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| 06:21.16 | keithzg | If I'm on 005, is there any actual advantage of flashing to 001? (I mean for the upgrade from PR1.1 to 1.2) Unless PR1.3 ever comes out, seems like it might be my last chance to change firmware region; I have a Singapore 64GB but I'm in Canada. |
| 07:03.49 | itsnotabigtruck | keithzg: well, there's definitely a pr1.3 in the works |
| 07:04.01 | itsnotabigtruck | it's still possible they could abort the project before it comes out |
| 07:04.11 | itsnotabigtruck | but i think it's in the plan to pump out one last release (pr1.3) |
| 07:04.34 | itsnotabigtruck | but on the other hand, nokia seems to have sped up its release process |
| 07:04.47 | itsnotabigtruck | with pr1.2, it was what, 2 days? to go from 001 to all the 00x unbranded images |
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| 08:57.29 | rdnzl | so i'm on 1.2 and still cannot copy text from emails? what does 'universal copy/paste' mean then? |
| 09:00.57 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 09:03.25 | rdnzl | an option to save an email in the fs would be nice to work around this, but also no avail :( |
| 09:03.43 | rdnzl | maybe its me? |
| 09:06.03 | jonni | heh is universal on apps that support copypaste, emails are rendered webviews, and there is no option to change between scrolling mode to copy&paste mode in email. And there is no option to save as html either. Might be usefull on some usecases, but most likely design wanted to keep it simple, since too many options just confuses the people ;-) |
| 09:07.19 | rdnzl | well, i thought i can probably *work* with my n9 - if i want a toy i buy a console ;) |
| 09:08.50 | jonni | most likely one could do email exporter that reads emails from commandline and saves them in disk. |
| 09:10.04 | rdnzl | hm. ok that sounds a lot more like work |
| 09:10.37 | rdnzl | but if i had to go on a terminal to do that all convenience would be gone |
| 09:11.34 | rdnzl | or could it be done by adding a menue item in the email-view? |
| 09:12.41 | jonni | well its only software, so in theory yes, in openmode you could add menu item in email view. |
| 09:12.50 | itsnotabigtruck | hrm, seems that TMO went down again |
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| 09:19.41 | Jonne_ | so i tried installing the gtalk video plugin, but it rebooted while installing and now i can't uninstall or reinstall it |
| 09:23.44 | petteri | it reads on the ovi page that it will reboot the device |
| 09:25.59 | Jonne_ | it didn't install in any case, and apt says it's locked :s |
| 09:26.46 | Jonne_ | i guess if it reboots the device i should certainly not be trying to mess with it manually in apt |
| 09:27.02 | Jonne_ | never heard of apt rebooting a computer by itself |
| 09:29.13 | petteri | you probably should never use apt on n9 |
| 09:29.47 | Jonne_ | yeah, i read about this, but how do i fix this then? |
| 09:31.54 | petteri | no idea. My installation went fine |
| 09:32.52 | Jonne_ | http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http%3A//talk.maemo.org/showthread.php%3Fp%3D1172502 |
| 09:34.49 | petteri | there is no icon |
| 09:35.01 | petteri | you have to have friend with gtalk video supporting client |
| 09:35.08 | petteri | and your gtalk account only |
| 09:35.09 | petteri | online |
| 09:35.14 | petteri | then you can call her |
| 09:35.46 | Jonne_ | but an icon showed up in my homescreen |
| 09:35.58 | Jonne_ | with a download icon |
| 09:36.05 | Jonne_ | black icon with arrow down |
| 09:36.17 | itsnotabigtruck | "gtalk video plugin"? |
| 09:36.52 | Jonne_ | http://store.ovi.com/content/259046 |
| 09:38.02 | itsnotabigtruck | so much for only allowing pr1.0 apps in the store, lol |
| 09:38.30 | petteri | gtalk video plugin integrates to contacts like in N900 |
| 09:39.06 | itsnotabigtruck | is that an account plugin only or does it install stuff into telepathy too |
| 09:40.16 | petteri | no idea. After installing it you can make video calls like you would make normal calls from the same interface |
| 09:40.19 | petteri | just like in n900 |
| 09:41.04 | petteri | if you are online with gtalk and your friend have client supporting gtalk video |
| 09:41.11 | itsnotabigtruck | from the screenshot it looks like it actually installs a 2nd account plugin or some such |
| 09:41.36 | itsnotabigtruck | so it's not quite the same interface, it makes it look like all your gtalk contacts are actually on 2 different services |
