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| 05:34.55 | seimei | anyone knows how to download in ovi store in paid apps |
| 05:35.35 | seimei | i wanted to buy something but it doesnt show at the phone,using pc i can see it available and have price on our currency |
| 05:36.08 | seimei | when i ask for link from ovi thru sms and received it,after accessing the link it says not available when it is |
| 06:25.56 | jonni | usually that means that your network connection is having problems or your behind nat |
| 06:27.19 | jonni | I've usually solved that problem by switching to non natted wifi, or using 3g directly. Or if it doesnt show in phone then the app is not available for your region / variant. |
| 06:35.45 | jonni | (as app developer can choose which countries the app is available, and can block specific countries if he/she wants to). Like I have my app available in every country expect one which I banned after an abuse. |
| 07:06.17 | DocScrutinizer | un-NATded WIFI? WOW |
| 07:07.30 | DocScrutinizer | here in Germany 90% of users can't even have non-NATed DSL, no matter what's the LAN technology |
| 07:07.54 | DocScrutinizer | so OVI seems really cool stuff |
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| 07:10.28 | jonni | DocScrutinizer: I meant that it does for on nat wifi, but in my home I have nat wifi which has another nat wifi in it, and for that it doesnt work :) |
| 07:10.44 | jonni | double nat seems difficult :) |
| 07:12.17 | DocScrutinizer | err yes. NAT behind NAT is sometimes a bit tricky, esp when the device/app thinks uPnP was a legit way to deal with NAT |
| 07:12.20 | jonni | but might be that cheap wifi boxes just messes up the routing |
| 07:13.01 | DocScrutinizer | e.g. STUN *should* deal with multilevel NAT |
| 07:13.14 | DocScrutinizer | uPNP obviously can't |
| 07:13.39 | DocScrutinizer | most 3G services are NATed as well |
| 07:16.01 | virtuald | am i correct that stun doesn't work with randomised source ports? |
| 07:16.15 | DocScrutinizer | shouldn't matter |
| 07:16.27 | virtuald | really? |
| 07:16.34 | DocScrutinizer | AIUI not |
| 07:16.47 | virtuald | wikis down ;) |
| 07:17.02 | DocScrutinizer | after all STUN been designed to deal with most nasty NAT concepts |
| 07:17.29 | virtuald | mhm |
| 07:17.50 | DocScrutinizer | NAT should BEHAVE though, some don't |
| 07:17.58 | seimei | aw... sorry i was busy i called nokia care |
| 07:18.10 | seimei | yeah im on nat wifi |
| 07:18.33 | seimei | im using my computers net as wifi |
| 07:19.05 | DocScrutinizer | http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4787.txt |
| 07:19.09 | seimei | its on nat cause im using 4g wimax and its not cheap just saying lol,but yeah gave me lotsa problem even in irc |
| 07:19.48 | seimei | im impress u knew im using one,im noob in terms of networki connection stuffs |
| 07:20.34 | DocScrutinizer | seimei: everybody has NAT :-D |
| 07:20.53 | DocScrutinizer | virtually |
| 07:21.01 | seimei | really?A |
| 07:21.09 | seimei | my old dsl isnt |
| 07:21.41 | DocScrutinizer | well, has to be very old and cheap DSL then |
| 07:22.04 | seimei | or mayeb im wrong im confuse lol,i kinda know everyone has nat,but i know this 4g wimax im using uses nat gateway |
| 07:22.16 | DocScrutinizer | last few years I've not seen a single carrier offering "modem" without router/NAT for their DSL service |
| 07:22.21 | seimei | but my old kinda dont use nat gateway |
| 07:22.38 | seimei | its cable base |
| 07:22.58 | DocScrutinizer | oooh, application gateway on NAT? |
| 07:23.16 | DocScrutinizer | those are frequently broken to the bones |
| 07:23.34 | seimei | aw... so nat is different from nat gateway |
