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| 12:25.04 | damaltor | yay |
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| 12:37.52 | Tuju | any idea why n9 addressbook doesn't work? it hangs constantly i'm setting up this phone for a person who doesn't understand anything about it and it kind of sucks if you can't save any contacts. |
| 12:38.23 | petteri | did you import addresses from iphone? |
| 12:38.32 | Tuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.03 | phako | did you change language to finnish recently? |
| 12:39.18 | Tuju | petteri: no, it's completely empty. |
| 12:39.37 | Tuju | yes, but device is new, it has been powered on only few times for setting it up. |
| 12:39.50 | Tuju | well, i chose the lang when i started it up first time. |
| 12:40.06 | petteri | maybe the filesystem is readonly, can you set anything else? |
| 12:40.09 | Tuju | sometimes it says that addressbook is not responding, 'should it be killed?' |
| 12:40.09 | phako | Tuju: right. I'd leave it set powered for ~15minutes and wait |
| 12:40.22 | phako | phako: and then try again. |
| 12:40.25 | phako | er Tuju |
| 12:40.33 | Tuju | petteri: i've set up the email and that works. |
| 12:41.06 | Tuju | but if i wait that hanging addressbook, it becomes responsive again later. then i can press + and fill in the fields. |
| 12:41.56 | petteri | probably best to wait for some time, maybe it is indexing emails or something |
| 12:43.06 | Tuju | and yes, i don't have sim card installed on it. |
| 12:43.14 | Tuju | maybe it's trying to access it? |
| 12:43.44 | petteri | trying to save the contact so sim? |
| 12:43.57 | Tuju | don't even know how. :) |
| 12:44.06 | Tuju | it only has 'contacts' |
| 12:44.09 | Tuju | nuting else. |
| 12:44.29 | petteri | could be |
| 12:51.54 | Tuju | yep, i think it must be the lack of sim card. |
| 13:10.34 | damaltor | Tuju, petteri: lack of sim card is no problem |
| 13:11.03 | damaltor | contacts will be stored in the phones memory, if you do not explicitly move them to sim later |
| 13:11.08 | itsnotabigtruck | hm, weird, admiral0 isn't on yet |
| 13:11.31 | damaltor | in fact, the phone is fully usuable w/o sim card, as long as you do not want to call someone |
| 13:12.02 | damaltor | did you reboot it? |
| 13:12.37 | damaltor | otherwise, i would go for a reflash of the software as long as it is new, so there is not mch data getting destryed. most data should stay there after reflashing anyway |
| 13:17.05 | itsnotabigtruck | since the phone probably shipped with pr1.0 you might as well update while you're at it ^ tuju |
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| 14:40.41 | twitergal | Hi |
| 14:40.50 | twitergal | anyone know where can i download N9 transparent icon? |
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| 14:48.05 | Tuju | damaltor: i rebooted it many times, it always hanged regardless of that. |
| 14:48.28 | damaltor | Tuju: which software version do you have installed? |
| 14:48.42 | Tuju | itsnotabigtruck: it's the latest firmware, i checked that when got it as first thing. |
| 14:54.23 | sp3000 | what's the latest ;) |
| 14:55.16 | sp3000 | (sorry, experience suggests systematic distrust of the word "latest" is worthwhile) |
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| 14:56.49 | Tuju | i asked that couple days ago and checked it, it's the latest. |
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| 15:12.33 | twitergal | guyssssssssssss |
| 15:12.42 | twitergal | i need n9 svg original icon |
| 15:12.50 | twitergal | i needed it to create icons |
| 15:12.59 | twitergal | anyone have any idea where i can get it? |
| 15:38.18 | itsnotabigtruck | Tuju: for reference, 'latest'is currently PR1.1 |
| 15:38.25 | itsnotabigtruck | it'll become PR1.2 in a few weeks |
| 15:38.55 | Tuju | yes. |
| 15:38.57 | damaltor | twiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiterrrrrrrrrgallllllllllllllll: learn 2 type. also, n9 icons are in png format and can be extracted from your nokia n9. |
| 15:39.16 | itsnotabigtruck | hehe damaltor |
| 15:40.20 | Tuju | that is going to be a problem when i'm sending that device with UPS to another country and then i'm told that 'contants doesn't work'. |
| 15:43.17 | damaltor | Tuju: i would still say, reflash. if that does not help, there is something seriously wrong with the hardware. |
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| 15:48.22 | Tuju | maybe i try to find a sim somewhere, i've spent hours to configure it. |
| 15:51.37 | twitergal | damaltor is the png transparent? |
| 15:54.05 | damaltor | Tuju: i can tell you, that wothout sim you can easily manage your contacts |
| 15:54.21 | damaltor | i have the device in front of me, removed the sim, and can flawlessly add/delete/change contacts |
| 15:54.48 | twitergal | i need the background to be transparent, but the one in n9 device is with background color |