| 09:41.43 | petteri | what screenshot? |
| 09:41.58 | itsnotabigtruck | in the ovi stor |
| 09:43.35 | petteri | it is just to distinguish between normal calls and video calls |
| 09:45.10 | Jonne_ | uninstalled it, reinstalled it, seems to have installed ok now |
| 09:45.30 | Jonne_ | don't really know if any of my contacts have google talk, so can't test |
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| 10:56.38 | Jonne_ | btw, is there a way to have the mail application mark e-mails as read on the server as soon as they're read on the device? a Google account is plain IMAP, right? |
| 11:01.18 | rdnzl | works for me: 'mark as read' on email - another client will see them as read |
| 11:05.40 | Jonne_ | immediately after reading? |
| 11:06.23 | Jonne_ | i have to wait for the client to sync |
| 11:06.50 | rdnzl | well, i did explicitly 'mark as read' without opening the mail and a refresh afterwards |
| 11:06.56 | rdnzl | hang on |
| 11:08.37 | rdnzl | open email, close it, wait some sec. : other client sees unread mail |
| 11:08.38 | rdnzl | m |
| 11:09.32 | rdnzl | refreshing help |
| 11:09.36 | rdnzl | +s |
| 11:10.29 | Jonne_ | i guess i could set e-mail sync to 10 minutes instead of an hour |
| 11:10.50 | rdnzl | or always-up-to-date even |
| 11:11.40 | Jonne_ | i just noticed that |
| 11:11.48 | Jonne_ | does it drain battery? |
| 11:12.01 | Jonne_ | i guess i'll find out |
| 11:12.20 | rdnzl | well, any action drains battery ;) |
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| 12:55.22 | Jonne_ | http://www.allboutn9.info/2012/03/stylish-usb-charger-in-colors-of-your.html nice |
| 13:12.04 | marsje | speaking of IMA mail... my sent mail seems to go to another folder then the Sent folder on my IMAP server.. but where? |
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| 15:49.19 | ToAruShiroiNeko | Is it possible to merge calenders in the n9? |
| 15:49.23 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I currently have 3 calenders |
| 15:49.32 | ToAruShiroiNeko | one from my sync with google calenders |
| 15:49.39 | ToAruShiroiNeko | one local to my phone and one for birth days |
| 15:49.54 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I want google calender to see everything basically |
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| 15:51.14 | itsnotabigtruck | CALENDAR |
| 15:51.18 | itsnotabigtruck | IT HAS AN A |
| 15:51.25 | itsnotabigtruck | ok, now that that's in the record :p |
| 15:52.01 | itsnotabigtruck | Jonne_: whoa, i like that |
| 15:52.25 | itsnotabigtruck | there's also colorful data cables now |
| 15:52.26 | itsnotabigtruck | http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/accessories/power-and-data/data-cables/nokia-charging-and-data-cable-ca-190cd |
| 15:52.28 | ToAruShiroiNeko | celander. |
| 15:52.43 | itsnotabigtruck | :p |
| 15:52.50 | ToAruShiroiNeko | :P |
| 15:54.46 | Jonne_ | cables are nice, but i'm not paying extra for a nice colour. USB cable == USB cable |
| 15:55.00 | itsnotabigtruck | agreed, not sure if the blue looks so good on a cable anyway |
| 15:55.28 | Jonne_ | besides, i have the black N9, so i already have plenty of matching usb cables :p |
| 15:55.31 | ToAruShiroiNeko | USB cable? |
| 15:55.34 | ToAruShiroiNeko | you use cables? |
| 15:55.44 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I transmit data using somke signals from my phone |
| 15:55.51 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I over heat to generate smoke |
| 15:55.52 | ToAruShiroiNeko | :p |
| 15:56.24 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 15:56.24 | Jonne_ | i use them to charge my phone |
| 15:56.31 | Jonne_ | use ssh for file transfer |
| 15:56.43 | Jonne_ | over wifi |
| 15:56.50 | itsnotabigtruck | i use both the usb cable and ssh, ssh-over-usb is teh cool |
| 15:56.58 | itsnotabigtruck | mostly because the wifi provided by my apt building is garbage |
| 15:57.23 | itsnotabigtruck | but i think part of the problem is on the N9, it has overaggressive power management on the wifi |
| 15:57.35 | itsnotabigtruck | causes supremely laggy ssh even on the local lan |
| 15:57.56 | itsnotabigtruck | TMO has been down all night :/ |
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| 18:09.38 | DrGrov | Evening |
| 18:10.39 | DrGrov | Everything went well with the PR 1.2 update for the N9. But I wonder, why does the phone turn itself on when I am charging it? The power was off and on PR 1.1 it charges without powering up. |
