IRC log for #n9 on 20120304

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06:30.39denism1N9 64GB PR1.2. Seems Maps has been never tested on 64GB devices. Nokia Link does not support Maps, latest Nokia Store does not support N9. And "manage Maps" works really weird after about 10-15 installed regions. It takes 2-3 "Maps not responding" warnings to add 1 more map. :-E
06:32.05denism1(64GB important - as I can and want to install every possible region)
06:32.11itsnotabigtruckdenism1: 15 regions? really? now that's just wasting space :p
06:33.39denism1itsnotabigtruck: I have no any idea how else I can use that 64GB :)
06:41.40itsnotabigtruckdenism1: music!
06:41.45itsnotabigtruckand then more music
06:42.00itsnotabigtruckmaybe some movies too
06:50.38denism1yes, but at the same time I think for 64GB devices its an usual use case - try to setup full Maps for offline usage :( for me - Maps triggered 2 crashes, 5 times fully frozen, 1 sudden reboot. :(
06:53.45itsnotabigtruckdenism1: strange :/
06:53.56itsnotabigtruckhaven't experienced that but i also haven't tried installing lots of maps
06:54.22itsnotabigtruckit's really a waste though since no one travels everywhere constantly, even jetsetters :p
06:54.43itsnotabigtruckif you've got a trip planned, just let it download the map overnight
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11:06.19auenfPR1.2 cant come fast enough to fix my pulseaudio idle cpu bug...
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12:09.59slingrwhere are you auenf
12:10.13auenfau
12:10.46auenfgot PR1.1 first week of 2012 btw
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14:13.44itsnotabigtruckauenf: flash it
14:13.49itsnotabigtruckno need to wait pointlessly
14:13.59itsnotabigtruckall regions have generic firmware
14:14.12auenfi have generic firmware for my region
14:19.58ToAruShiroiNekoitsnotabigtruck is there a location to post bugs and other problems?
14:20.31itsnotabigtruckToAruShiroiNeko: https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/
14:20.40itsnotabigtrucktry not to post n00b stuff there for everyone's sake :p
14:20.54itsnotabigtruckauenf: what firmware version are you on
14:20.58itsnotabigtruck(the entire thing, not just 1.1)
14:21.02itsnotabigtruckyou can see it in about
14:21.15auenfPR_299
14:21.21itsnotabigtruckthat's not generic firmware
14:21.30itsnotabigtruckgeneric = 001, 003, 005, 006, 009
14:21.30auenfsure it is
14:21.44itsnotabigtruckyou have country variant, or carrier branded firmware
14:21.53auenfcountry variant, yes
14:22.06itsnotabigtruckbut fortunately you can simply flash to a generic firmware
14:22.27auenf059L7G7
14:22.50itsnotabigtruckhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693 go through this and download the RM-696 NDT 64GB ROW BLACK firmware
14:23.05itsnotabigtruckwhich is 001
14:23.26auenfnot going to
14:23.36auenfjust going to complain loudly to nokia au instead ;)
14:23.52itsnotabigtruckthen that's your own fault for not having pr1.2
14:24.00auenfno, its not my fault
14:24.03auenfits nokia au's fault
14:24.04itsnotabigtrucknokia has definitely mismanaged this with the slow rollout
14:24.20itsnotabigtruckbut at the same time, there's something you can do about it, it's not that hard, and you won't do it
14:24.33auenfthat pretty much blocked PR1.1 for non operator variants till the end of 2011
14:24.41auenfs/that/they
14:25.06auenfmeanwhile they were pimping the fact that they wanted the l800 more than looking after their existing n9 customers
14:25.45itsnotabigtruckjust flash it
14:25.55itsnotabigtruckand btw there is a generic firmware for australia
14:25.56itsnotabigtruckregion 005
14:26.12itsnotabigtruck(well actually it's asia-pacific excluding china)
14:26.26itsnotabigtruckgo download the australia firmware
14:26.32itsnotabigtruckthen tell me they're blocking all the australians from having pr1.2
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14:27.31auenfwhat 059 code would be PR_005 ?
