64gb uses, is it SLC or MLC ? |
| 21:59.53 | itsnotabigtruck | Crnkoj: it's gotta be mlc |
| 22:00.07 | itsnotabigtruck | though "the nand" usually refers to the (1gb?) flash that the bootloader, kernel, etc. are on |
| 22:00.07 | Crnkoj | ah ye |
| 22:00.24 | Crnkoj | i thought the rest of the 64gb are nand aswell |
| 22:00.25 | itsnotabigtruck | rather than the emmc, which is where basically everything is |
| 22:00.29 | Crnkoj | ah ye |
| 22:00.31 | itsnotabigtruck | including the rootfs |
| 22:00.34 | Crnkoj | itsnotabigtruck one question |
| 22:00.43 | itsnotabigtruck | the "emmc image" is actually just for the userdata region on the emmc |
| 22:00.47 | Crnkoj | the flasher -i gives me this Version of 'sw-release': DFL61_HARMATTAN_30.2012.07-1_PR_001 |
| 22:00.48 | itsnotabigtruck | the rootfs goes on the emmc too |
| 22:00.56 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah? |
| 22:01.03 | Crnkoj | the bin image i dled |
| 22:01.05 | Crnkoj | is this DFL61_HARMATTAN_30.2012.07-1_PR_LEGACY_001-OEM1-958_ARM.bin |
| 22:01.09 | Crnkoj | the LEGACY |
| 22:01.13 | Crnkoj | does that matter |
| 22:01.15 | itsnotabigtruck | those are the same, you're fine |
| 22:01.18 | Crnkoj | ok thanks |
| 22:01.28 | Crnkoj | so one mroe thing |
| 22:01.35 | Crnkoj | it says run flasher -i and only than connect the phone |
| 22:01.49 | Crnkoj | but than to flash it the phone already ahs to be connected form when i ran the flasher -i command ? |
| 22:01.50 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, because attaching it causes it to boot |
| 22:02.01 | Crnkoj | cool |
| 22:02.03 | itsnotabigtruck | then flasher -i sees the phone's bootloader and tells it to go into flash mode |
| 22:02.09 | Crnkoj | ok cool |
| 22:02.10 | itsnotabigtruck | then it stays in flash mode for the rest of the commands |
| 22:02.13 | Crnkoj | so i can flasher -f _F now |
| 22:02.17 | Crnkoj | -F* |
| 22:02.25 | itsnotabigtruck | it's possible to do everything in just one command but i prefer the way i put in the guide |
| 22:02.42 | itsnotabigtruck | takes less trial and error usually |
| 22:02.48 | Crnkoj | erm |
| 22:02.53 | Crnkoj | flasher -f -F main.bin -F emmc.bin --flash-only=mmc |
| 22:03.00 | Crnkoj | i thought this woudl flash both the rootfs and the emmc |
| 22:03.02 | itsnotabigtruck | that one is for doing the emmc |
| 22:03.12 | Crnkoj | oh since it has flash-only at the end |
| 22:03.13 | itsnotabigtruck | no, it doesn't, the --flash-only=mmc tells it to do only the emmc |
| 22:03.16 | Crnkoj | ok |
| 22:03.24 | Crnkoj | why does one put the main.bin first than |
| 22:03.25 | Crnkoj | ? |
| 22:03.29 | Crnkoj | (just curious |
| 22:03.30 | itsnotabigtruck | i wrote the command for doing the emmc that way, because if you ONLY do the emmc |
| 22:03.35 | itsnotabigtruck | you have to do that entire command |
| 22:03.44 | itsnotabigtruck | you can't just specify emmc.bin |
| 22:03.51 | Crnkoj | ah ok |
| 22:04.00 | itsnotabigtruck | because actually flashing it requires loading a flash kernel (ape-algo) |
| 22:04.06 | itsnotabigtruck | and that only comes with the main.bin |
| 22:04.27 | itsnotabigtruck | so you tell it to load the images, launch the flash kernel on the device, then flash the mmc image (from emmc.bin) only |