| 07:24.06 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, to be honest "nat gateway" is no precisely defined term |
| 07:24.10 | DocScrutinizer | for all I know |
| 07:24.11 | seimei | darn i really slept trhu my networking classes |
| 07:24.33 | seimei | well thats what my isp told me and i didnt bother lolx |
| 07:25.00 | DocScrutinizer | there's ALG == Application Layer Gateway implementing special handling for e.g. VoIP traffic on NAT - basically a transparent proxy |
| 07:25.29 | DocScrutinizer | and there are several classes of NAT |
| 07:25.42 | DocScrutinizer | see RFC I linked above |
| 07:26.17 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, cya |
| 07:26.23 | DocScrutinizer | afk |
| 07:32.59 | seimei | ok thx dude |
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| 15:37.15 | damaltor | hiho |
| 15:37.49 | damaltor | is there a way to hide icq/skype/... contacts in the normal contacts app __by default__ and not only by klicking the menu everytime? |
| 15:39.20 | kevin_b | damaltor : good idea, you should check harmattan bugs reports to add it in case it's not present |
| 15:40.35 | damaltor | i nw i can hide them temporarily by klicking menu>show>phonebook (or something similar, i have a german phone here), but i would like to hide them until i really want to see them, as my icq list clutters up the phone book a lot |
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| 16:38.51 | marsje | damaltor: I have the same problem... my skype, msn and gtalk lists contains a lot of people and most are irrelevant |
| 16:39.30 | damaltor | yeah i know. thats crap, and it should be changed |
| 16:39.35 | damaltor | maybe some checkbox list |
| 16:39.39 | Crnkoj | post it to the bugtracker |
| 16:39.51 | Crnkoj | hey gusy btw is there an app for dropbox or box for the n9/meego ? |
| 16:39.57 | damaltor | "show only []skype []icq []normal phone book"... |
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| 17:11.03 | damaltor | Crnkoj: yeah. it is called dropn9 and can be loaded for free from ovi store on your phone. |
| 17:13.22 | phako | damaltor: I would try filing a bug for the contacts stuff, but wouldn't keep high hopes on it |
| 17:14.11 | Crnkoj | damaltor thanks found it |
| 17:14.32 | damaltor | actually, my hopes are so small that i m not motivated enough to even register on the bugtracker |
| 17:14.37 | damaltor | Crnkoj: np |
| 17:14.55 | Crnkoj | damaltor any other useful apps to have on the n9 ? |
| 17:15.09 | Crnkoj | i have this battery thing thats for free and that filemanager |
| 17:15.15 | Crnkoj | anything thats free and good suggetable ? |
| 17:15.47 | mgedmin | Crnkoj, MeeScan |
| 17:15.59 | mgedmin | DropN9, maybe, if you use Dropbox |
| 17:16.32 | mgedmin | MeeScreenshot, perhaps |
| 17:16.34 | damaltor | Crnkoj: if you like games, try "stack the stuff" |
| 17:16.39 | mgedmin | Compass? |
| 17:16.40 | Crnkoj | ye i installed dropn9 |
| 17:17.01 | mgedmin | looking at my other installed apps I don't see anything particularly worthwhile |
| 17:17.03 | Crnkoj | i installed cloudgps |
| 17:17.07 | mgedmin | File Manager Beta? |
| 17:17.07 | Crnkoj | seems ok |
| 17:17.17 | Crnkoj | i have filebox is fm beta preferable ? |
| 17:18.00 | damaltor | filebox can unzip archives, fm beta looks nicer |
| 17:18.20 | Crnkoj | oh than i prefre one with better functionality :D and it looks decent enough for me |
| 17:18.39 | damaltor | i have meescan as one of the most important apps, together with the simple barcoder plugin for my desktop firefox |
| 17:18.58 | damaltor | also you might want to check out rscmonitor, a ressource monitor |
