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| 16:34.27 | Crnkoj | hey guys i need some help/assistance with an issue, yday night i turned off my n9 and put it to charge and today in the morning i turned it on and all was well, but after ~6 hours i checked the battery usage and it drained a lot of battery, than i saw there that audio playback is in 100% usage on background the whole uptime of the phone. so my question is does anyone have a solution to that ? |
| 16:34.49 | Crnkoj | i tried rebooting, turning the phone off, trying to play music through the music store and stopping it and closing it, but to no avail |
| 16:35.22 | Crnkoj | i even had calls inbetween but nothing changed |
| 16:35.55 | mgedmin | Crnkoj, interesting |
| 16:35.56 | Crnkoj | sound for one works well on apps/games/playback/calls |
| 16:36.20 | mgedmin | do you have a terminal (or ssh)? can you run 'top' and see what process is eating CPU? |
| 16:36.32 | Crnkoj | ye i have devel-su and terminal |
| 16:36.34 | Crnkoj | already checked that |
| 16:36.39 | Crnkoj | there is nothing that would show anything eating it |
| 16:36.41 | Crnkoj | the thing is |
| 16:36.58 | Crnkoj | the battery usage shows 100% background for the audio playback |
| 16:37.07 | mgedmin | hm |
| 16:37.14 | mgedmin | I don't actually know what that means |
| 16:37.15 | Crnkoj | but than procesor usages is said to be Impact 100% but avg. load is said to be 0% |
| 16:37.30 | Crnkoj | hmm do you have the battery usage appe ? |
| 16:37.31 | mgedmin | maybe it's not the CPU but the DSP? |
| 16:37.36 | mgedmin | I've the app |
| 16:37.38 | Crnkoj | it could be i really dont know |
| 16:37.41 | mgedmin | I've never seen this issue |
| 16:37.42 | Crnkoj | so if oyu open it up |
| 16:37.49 | Crnkoj | and under "Top energy consumers" |
| 16:37.53 | Crnkoj | you have like meego system |
| 16:37.56 | Crnkoj | celular network |
| 16:37.57 | Crnkoj | phone |
| 16:37.59 | Crnkoj | and so on |
| 16:38.04 | Crnkoj | one of them is Audio playback |
| 16:38.05 | Crnkoj | for me |
| 16:38.18 | Crnkoj | if you click on that |
| 16:38.33 | Crnkoj | you have "Power usage profile" and "Resource usage details" |
| 16:38.40 | Crnkoj | and under the first one there is background 100% |
| 16:38.53 | Crnkoj | under the second one processor usage is 100% but avg. load is 0% |
| 16:38.54 | Crnkoj | so weird |
| 16:39.01 | Crnkoj | but i see a terribly battery drain so to say |
| 16:39.34 | Crnkoj | it drained 26% in 10h while it normally drains about 1%/hour and i havent used the phone much |
| 16:39.44 | Crnkoj | just turned it on and made a not even 5 min call |
| 16:39.46 | Crnkoj | so weird |
| 16:40.32 | Crnkoj | let me make a screenshot adn upload it to dp |
| 16:40.33 | Crnkoj | db |
| 16:43.19 | Crnkoj | mgedmin here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24268926/20120316174038.png and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24268926/20120316174051.png |
| 16:43.54 | Crnkoj | i have never seen it before, with the backround 100% |
| 16:44.33 | Crnkoj | btw im on pr 1.2 |
| 16:44.42 | mgedmin | Crinif you click on the 'more...', what do you see? |
| 16:44.50 | mgedmin | (on the first page) |
| 16:45.04 | Crnkoj | the power usage |
| 16:45.06 | Crnkoj | or avg current ? |
| 16:45.24 | Crnkoj | power usage says |
| 16:45.28 | Crnkoj | active 39 mins 72% |
| 16:45.35 | Crnkoj | idle 9h 30 mins 28% |
| 16:45.42 | Crnkoj | avg current 20mA |
| 16:45.44 | mgedmin | what's avg idle consumption in mA? |
| 16:45.48 | Crnkoj | acg active 194mA |
| 16:45.51 | Crnkoj | avg idle 6mA |
| 16:45.57 | Crnkoj | normally i had 4mA |
| 16:46.09 | mgedmin | sighs, looking at his 49 mA avg idle consumption |
| 16:46.18 | Crnkoj | (i have internet/3g turned off and dont have sync) |
| 16:46.20 | Crnkoj | ah lol |
| 16:46.24 | mgedmin | avg active for me is 141 mA |
| 16:46.39 | mgedmin | I've wifi/3g on and twitter polling the event feed every no-idea-how-many minutes |
| 16:46.43 | Crnkoj | ye for me avg active is always almost around 200mA |
| 16:46.54 | Crnkoj | ye i had wifi/2g data on |
| 16:46.55 | Crnkoj | for a day |
| 16:46.57 | Crnkoj | the other day |
| 16:47.02 | Crnkoj | and it was at like 11-14mA |
| 16:47.08 | Crnkoj | with sync on 20mins for exchange |
| 16:47.20 | Crnkoj | so ye im not concerned about that |
| 16:47.30 | Crnkoj | im just puzzled about the audio in background |
| 16:47.34 | Crnkoj | i really tried many things |
| 16:47.37 | Crnkoj | did top |
| 16:47.43 | mgedmin | still, the impact is just 8% |
| 16:47.47 | Crnkoj | cant see anything really related to audio |
| 16:47.53 | Crnkoj | ye but normally its not there |
| 16:47.54 | Crnkoj | =/ |
| 16:48.07 | mgedmin | yeah, I don't know... |
| 16:48.28 | Crnkoj | ah, ye thansk for your help |
| 16:48.30 | Crnkoj | :) |
| 16:48.31 | Crnkoj | bleh |
| 16:48.35 | Crnkoj | im kidna tempted to reflash it |
| 16:48.36 | Crnkoj | ... |
| 16:48.43 | mgedmin | #firstworldproblems |
