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| 22:57.18 | DrGrov | Safe to leave the N9 charging over night? Even though it is fully charged quite early in the night? |
| 22:58.52 | mgedmin | I do that |
| 22:59.01 | Tronic | DrGrov: Yes, all phones have automatic charging logic. |
| 22:59.06 | DrGrov | Good, then I shall do that as well |
| 22:59.06 | mgedmin | I haven't noticed the N9 growing warm or anything |
| 22:59.14 | DrGrov | Thanks guys for the help and quick answer |
| 22:59.38 | Tronic | DrGrov: Leaving it charging for very long periods (months) might kill the battery, so avoid doing that. |
| 23:00.06 | DrGrov | Tronic: Ok, I just plan to charge it one day at a maximum but good to know |
| 23:00.08 | Tronic | (laptops at least suffer of such issues, never heard of it being a problem with phones though) |
| 23:00.20 | DrGrov | Well, I am off. Thanks again for the help. |
| 23:00.29 | Tronic | np |
| 23:00.29 | mgedmin | batteries are complicated |
| 23:00.50 | mgedmin | I've decided to stop worrying and charge my devices whenever I want |
| 23:00.52 | mgedmin | so there |
| 23:10.06 | Tronic | mgedmin: As long as you are not using Nickel batteries, there's no problem at all with doing so. |
| 23:11.04 | Tronic | Since pretty much everything uses lithium nowadays, that's one less thing you need to worry about. |
| 23:12.02 | Tronic | (except if you use rechargeable AA or other such cells which still are NiMH because Li-ion has too high per-cell voltage) |
| 23:12.54 | jonne__ | incredible how much all that old advice still floats around while tech changed completely |
| 23:16.31 | mgedmin | oh yes |
| 23:17.28 | mgedmin | I think I still remember "NiMH batteries do not suffer from the 'memory effect' of the older NiCad batteries" followed by "LiIon batteries do not suffer from the 'memory effect' of the older NiMH batteries" a few years later |
| 23:21.14 | Tronic | mgedmin: I think the deal was that NiMH would suffer of memory effect that could be reversed by doing a few proper recharge cycles, where NiCd could not be recovered this way. |
| 23:22.20 | jonne__ | so Li-ion is just x amount of charge cycles in a lifetime, no matter how you use it? |
| 23:22.32 | jonne__ | with gradual degradation |
| 23:22.42 | Tronic | It is somewhat unfortunate that the 18650 cells are not available/used in EU, so most people still use flashlights and other power-hungry devices that run on AA/C/D cells. |
| 23:23.22 | jonne__ | never hear of 18650 cells |
| 23:23.57 | jonne__ | *heard |
| 23:24.00 | Tronic | 18650 have 3.6 V nominal voltage, they can supply very high currents and they are always(?) rechargeable Li-ion. |
| 23:24.23 | jonne__ | oh, i guess rechargable Li-ion batteries in AA/whatever form factor |
| 23:24.35 | Tronic | http://www.dealextreme.com/p/digital-li-ion-18650-battery-charger-6105 |
| 23:24.47 | Tronic | Apparently those are popular in Far East. |
| 23:24.52 | jonne__ | that's a horrible product name, btw |
| 23:25.10 | Tronic | UltraFire, you mean? |
| 23:25.50 | jonne__ | 18650 |
| 23:27.30 | Tronic | It's not a product name but the technical name of the cell. I guess it would sense to name it "E" or something else that people will be able to remember :) |
| 23:28.25 | Tronic | AA cells are also LR6 by technical name. |
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