| 17:19.11 | Crnkoj | damaltor may i ask what you use the meescan for, i checked what it is but i never need or use that functionality :) |
| 17:19.12 | damaltor | "campass", if you need a... compass |
| 17:19.17 | Crnkoj | ok thanks |
| 17:20.01 | damaltor | Crnkoj: if you find a 2d barcode somewhere, you can read it. e.g. if i find a nice app while i am on my pc, i let firefox display the barcode using the barcoder addon, and scan it with my mobile to open the exact same site on the phone |
| 17:20.32 | Crnkoj | ah oko |
| 17:20.33 | Crnkoj | true |
| 17:20.36 | Crnkoj | i coem from android |
| 17:20.40 | Crnkoj | i jsut click install ont he market :) |
| 17:21.12 | damaltor | phonetorch, to use the flash as torch. live view (can get that from nikoa beta labs) lets you look through your phones camera viewfinder, while showing POIs (eg next bus stop, next gas station and stuff) |
| 17:21.31 | Crnkoj | oh nice |
| 17:22.09 | damaltor | also you might want to install the beta of firefox for meego. the latest usuable version is 11, version 12 is out but does not work at all. you have to install firefox by hand though, after enabling (and understanding) developer mode |
| 17:22.27 | Crnkoj | oh ye |
| 17:22.41 | Crnkoj | i know my way around linux (by now lol) but wont enable dev mode yet |
| 17:22.48 | Crnkoj | might be getting an exchange phone |
| 17:22.48 | Crnkoj | so |
| 17:23.52 | damaltor | ah ok |
| 17:24.11 | damaltor | firefox ist A LOT better then the stock browser (wich will get updated hopefully soon though) |
| 17:24.15 | Crnkoj | but ye |
| 17:24.33 | Crnkoj | whats so preferable in ff to the stock browser? (just asking havent used the stock much yet) |
| 17:24.39 | damaltor | copy and paste |
| 17:24.52 | damaltor | addons like on the "real" firefox (eg adblock plus) |
| 17:25.02 | damaltor | bookmark syncing between phone and pc |
| 17:25.07 | damaltor | tabbed browsing |
| 17:25.20 | damaltor | usable in all 4 (!!) display orientations |
| 17:25.37 | Crnkoj | oh |
| 17:25.40 | Crnkoj | tabs are nice yes |
| 17:25.48 | Crnkoj | ive seen the browser in android 4.0 |
| 17:25.52 | damaltor | text reflowing if you zoom in by double clicking on a paragraph, it will be reflowed to make it perfectly readable without scrolling around |
| 17:25.59 | Crnkoj | it is way mroe useful than teh one in pre ics versions |
| 17:26.04 | Crnkoj | aha nice |
| 17:26.07 | damaltor | can download every file type |
| 17:26.21 | Crnkoj | oh i see |
| 17:26.24 | Crnkoj | many issues lol |
| 17:26.25 | damaltor | it feels a bit faster |
| 17:26.32 | damaltor | might be my thinking though |
| 17:26.42 | damaltor | and probably a bunch more i forgit |
| 17:26.59 | damaltor | also, you can close it, and reopen the tabs from last time again after starting it |
| 17:26.59 | mgedmin | damaltor, link to firefox for n9? |
| 17:27.19 | Crnkoj | cool thanks for the info |
| 17:27.30 | Crnkoj | btw how many apps can one have open for it to still work fine? |
| 17:27.58 | damaltor | mgedmin: http://www.nokiatek.com/ , somewhere in there. v12 is found there too, but there really is no need to try it as is will just let your screen flicker. use v11 |
| 17:28.15 | damaltor | Crnkoj: depends on the apps |
| 17:28.17 | Crnkoj | because one can obviously see no lag if going to an already open app as compared to starting one new which has a tad startup lag |
| 17:28.21 | Crnkoj | ye i know |
| 17:28.23 | Crnkoj | but generally |
| 17:28.24 | Crnkoj | lets say |
| 17:28.30 | Crnkoj | phone mail messaging browser battery app |
| 17:28.35 | damaltor | if you have multiple hd games, it will be much more as if you have some text files open |
| 17:28.52 | mgedmin | seems to be http://www.nokiatek.com/?p=434 |