14:27.46itsnotabigtrucki'm not sure, many of them
14:27.52itsnotabigtruckthere's many more product codes than firmware images
14:28.03itsnotabigtruckfire up navifirm and pick anything that says australia in the list for pr1.2
14:28.18auenf059J233: RM-696 NDT AUSTRALIA BLACK 64GB
14:28.25auenfi assume that is generic
14:28.32itsnotabigtruckyup
14:28.51itsnotabigtruckand also if you flash now, you don't have to wait very long when pr1.3 comes out
14:28.57itsnotabigtruckdays, not weeks
14:29.38auenfsif weeks
14:29.43auenfit'll be months :P
14:35.32auenfhttp://twitter.com/#!/NokiaAustralia/status/174627922257248257
14:35.46auenfawesome english there
14:41.58itsnotabigtruckheh
14:42.41itsnotabigtruckauenf: if you started downloading at 11:09Z you'd be running PR1.2 by now :D
14:43.15auenfnot at adsl1 speeds
14:45.02itsnotabigtruckheh
14:45.37ToAruShiroiNekoitsnotabigtruck I am fillin them bugzillas :p;
14:45.38ToAruShiroiNeko:p
14:47.01itsnotabigtruckToAruShiroiNeko: what are the bugs? remember, they might already be reported
14:47.20ToAruShiroiNekohttps://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&list_id=10662&query_format=specific&order=bug_id%20DESC&query_based_on=
14:47.35ToAruShiroiNekolast 4
14:48.46itsnotabigtruckjust give bug numbers
14:49.06itsnotabigtruck1093, 1094, 1095, and 1096?
14:49.37ToAruShiroiNekoye
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15:32.20virtualdif i put my n9 in open mode, can i get back to closed mode when i flash it?
15:33.10virtualdor is it a write once thing?
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17:34.47itsnotabigtruckugggggggggggh
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19:25.35jonnescary warning after updating google talk video support today
19:25.48jonnedidn't break anything, though
19:26.12denism1jonne: the same. Do not understand, is there any QA testing for such updates?..
19:26.32jonnei'm just happy we get them :p
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19:31.52itsnotabigtruckjonne: are you talking about the open mode warranty void disclaimer?
19:32.05itsnotabigtruckor the recovering from interrupted updates one
19:32.14jonneinterrupted updates
19:32.39jonnedidn't really read it, just clicked ok and then it rebooted to normal
19:33.17jonnedidn't test google talk, but that's because i don't know anyone that uses it
19:38.11jonneit says the update failed
19:38.20ToAruShiroiNekoitsnotabigtruck you liked my bug posts? :/
19:38.36jonnei'll try again, this time while i'll stay within wifi range
19:38.41itsnotabigtruckToAruShiroiNeko: the ugggh had nothing to do with you :p
19:38.44itsnotabigtruckbugs are o
19:38.46itsnotabigtruck*bugs are ok
19:39.26itsnotabigtruckhttp://apps.formeego.org/staging/applications/n9/pr1.0/harmattan/Network/ad-hac/
19:39.31itsnotabigtruckzero QA reviews :(
19:39.45itsnotabigtruckall people have to do is log into a4m, click community qa, tick a checkbox, and submit
19:39.53jonnehow many N9's are even in the US?
19:40.10itsnotabigtrucki mean, i'm not recommending doing that indiscriminately, but it seems like no one is doing QA forms for any app on a4m
19:40.12itsnotabigtruckeven ones they use
19:40.24itsnotabigtruckthere's apps that have a whole bunch of comments and no QAs
19:40.32itsnotabigtruckand...not very many
19:40.58itsnotabigtrucki'd wager it's in the x0000s
19:41.11itsnotabigtruckcould be even less, i don't know
19:41.24itsnotabigtrucki have no idea what sort of volumes the importers have
19:41.49itsnotabigtruckbut there's a decent amount of talk about this wifi hotspot crippling on the 'net, so people are definitely affected by it
19:42.45itsnotabigtruckalso n9fanclub already took my .deb, zipped it up with a blurb for their website, then reposted it with my description and no credit :/
19:43.02itsnotabigtruckseems like they do that with basically every n9 package there is, commercial or free
19:47.10ToAruShiroiNekoone n9 a day keeps the doctor away
19:47.58jonneuninstalled it, reinstalled it, seems fine now
19:48.19jonnenote to self: don't just walk to your car to unload it while updating
19:49.17ToAruShiroiNekojonne good advice :p
19:49.48jonnebut i couldn't just leave my precious wine in the car!
19:50.40jonnethat's why i buy stuff from European companies, they're supposed to test for those things
19:55.07ToAruShiroiNekohmm?
19:55.17ToAruShiroiNekounless it is outsourced to china
19:59.54jonnethe software isn't, and since nokia's finnish, you'd think they'd have a specific testcase for 'user decides to get alcohol from outside after starting an upgrade' :p
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