| 00:50.37 | DrGrov | ToAruShiroiNeko: WTH? Drink and GPS? |
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| 02:53.09 | itsnotabigtruck | ToAruShiroiNeko: lolwat |
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| 19:44.36 | bash_vi | Hello everyone. |
| 19:44.45 | mgedmin | hi! |
| 19:45.03 | bash_vi | I got some problems with my Nokia N9 that I recently got. Yesterday I upgraded to PR1.2 by flashing the device |
| 19:45.25 | bash_vi | Now syncing contacts with my Google Account via the Exchange account doesn't work anymore :( |
| 19:45.54 | bash_vi | On every attempt to sync, the contacts will pop up for a few seconds, then disappear again, then the contacts list is completely empty again :( |
| 19:46.32 | bash_vi | I deleted the exchange account twice, and restarted the device several times and even tried on different networks, but none of that helped |
| 19:46.35 | bash_vi | any ideas? |
| 19:48.30 | bash_vi | oh, yeah, and as soon as I plug it into a charger, the touchscreen won't work, until I unplug it again |
| 19:56.46 | itsnotabigtruck | wow, irc's been dead today |
| 19:56.51 | itsnotabigtruck | like, more than a usual friday |
| 19:57.48 | itsnotabigtruck | bash_vi: no idea, but it seems like *everyone*'s got problems with the accounts subsystem |
| 19:58.48 | jaywink | hey bash_vi :) |
| 20:01.34 | jaywink | 2011-2012 will be remembered as the years the greatest Nokia phone came out. And also for two upgrades that while providing a great amount of cool features have also f***ed up many users. I was suffering a lot during 1.1 ... luckily 1.2 has gone quite well for myself |
| 20:02.08 | kns | 1.2 has been good so far.. |
| 20:02.22 | jaywink | I hear a lot of users are having problems |
| 20:02.50 | itsnotabigtruck | the problem is that the OS upgrade doesn't always leave a clean system behind |
| 20:03.01 | itsnotabigtruck | and there's a LOT of things you can do that will break the update, or mess things up later |
| 20:03.23 | itsnotabigtruck | flashing is the best way to go but people have had problems with that too |
| 20:05.36 | jaywink | still haven't dared to try and add a new google account - adding two in PR 1.1 messed up all the other accounts, kept asking for passwords all the time. did quite a few reflashes to learn that :P maybe 1.2 has fixed that but I'm not sure I want to try :P |
| 20:05.43 | bash_vi | itsnotabigtruck: OK :( So for now, I'll try to flash it again |
| 20:06.21 | itsnotabigtruck | also jaywink: in theory there's still a PR1.3 in the pipe |
| 20:06.29 | itsnotabigtruck | but it's not going to add lots of shiny new stuff like PR1.2 did |
| 20:06.32 | itsnotabigtruck | and then, that's probably it |
| 20:06.42 | jaywink | yup |
| 20:06.56 | jaywink | I think we're lucky to have three upgrades :) |
| 20:07.03 | jaywink | (or two plus one maybe) |
| 20:07.13 | kns | 1.2 feature set has been good. |
| 20:07.20 | jaywink | yeah it's awesome |
| 20:07.30 | jaywink | nice improvements |
| 20:12.23 | itsnotabigtruck | all the n00bs on T.M.O are starting to get on my nerves :/ |
| 20:12.54 | itsnotabigtruck | eh, they're not that bad, but the N9 is definitely a phone that's not for noobs - even though nokia marketed it for being easy to use |
| 20:15.49 | jaywink | :) |
| 20:28.13 | jonne|reconnecte | the problem is that whoever maintains telepathy doesn't appear to use it themselves |
| 20:28.37 | jonne|reconnecte | on ubuntu it's got bugs that haven't been fixed in years either |
| 20:29.51 | itsnotabigtruck | jonne|reconnecte: telepathy's mostly written by collabora |
| 20:29.54 | jonne|reconnecte | btw, i just noticed that my contacts list has '46 contacts imported' on top, with no way to dismiss the message AFAICT |
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| 20:30.01 | jonne|reconnecte | what's that about? |
| 20:30.12 | itsnotabigtruck | which i think makes a lot of its revenue from nokia |
| 20:30.25 | itsnotabigtruck | so it's not like it's some fly by night project |
| 20:30.33 | itsnotabigtruck | but yeah, telepathy isn't really as good as it should be |
| 20:30.38 | itsnotabigtruck | especially since it's not exactly new now |
| 20:30.49 | itsnotabigtruck | did you try tapping the message? |
| 20:30.57 | itsnotabigtruck | those contacts would be imported from some account you added |
| 20:30.59 | itsnotabigtruck | e.g. your im contacts |
| 20:31.30 | jonne|reconnecte | i didn't add any new contacts, it might be related to google voice |