| 22:04.47 | Crnkoj | ok thanks for teh explanation |
| 22:04.51 | Crnkoj | so im flashing the rootfs as we speak |
| 22:05.10 | Crnkoj | 10mb/s flash |
| 22:05.12 | Crnkoj | nice speed |
| 22:05.23 | Crnkoj | the other day i was writing with over 20mb/s to teh emmc |
| 22:05.25 | Crnkoj | over usb |
| 22:05.49 | Crnkoj | i was quite astonished how fast it is, thats why i was wondering if its MLC or SLC |
| 22:06.42 | Crnkoj | Success! |
| 22:06.58 | jonni | Its OneNand (combines mlc and slc) |
| 22:07.15 | Crnkoj | ah interesting |
| 22:07.21 | Crnkoj | didnt know that |
| 22:07.31 | Crnkoj | so the 1gb is slc the rest is mlc ? |
| 22:08.02 | Crnkoj | btw did anyone here try the led notification form the meego forums ? |
| 22:08.08 | Crnkoj | i tried them installed properly with inception |
| 22:08.15 | Crnkoj | but it wouldnt work until i stopped and started it |
| 22:08.15 | itsnotabigtruck | Crnkoj: it doesn't work properly |
| 22:08.22 | Crnkoj | and after reboots it wont work agian |
| 22:08.22 | Crnkoj | ye |
| 22:08.26 | Crnkoj | that was my point ^ ^ |
| 22:08.30 | itsnotabigtruck | it doesn't do anything unless you run it directly, rather from upstart, and then when you do, it triggers when it shouldn't |
| 22:08.34 | Crnkoj | wasnt sure if its made like that or if i fucked up something |
| 22:08.36 | itsnotabigtruck | it's not just you |
| 22:08.41 | Crnkoj | cool |
| 22:08.42 | Crnkoj | thanks |
| 22:08.50 | itsnotabigtruck | and it's not because of inception, it's just that the implementation needs some tweaking |
| 22:08.53 | itsnotabigtruck | of the led notifier |
| 22:08.57 | Crnkoj | im really missing something like that |
| 22:09.32 | Crnkoj | i mean the off-screen is nice, but still id prefer a led |
| 22:09.46 | Crnkoj | success! |
| 22:10.03 | itsnotabigtruck | yay |
| 22:10.06 | Crnkoj | itsnotabigtruck ok one more thing, now the mmc finished flashing |
| 22:10.11 | Crnkoj | and the phone seems to have turned off |
| 22:10.19 | itsnotabigtruck | wait, you did the mmc? |
| 22:10.19 | Crnkoj | thers no more progress bar on it or anything |
| 22:10.23 | Crnkoj | ye i did both |
| 22:10.25 | itsnotabigtruck | that means you nuked all your contacts and stuff |
| 22:10.29 | Crnkoj | ye |
| 22:10.31 | itsnotabigtruck | well, *everything* |
| 22:10.32 | Crnkoj | i have it all on gmail anyways |
| 22:10.35 | itsnotabigtruck | ah ok |
| 22:10.40 | Crnkoj | ye |
| 22:10.43 | Crnkoj | android and n9 |
| 22:10.44 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, yeah, now you do the flasher -R |
| 22:10.47 | itsnotabigtruck | then boot it up |
| 22:10.49 | Crnkoj | nighmater to sync if not thorugh gmail |
| 22:11.05 | Crnkoj | k |
| 22:11.09 | Crnkoj | dc from cable ? |
| 22:11.51 | Crnkoj | mhm thanks a lot guys |
| 22:11.57 | Crnkoj | seems it booted fine |
| 22:12.06 | itsnotabigtruck | ok cool :) |
| 22:12.45 | Crnkoj | btw how prone is the casing to get damaged ? |
| 22:12.52 | Crnkoj | i had the phone in the silicon sleeve for now |
| 22:12.56 | Crnkoj | but its kinda big with it |
| 22:13.19 | Crnkoj | i mean clunky |
| 22:14.23 | Crnkoj | k so ill let it settle down |
| 22:16.35 | Crnkoj | i guess the nokia guys wont know if i did this? i mean warrant wont be gone? |
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