| 15:54.49 | damaltor | i can actually do whatever i want, i can even use skype to call the contacts i just entered while i am in wifi |
| 15:54.49 | Tuju | damaltor: maybe it cannot create some database at first time, since it has never worked. |
| 15:54.54 | twitergal | any soloution please damaltor |
| 15:54.56 | Tuju | it's new device. |
| 15:55.21 | sp3000 | just the contacts app hanging (how many minutes?) or more? |
| 15:55.25 | damaltor | Tuju: it MUST work w/o sim, from the start on. i used it for 3 days while waiting for a micro sim |
| 15:55.37 | sp3000 | how many contacts, what sort of manipulations are you doing on them? |
| 15:55.54 | damaltor | twitergal: the pngs on the n9 have a background? are you sure? also, why dont you just convert them? |
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| 15:57.04 | twitergal | damaltor, can you send me the n9 default png please? |
| 15:57.05 | damaltor | twitergal: the icons on my n9 do not have a background. i have a wallpaprer on my home screen, so i can see that there is no black fram around the icons |
| 15:59.11 | twitergal | are you referring to meego icon? there should be a background color.. like for dailer the background is green, contact is blue.. |
| 15:59.16 | twitergal | and the logo itself is white.. |
| 15:59.29 | twitergal | i only want to have the white logo.. so i can change to background color |
| 15:59.29 | sp3000 | fwiw https://www.google.com/search?q=n9+png+transparent&tbm=isch does have transparent things at the top |
| 15:59.57 | sp3000 | (that are on the large side so should scale down to something useful) |
| 16:00.00 | damaltor | so you want to remove e.g. the green box and only keep the little phone in it? |
| 16:00.16 | twitergal | yea.. so i can change to any color i like |
| 16:00.44 | damaltor | if you use some sort of graphics program, you could just replace the green with the color of your choice. then you would still have the effect that the background is bright (top) to dark (bottom) |
| 16:00.45 | twitergal | nokia has provide the defaul svg symbian icon.. with no backgorund color |
| 16:00.49 | twitergal | but i cant find it for n9 |
| 16:02.12 | Tuju | if i try to add a contact, then kill addressbook in the middle of it without saving (it doesn't work), and open the addressbook again - it pops up the same ongoing edited card as i just killed. |
| 16:02.29 | Tuju | meaning that killing that addressbook just closes the dialog, doesn't stop the process. |
| 16:04.54 | damaltor | Tuju: if you rebooted, all processes will be killed of course. if it still does not work, there must be something wrong with the software. |
| 16:05.26 | damaltor | Tuju: as "clearing all data" does in fact only delete some random stuff, i guess you will not be able to go around reflashing. |
| 16:05.35 | Tuju | surprisingly i meant killing the running program after restart. |
| 16:06.22 | damaltor | but reflashing is not that bad actually, it is easy, hard to mess up, it just takes some time to download 1 gb of data (if you want only reset the filesystem) or ~1.3 gb of data (if you want to make the phone new as it was in package. |
| 16:07.06 | damaltor | twitergal: i havent seen the icons around in the net, though there are lots of icon sets.. ill try to find some, otherwise i try to extract them from my n9 |
| 16:07.47 | twitergal | but they do not have transparent background do they? i have been searching for hours on the net |
| 16:09.03 | damaltor | twitergal: no they dont, as the icons have the said boxes around them |
| 16:09.09 | damaltor | what graphics program are you using? |
| 16:09.29 | twitergal | photoshop |
| 16:09.32 | twitergal | adobe |
| 16:11.28 | damaltor | twitergal: then why the heck do you need transparent backgrounds? |
| 16:11.46 | damaltor | just tell photoshop to replace "green" by "pink", and you will have the same icon with a pink bg |
| 16:12.37 | twitergal | i have a different photoshop tamplate, which the design is slightly different from the original N9 |
| 16:13.17 | damaltor | well, i can gove you the original icons |
| 16:13.42 | Tuju | damaltor: it's bad, i probably spent more work hours to configure that device than it costed. |
| 16:14.02 | damaltor | Tuju: if you only reflash the filesystem, everything will be kept |
| 16:14.15 | damaltor | but maybe the contacts program will be repaired |
| 16:14.24 | Tuju | where the everything is stored then? |
| 16:14.31 | damaltor | on the so-called "emmc" |
| 16:14.34 | twitergal | original? you mean the one with solid color background? |
| 16:14.41 | damaltor | twitergal: yes |
| 16:15.01 | damaltor | Tuju: everything is in the user space, wich is the 16 or 64gb of storage space |
| 16:15.22 | Tuju | sim contacts work just fine. |
| 16:15.47 | damaltor | Tuju: you will _maybe_ have to delete and reconfigure email services though, at least i did so. but all data and all contacts and stuff was still there |