| 20:31.41 | jonne|reconnecte | which i did install when it came out |
| 20:33.11 | jonne|reconnecte | i'll try a reboot |
| 20:35.18 | jonne|reconnecte | yep, gone now |
| 20:37.23 | jonne|reconnecte | also, what's the deal with everyone wanting whatsapp? What does it have that other IM networks don't? |
| 20:44.26 | ToAruShiroiNeko | is it possible to connect to the internet through bluetooth with an n9? |
| 20:45.00 | ToAruShiroiNeko | it doesnt help if I have LAN access only |
| 20:54.05 | itsnotabigtruck | ToAruShiroiNeko: don't think there's an app for that yet |
| 20:54.10 | itsnotabigtruck | it's probably possible to build one |
| 20:58.59 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I thought there was an app for everything |
| 21:13.20 | kns | just saw a gtalk app with video support. |
| 21:15.17 | itsnotabigtruck | kns: pr1.2 has video support built in |
| 21:15.24 | itsnotabigtruck | but you need an app from ovi store that switches it on |
| 21:15.29 | itsnotabigtruck | for gtalk |
| 21:15.35 | kns | yeah..right |
| 21:15.38 | itsnotabigtruck | it's not really a gtalk app per se, it's the n9's gtalk integration |
| 21:15.45 | kns | s.. |
| 21:16.00 | kns | waiting for skype soon. |
| 21:17.04 | itsnotabigtruck | skype video probably isn't happening |
| 21:17.31 | kns | why do u think so? |
| 21:17.32 | itsnotabigtruck | and since it's the most proprietary im network on the planet, don't anticipate getting it via some 3rd party arrangement either |
| 21:17.47 | kns | mm.. |
| 21:30.35 | ToAruShiroiNeko | isnt skype video already happened? |
| 21:30.55 | jonne|reconnecte | on the N900, yes |
| 21:30.59 | jonne|reconnecte | not on the N9 |
| 21:31.41 | jonne|reconnecte | too bad, because the N900 couldn't really handle it |
| 21:39.21 | itsnotabigtruck | ToAruShiroiNeko: you're in the US, right? get ad-hac |
| 21:39.34 | itsnotabigtruck | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82715 |
| 21:40.14 | itsnotabigtruck | also it seems like out of the small number of people who use apps for meego, fewer fill out the community qa form :( |
| 21:40.23 | itsnotabigtruck | hence everything being stuck in testing purgatory forever |
| 21:40.35 | itsnotabigtruck | it only takes 6 confirmations to approve an app |
| 21:43.30 | petteri | i tried once to install the apps for meego client, but it would not install. Also the webpage did not work with firefox, it just gave me somekind of redirection loop error. So I gave up |
| 21:44.13 | itsnotabigtruck | petteri: |
| 21:44.26 | petteri | itsnotabigtruck: |
| 21:44.34 | itsnotabigtruck | echo 'deb http://repo.apps.formeego.org/harmattan/apps-testing/ ./' > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/appsformeego-testing.list |
| 21:44.41 | itsnotabigtruck | echo 'deb http://repo.apps.formeego.org/harmattan/apps/ ./' > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/appsformeego.list |
| 21:44.52 | itsnotabigtruck | apt-get install aegis-community-source-policy |
| 21:44.55 | itsnotabigtruck | apt-get update |
| 21:45.11 | petteri | i would prefer if the app store client for apps for meego would be at ovi store |
| 21:45.19 | itsnotabigtruck | (actually, use pkgmgr install -p aegis-community-source-policy, pkgmgr refresh-cache) |
| 21:45.40 | itsnotabigtruck | now if you want the appsformeego client after that, do pkgmgr install -p org.formeego.apps |
| 21:45.54 | itsnotabigtruck | or you can just use meecatalog/apt-get/whatever |
| 21:47.11 | itsnotabigtruck | for example, pkgmgr install -p milkytracker |
| 21:47.13 | itsnotabigtruck | petteri ^ |
| 21:48.27 | petteri | i think I will wait a bit fpr the appsformeego to mature. I am using my N9 a lot and i would hate if it will stop working :p |
| 21:48.48 | itsnotabigtruck | petteri: don't worry, nothing there will mess up your N9, that i'm aware of |
| 21:48.58 | itsnotabigtruck | the other repos, you have to be a bit careful |
| 21:49.04 | itsnotabigtruck | (rzr, nokia platform sdk) |
| 21:49.21 | petteri | do you have any idea if the appsformeego client will be at ovi store someday? |
| 21:49.50 | itsnotabigtruck | well, it doesn't seem like appsformeego is really a hot project anymore :( |
| 21:50.07 | itsnotabigtruck | there's also a good chance the ovi rules prohibit 3rd party app stores |
| 21:50.40 | itsnotabigtruck | however, appsformeego is a weird case since it's a) partially sponsored by the meego project (that nokia is part of), b) explicitly authorized through that aegis-community-source-policy by nokia |