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| 19:51.59 | jonne | finally found someone else that has google talk set up, but the call won't connect :s |
| 19:54.48 | jonne | anyone been able to make it work yet? |
| 20:04.34 | itsnotabigtruck | jonne: video or audio |
| 20:05.07 | jonne | video |
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| 20:27.58 | petteri | works fine for me |
| 20:28.06 | petteri | the gtalk video stuff |
| 20:33.21 | DrGrov | What does the video call actually help? Is it possible to make video calls to others that have video call possibility? Like to call a regular cell phone and enable video call? Or is it more of a Gtalk / Skype thing that it enables? |
| 20:34.07 | petteri | only for gtalk (probably works also with normal xmpp) |
| 20:43.22 | DrGrov | Ok, roger that. |
| 20:43.43 | DrGrov | Is it only me but I feel that PR 1.2 is running much smoother than PR 1.1 ? |
| 20:46.22 | jonne | i don't notice any difference, but then again, it's always felt smooth for me |
| 20:46.53 | jonne | i'm mostly happy about the folders, so i can dump all the apps i don't use in one folder |
| 20:47.04 | DrGrov | For me as well it has always been smooth, just a bit smoother yet. |
| 20:47.21 | DrGrov | The folders yes, good to have. I dump Twitter, FB there so I do not need to see them anymore. |
| 20:51.14 | jonne | i just noticed the twitter client won't log me in |
| 20:51.27 | jonne | it worked in pr1.1 |
| 20:51.29 | jonne | weird |
| 20:52.10 | DrGrov | Did you get any Twitter update when you updated to PR 1.2 ? |
| 20:53.20 | jonne | i don't remember, tbh |
| 20:53.31 | jonne | i updated everything that was updateable |
| 20:55.02 | DrGrov | Ok, I thought to ask since I got some minor Twitter update together with PR 1.2. |
| 20:55.17 | DrGrov | I am sure you got it as well, strange though that it does not want to log you in :/ |
| 20:55.46 | DrGrov | I love the UI tweak that makes the window fade away when closing an app :) It is so sexy |
| 20:55.48 | DrGrov | Damn, |
| 20:55.52 | DrGrov | I love it! |
| 20:56.04 | jonne | the trending topic thing also fails to load |
| 20:56.33 | jonne | host api.twitter.com not found |
| 20:56.35 | jonne | wtf |
| 20:56.43 | DrGrov | Strange, unfortunately I can not help :/ I only use Twitter on my desktop computer. |
| 20:56.47 | jonne | (comes up in terminal) |
| 20:57.05 | DrGrov | It works without problems on your computer though? |
| 20:58.58 | jonne | yes, and phone's on same wifi as computer |
| 20:59.17 | DrGrov | Damn, that is strange |
| 21:00.05 | jonne | on my dekstop browser i can actually load api.twitter.com, in firefox on the n9 i can't |
| 21:00.12 | jonne | getting somewhere here, at least |
| 21:00.28 | DrGrov | At least you are not completely shut out of Twitter :) |
| 21:00.34 | DrGrov | Some settings in Firefox perhaps? |
| 21:00.56 | DrGrov | Have you used the Drive and Maps? For me the Maps app crashes if I do not have GPS positioning turned on :D |
| 21:01.01 | jonne | i can't ping it |
| 21:01.16 | jonne | ping: bad address api.twitter.com |
| 21:01.21 | DrGrov | If I turn on GPS positioning I get both Maps and Drive to work perfect. Otherwise without GPS positioning the apps do not answer |
| 21:01.23 | jonne | never seen that |
| 21:01.40 | jonne | i've used drive |
| 21:01.49 | jonne | best GPS i've ever used |
| 21:02.01 | DrGrov | I hope it will be fixed eventually, no worries. I can always get the time to turn on GPS positioning if need. |
| 21:02.18 | DrGrov | I will try Drive tomorrow if I get the chance. |
| 21:06.40 | jonne | maybe a reboot fixes this, i can't seem to ping google either |
| 21:07.16 | DrGrov | Reboot perhaps yes could fix it. Hope it does fix it. |
| 21:08.14 | jonne | ping should work on the phone, right? |
| 21:08.31 | jonne | not sure which *nix utils i can actually rely on |
| 21:08.51 | DrGrov | I think ping should work, that should be such a standard command. |
| 21:09.30 | jonne | ping works now |
| 21:09.38 | DrGrov | Good :) |
| 21:09.42 | DrGrov | Happy to hear :) |
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| 21:10.57 | jonne | yep, works |
| 21:11.08 | jonne | maybe google video will work too now |
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| 22:31.43 | ToAruShiroiNeko | DrGrov try not to drink and gps |
| 23:22.15 | ToAruShiroiNeko | Are there sample video downloads for the N9? |
| 23:22.24 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I want to replace the video on opening |
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