| 16:48.46 | Crnkoj | but so annoying to set up all the apps and settings |
| 16:48.50 | Crnkoj | ? |
| 16:48.51 | mgedmin | 9 mA avg idle consumption and still not happy ;) |
| 16:48.58 | Crnkoj | 6 :P |
| 16:49.03 | Crnkoj | but as i said i ahd 4 |
| 16:49.04 | Crnkoj | had |
| 16:49.05 | mgedmin | aaaughj |
| 16:49.10 | Crnkoj | well 4-5 |
| 16:49.18 | Crnkoj | but ye that is with wifi off while idle |
| 16:49.25 | Crnkoj | too bad pr 1.2 broke the auto off |
| 16:49.42 | mgedmin | auto off? |
| 16:49.44 | mgedmin | what's that? |
| 16:49.47 | Crnkoj | erm |
| 16:49.52 | Crnkoj | you know in the settings for internet |
| 16:49.55 | mgedmin | yes |
| 16:49.57 | Crnkoj | you can set it to be turned on or off |
| 16:50.03 | Crnkoj | and than you can set background conn on or off |
| 16:50.20 | mgedmin | yes? |
| 16:50.21 | Crnkoj | if you turn background conn to on on 1.2 some apps make it be permanently on |
| 16:50.32 | mgedmin | well, yes ;) |
| 16:50.37 | Crnkoj | on 1.1 wifi/data turned off after the app refreshed it |
| 16:50.40 | mgedmin | although, to be fair, I had the same with 1.0 |
| 16:50.45 | mgedmin | but then again I use twitter |
| 16:50.49 | Crnkoj | well i only was running 1.1 and 1.2 now |
| 16:51.02 | Crnkoj | it seems so random on 1.2 |
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| 16:51.13 | Crnkoj | eh? |
| 16:51.15 | mgedmin | aaaugh ctrl-w in xchat closes the channel |
| 16:51.18 | Crnkoj | its so random for me on 1.2 |
| 16:51.28 | Crnkoj | for instance if i open the web broeser |
| 16:51.34 | Crnkoj | and have the backround to off |
| 16:51.45 | Crnkoj | than i can browse and when i stop browsing |
| 16:51.48 | Crnkoj | it turns off |
| 16:52.01 | Crnkoj | oh sorry just saw now, ther eis a mistake here [17:50] <Crnkoj> if you turn background conn to on on 1.2 some apps make it be permanently on |
| 16:52.06 | Crnkoj | the conn to on should be conn to off |
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| 16:52.43 | Crnkoj | but if for some reason some other app (not sure which one, maybe weather?) checks for it the wifi/data stay connected |
| 16:53.00 | Crnkoj | i have read its acommon bug on 1.2 for most if not all people though |
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| 16:56.39 | Crnkoj | blah this is so annoying me now that im just gonna reflash the thing bleh |
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| 19:34.38 | koe | hey guys, i've got a qustion, does N9 has unlocked bootloader? |
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| 20:56.20 | itsnotabigtruck | koe: sort of |
| 20:57.59 | itsnotabigtruck | if you load an unisnged kernel, it goes into open mode |
| 20:59.41 | itsnotabigtruck | which displays an obnoxious warning every time you boot up, and impairs the functioning of aegis |
| 20:59.54 | itsnotabigtruck | also you can't go back to normal mode without reflashing the entire phone |
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| 21:20.45 | itsnotabigtruck | ffs, why can't the wifi hotspot program allow using something other than wifi channels 1/6/11 on 2.4ghz :/ |
| 21:22.09 | mgedmin | is more annoyed by its lack of support for proper managed mode |
| 21:24.04 | itsnotabigtruck | mgedmin: heh |
| 21:24.16 | itsnotabigtruck | so is it confirmed for sure that the current wl1271 driver won't let you go into master mode? |
| 21:24.29 | itsnotabigtruck | i think someone tested it with iwconfig the other day but they might have done something incorrectly |
| 21:24.39 | itsnotabigtruck | i.e. caused it to fail for some reason other than no driver support |
| 21:24.47 | mgedmin | I dunno |
| 21:25.34 | mgedmin | end-users do not care; end-users know that their N9 wifi hotspot is not usable with their Android devices |
| 21:25.46 | mgedmin | (android doesn't support ad-hoc networks, apparently) |
| 21:26.27 | itsnotabigtruck | mgedmin: let's be fair, that's a fringe scenario, given that the android device is 99% of the time a phone with its own data connection |
| 21:26.36 | itsnotabigtruck | also, this wifi hotspot connection is iunusable |
| 21:26.48 | itsnotabigtruck | the lag is extreme |
| 21:27.04 | mgedmin | would like to pull a [citation needed] for the 99% figure |
| 21:27.58 | itsnotabigtruck | mgedmin: android is a phone operating system, for phones |
| 21:28.09 | mgedmin | except honeycomb, which is for tablets ;) |
| 21:28.11 | itsnotabigtruck | sure, it runs on tablets too, but that's a recent phenomenon, and a lot of those tablets are themselves phones |
| 21:28.44 | itsnotabigtruck | be realistic, the number of android tablets out there is microscopic compared to phones |
| 21:28.47 | itsnotabigtruck | everybody and their mom has an android phone now, if they don't have an iphone |
| 21:29.52 | itsnotabigtruck | and honeycomb was kind of a wasted release precisely because of that |
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