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| 01:20.16 | itsnotabigtruck | anyone on? |
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| 06:30.31 | itsnotabigtruck | >>>>>>> https://endno.de/~itsnotabigtruck/inception/ <<<<<<< |
| 06:30.35 | itsnotabigtruck | it's here, and it works |
| 06:30.40 | itsnotabigtruck | everyone is invited to #inception to talk about incepting things |
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| 07:19.29 | jonne | ooh, nice |
| 07:19.42 | jonne | can't wait what this will enable us to do |
| 07:20.56 | itsnotabigtruck | jonne: get in #inception, while you incept! :D |
| 07:21.57 | jonne | i'm not installing it yet, i'll wait for someone to find a use for direct device access |
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| 12:48.32 | Jonne_ | anyone else have issues with the n9 setting an alarm for birthdays on noon the day before after upgrading to P.R. 1.2 ? |
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| 15:31.35 | Jonne_ | ooh, flash in OVI store. Can't wait to have it drain my battery |
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| 19:03.45 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I want to know what has changed with updates |
| 19:03.50 | ToAruShiroiNeko | where would I find this info? |
| 19:08.09 | merlin1991 | tmo |
| 19:33.02 | itsnotabigtruck | ToAruShiroiNeko: which updates? pr1.2, or something else? |
| 19:33.07 | itsnotabigtruck | also, get incepted |
| 19:33.25 | itsnotabigtruck | merlin1991: same applies |
| 19:33.27 | itsnotabigtruck | :D |
| 19:39.44 | jonne | can we do anything with incepted, except pat ourselves on the back for rooting our device? |
| 19:40.18 | jonne | it's just the first step to something like the cssu, right? |
| 19:41.08 | itsnotabigtruck | jonne: well, right now you can do things like mount filesystems |
| 19:41.22 | itsnotabigtruck | and you can code up things that take avantage of the power |
| 19:41.52 | itsnotabigtruck | it's also very useful for fixing things up on the N9 in a pinch, though most of hte info for that is undocumented |
| 19:42.00 | itsnotabigtruck | e.g. how to safely modify aegis files |
| 19:42.25 | itsnotabigtruck | if you ever run into "Operation not permitted" errors then inception can help you right now |
| 19:42.41 | itsnotabigtruck | otherwise, yeah, wait for apps built on it to start coming in |
| 19:42.47 | jonne | which filesystems? I can't put an SD card in the phone, and mounting SMB or SSHFS is tricky when you have aggressive powersaving wifi |
| 19:43.09 | jonne | still, good work |
| 19:43.09 | itsnotabigtruck | people mostly seem to be interested in remote filesystems like sshfs |
| 19:43.14 | jonne | i just dont need it right now |
| 19:43.15 | itsnotabigtruck | also you could set up a cryptloop or something |
| 19:43.42 | jonne | i can mount the pĥone's filesystem through sshfs already |
| 19:43.58 | jonne | makes more sense than the other way around, i think |
| 19:45.12 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, just incept your phone because you can :p |
| 19:45.17 | itsnotabigtruck | you'll inevitably find uses for it |
| 19:45.28 | itsnotabigtruck | there's no disadvantage and it's easy |
| 19:48.30 | jonne | i'll see if someone finds a cool use for it |
| 19:48.35 | jonne | won't take long |
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| 20:00.19 | bedrock | any caldav gurus here? |
| 20:18.42 | itsnotabigtruck | probably not |
| 20:18.52 | itsnotabigtruck | bedrock: incepted yet? |
| 20:19.03 | bedrock | no not yet |
| 20:19.41 | bedrock | have read about it though, sounds cool |
| 20:20.04 | bedrock | when i have a need for it, i'll definately consider usign it |
| 20:20.36 | itsnotabigtruck | seems like an awful lot of people are saying that :( it is an unfortunate chicken-and-egg situation |
| 20:21.09 | bedrock | i guess so, and probably patched by the time PR1.3+ comes around |
| 20:21.21 | itsnotabigtruck | few people will build packages that take advantage of it until *everyone* has it installed, and few people will install it until there's a number of those packages |
| 20:21.29 | itsnotabigtruck | let me take care of that part :p |
| 20:22.35 | bedrock | i'd really like to see wifi hotspot mode that supports infrastructure mode (rather thn just adhoc) but i don't know what would be needed, and even if inception would help (but i expect it would!) |
| 20:24.28 | itsnotabigtruck | bedrock: well, inception is needed at the very minimum to load the NAT kernel module |
| 20:25.05 | itsnotabigtruck | http://n9-apps.com/inception |
| 20:25.09 | itsnotabigtruck | just published on n9-apps |
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| 22:21.14 | rZr | itsnotabigtruck: is this place better than a4m ? |
| 22:23.48 | itsnotabigtruck | rzr: well, it's different from a4m |
| 22:23.57 | itsnotabigtruck | it's less of an app store and more of an app directory that sends you to other places |
| 22:24.20 | itsnotabigtruck | i recommend publishing all your stuff that's production-grade there, including stuff on apps for meego |
| 22:25.06 | rZr | well redak needs some feedbacks from a4m users ... |
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| 22:40.19 | rZr | just open those 2 urls |
| 22:40.23 | rZr | on your n9 |
| 22:40.24 | rZr | http://apps.formeego.org/n9testing |
| 22:40.27 | rZr | apps://1527 |
| 22:46.36 | DocScrutinizer | alas inception won't IMHO help at all to load any kernel module, as you'd still need a kernel module that matches the kernel, and you can't get such a module |
| 22:47.04 | DocScrutinizer | meh, he's gone |
| 22:49.01 | rZr | but some rebuild modules may be inserted fine |
| 22:49.09 | rZr | rebuilt |
| 23:15.55 | itsnotabigtruck | DocScrutinizer: sure you can...just build the new modules against the loaded kernel's headers |
| 23:16.42 | itsnotabigtruck | that's what javispedro earlier hack did iirc and that's what things like DKMS and nvidia's gfx drivers do |
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