| 21:52.42 | petteri | i /n |
| 21:52.46 | petteri | sorry :) |
| 21:53.28 | itsnotabigtruck | hm? |
| 21:53.30 | itsnotabigtruck | later! |
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| 22:06.40 | DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Hi, I got the charging thing figured out. |
| 22:07.30 | itsnotabigtruck | DrGrov: cool, what fixed it? |
| 22:07.32 | itsnotabigtruck | bbiaf |
| 22:08.38 | DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Nothing fixed it. I realized that I gotta either plug in the charger once I power off or it will start itself and boot itself up all the way to the section of asking PIN code. |
| 22:14.45 | ToAruShiroiNeko | is there a way to organize contacts in N9? |
| 22:14.58 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I want to only see groups rather than individual people |
| 22:15.07 | ToAruShiroiNeko | groups to sub groups too perhaps |
| 22:15.11 | ToAruShiroiNeko | a tree structure |
| 22:16.12 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I want to categorize google contacts, skype contatcs and ordinary contacts seperately as well |
| 22:20.18 | xTs | I have a funny problem with my N9 and hope it might be fixed with PR1.2. Couldn't test it yet. Everytime I connect it to the charger in my car, connect it via bluetooth with my car it looses the connection to the GPS satellites |
| 22:20.51 | petteri | ToAruShiroiNeko: i don't think there are any options besides the ones in the address book menu (right bottom corner) |
| 22:21.11 | xTs | btw a friend showed me a program where he could read out almost every sensor of the device. But I forgot the name of it. Does anyone know how it is called and how to get it? |
| 22:25.27 | ToAruShiroiNeko | xTs thats normal |
| 22:25.42 | ToAruShiroiNeko | what it is trying to do is use your cars gps rather than built in device |
| 22:25.47 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I think |
| 22:28.58 | xTs | My car has no gps |
| 22:30.10 | xTs | I use this holder: http://www.brodit.com/product.html?id=512297&pn=prod&brand=Nokia&model=N9 |
| 22:30.33 | xTs | my car stereo has a bluetooth handsfree |
| 22:31.27 | xTs | and there might be somewhere a cable connected to the roof antenna which is one of these gsm/gps antennas |
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| 22:54.35 | ToAruShiroiNeko | xTs I know that |
| 22:54.42 | ToAruShiroiNeko | but does your phone realize this? |
| 22:54.58 | ToAruShiroiNeko | my phone tries to use bluetooth in car to conntect to gps for example |
| 22:55.04 | ToAruShiroiNeko | my old phone that is |
| 23:01.42 | xTs | hm |
| 23:02.02 | xTs | but if I only connect via bluetooth and don't plugin the charger GPS works fine |
| 23:02.13 | ToAruShiroiNeko | hmm |
| 23:02.19 | xTs | I'll do some more testing tomorrow |
| 23:02.29 | ToAruShiroiNeko | perhaps the current jams the gps |
| 23:02.36 | ToAruShiroiNeko | your phone has a very small antena |
| 23:02.42 | ToAruShiroiNeko | it can be blocked with a newspaper |
| 23:02.57 | xTs | it's possible. |
| 23:03.23 | xTs | But if I unplug the charger the gps signal doesn't come back |
| 23:03.46 | xTs | (I'm good at bug hunting, I try to test every possible thing :) |
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| 23:05.22 | ToAruShiroiNeko | you might be jamming the bluetooth antenna in the car then |
| 23:05.44 | ToAruShiroiNeko | which may be sharing power with the device you use to charge your phone |
| 23:06.45 | xTs | well, it's funny that nobody tested that |
| 23:06.54 | xTs | it's not a very unlikely combination |
| 23:07.46 | xTs | well, the worst part of all is that there's a VW callphone holder mounted, but no adapter plate for the N9... |
| 23:30.16 | ToAruShiroiNeko | itsnotabigtruck do you know a site for n9 accesories btw |
| 23:30.27 | ToAruShiroiNeko | there are a few items I would like to get at some point |
| 23:30.36 | itsnotabigtruck | ToAruShiroiNeko: like a directory of accessories? don't know of anything |
| 23:31.17 | ToAruShiroiNeko | for starters I want something like a docking station |
| 23:31.45 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I use my n9 like a night clock so I want to put it in a manner that it sits properly |
| 23:31.54 | ToAruShiroiNeko | cardboard can help only for so long |
| 23:32.30 | ToAruShiroiNeko | also I want it wearable like a watch |