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| 16:16.26 | damaltor | but in your case it might also be that the contacts database is corrupted, and therefore cannot be written anymore. then reflashing only the filesystem would not help, as the contacts database is not touched |
| 16:16.27 | Tuju | can't i open some shell and remove any contacts database file ? |
| 16:16.50 | damaltor | Tuju: enable the developer mode, then there is a shell on your apps screen |
| 16:16.54 | Tuju | and how i become root? |
| 16:16.59 | damaltor | or you could get to a shell via ssh |
| 16:17.12 | damaltor | if you opened the shell, type "devel-su" |
| 16:17.19 | damaltor | the root password is "rootme" |
| 16:17.27 | Tuju | hmm... |
| 16:17.49 | Tuju | so if i just ssh over wifi? |
| 16:18.02 | damaltor | would work. but you have to enable developer mode first |
| 16:18.20 | damaltor | if that is done, tell me, i can guide you into the ssh shell thingy |
| 16:18.30 | Tuju | how do i enable that? |
| 16:18.50 | damaltor | settings->security-> deveoper mode |
| 16:19.01 | damaltor | klick the switch in the first line, and wait for a while |
| 16:19.28 | damaltor | you can switch the dev mode off later, too |
| 16:19.39 | Tuju | found it |
| 16:19.46 | damaltor | it will download some packages |
| 16:19.53 | damaltor | and then probably reboot |
| 16:19.59 | Tuju | yep |
| 16:21.09 | twitergal | thanks damultor. appreciate your help, but i need a transparent 1.. don't think i can find it anywhere.. nokia did not release it |
| 16:21.30 | Tuju | where the contacts database is located? |
| 16:21.39 | damaltor | no they didnt release them, because there ARE NONE |
| 16:21.56 | damaltor | the n9 simply does not have transparent icons, so why should they be made extra? |
| 16:22.24 | damaltor | but, if you can work with photoshop, you dont need them also, als you can siply replace the background with any color you like |
| 16:22.35 | damaltor | or, if you want, you could even make them transparent |
| 16:22.45 | damaltor | Tuju: i have to look that up, too |
| 16:22.53 | damaltor | is the dev mode enabled now? |
| 16:24.17 | Tuju | yes, i'm root |
| 16:24.31 | Tuju | rootme is not working via wifi |
| 16:25.31 | damaltor | no, root is not permitted to log in |
| 16:25.45 | damaltor | if you want to ssh, i can tell you how if you are interested |
| 16:29.33 | damaltor | Tuju: you still there? |
| 16:29.38 | Tuju | yes |
| 16:29.45 | damaltor | do you want to use ssh? |
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| 16:37.39 | damaltor | Tuju: also, i found the database for the contacts |
| 16:38.18 | Tuju | where is it? |
| 16:38.41 | damaltor | first, you HAVE TO be the user "user" on your n9, "root" will not work |
| 16:39.02 | damaltor | thisis because of some weird restriction not letting root touch anything inside /home |
| 16:39.18 | damaltor | second, the database is in /home/user/.contacts |
| 16:39.42 | damaltor | it is a tracker database so you will be able to work on it with the tracker-* commands |
| 16:41.26 | Tuju | tracker-stats hangs too |
| 16:42.02 | Tuju | in my other n9 it works |
| 16:42.15 | damaltor | you could simply use "tracker-control -r" |
| 16:42.50 | Tuju | now it says that could not establish a connection to tracker throught messagebus |
| 16:42.50 | damaltor | but that would also remove all contacts and messages and force a reload of media database on next start of gallery / music player |
| 16:44.16 | Tuju | now it works. |
| 16:44.18 | Tuju | great. |
| 16:44.41 | damaltor | btw, did you try out settings -> reset -> settings? |
| 16:44.51 | damaltor | that _should_ rebuild the tracker databases too |
| 16:45.05 | damaltor | but would also mess up some of your setting si gues |
| 16:45.47 | Tuju | no |
| 16:45.59 | Tuju | but that worked just fine. thanks damaltor, great help. |
| 16:46.12 | damaltor | so so your contacts work now? |
| 16:47.00 | Tuju | yep, just create a big one. |
| 16:47.17 | damaltor | so, what did the trick now? |
| 16:47.50 | Tuju | that -r |
| 16:48.00 | damaltor | ok good |
| 16:48.13 | damaltor | if you had any sms on your phone, they will be gone now though |
| 16:48.39 | damaltor | also i recommend starting the gallery and the music player app, as they will take a quite long time for reindexing ther database now |
| 16:49.32 | Tuju | yep |
| 16:52.13 | Tuju | now she will be happy. thanks again. i need to pack the device and continue working. |
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| 16:54.28 | damaltor | twitergal: did you manage to change your icons now? |
| 16:56.14 | twitergal | nope. |
| 16:56.16 | twitergal | im tired |
| 16:57.36 | damaltor | :D |
| 17:02.48 | damaltor | twitergal: do you want a special color for that icon? |
| 17:03.07 | damaltor | i just opened the icon with the phone on it and can replaye the color if you want |
| 17:05.39 | twitergal | no. i dun feel like doing anything for now |
| 17:06.07 | damaltor | ok then, that was just an offer |
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