| 17:28.55 | damaltor | also, the more apps open, the more battery drain |
| 17:29.18 | damaltor | firefox takes a while (5-6 secs) to start, but consumes quite a bit of battery if left in background |
| 17:29.29 | Crnkoj | ow wait |
| 17:29.36 | damaltor | mgedmin: yes |
| 17:29.47 | Crnkoj | why does battery get drained in standby if the apps are only in ram and not doing anything else ? |
| 17:30.05 | damaltor | because they are not sleeping |
| 17:30.20 | damaltor | this is real multitasking, every app does still work (if it wants) |
| 17:30.25 | damaltor | they are not frozen |
| 17:30.34 | mgedmin | iow naughty apps are badly written |
| 17:30.44 | damaltor | you could open firefox, load a huge site, and meanwhile do something else |
| 17:31.03 | Crnkoj | oh ye |
| 17:31.05 | Crnkoj | i get that |
| 17:31.09 | Crnkoj | hmm |
| 17:31.13 | Crnkoj | so one should not have many apps open |
| 17:31.33 | mgedmin | unless they're good apps and do nothing when they're in the background |
| 17:31.39 | Crnkoj | in regards to battery life |
| 17:31.40 | damaltor | well.. i personally use to close nearly everything. but thats more like a personal preference |
| 17:31.41 | Crnkoj | aha ye |
| 17:31.47 | Crnkoj | ye im doing that too kinda |
| 17:31.55 | damaltor | if you charge every evening, it probably doesnt really matter |
| 17:31.57 | mgedmin | oh, also you might run out of ram if you've too many apps |
| 17:32.00 | Crnkoj | but maybe mail sms and phone app could be open ? |
| 17:32.05 | Crnkoj | mgedmin ye i know that lol |
| 17:32.15 | mgedmin | though on the n9 that's more difficult than it was on the n900 |
| 17:32.20 | damaltor | true |
| 17:32.40 | mgedmin | I managed once (by having a 1000-page pdf full of scanned book pages, a few websites etc.) |
| 17:32.47 | Crnkoj | lol |
| 17:32.48 | Crnkoj | ok |
| 17:32.52 | Crnkoj | what papens than |
| 17:33.11 | Crnkoj | it is annoying that you cant do landscape while searcing in the ovi store lol |
| 17:33.36 | damaltor | i managed to have landscape mode on my homescreen now. thats nice |
| 17:33.40 | Crnkoj | is there a way to make the keys on the keyboard higher ? |
| 17:33.46 | Crnkoj | ye thers some hack or app for it |
| 17:33.48 | Crnkoj | i saw |
| 17:33.49 | damaltor | but requires messing with the theme files in dev mde |
| 17:34.10 | mgedmin | hellooo browser why you stopped repainting? |
| 17:34.22 | mgedmin | did you notice I was trying to download fennec and became jealous? |
| 17:34.26 | damaltor | there probaly is a way to make them higher. but if there is one, then also only "by hand" in dev mode, there is no way in the settings |
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| 17:35.15 | mgedmin | yay I cannot add bookmarks when the browser daemon is broken: the UI waits for a thumbnail it never gets |
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| 17:35.21 | mgedmin | *headdesk* |
| 17:35.38 | Crnkoj | lol |
| 17:35.39 | Crnkoj | i installed |
| 17:35.46 | Crnkoj | that resource monitor |
| 17:35.53 | Crnkoj | and it tells me i have 97% system memory used |
| 17:35.54 | Crnkoj | lol |
| 17:36.08 | mgedmin | that's normal |
| 17:36.20 | Crnkoj | ah ok |
| 17:36.27 | mgedmin | it's either disk cache or virtual memory of all the built-in prestarted applications |
| 17:36.40 | Crnkoj | aha |
| 17:36.43 | Crnkoj | sick |
| 17:36.52 | Crnkoj | they shoudlve made the phone with a dualcore cpu and 2gb ram! |
| 17:36.59 | mgedmin | next year |
| 17:37.08 | mgedmin | (but it won't be maemo/meego :( :( :() |
| 17:37.33 | Crnkoj | ye lol |
| 17:37.34 | Crnkoj | so sad |
| 17:37.46 | Crnkoj | ill try to get meego to work on a motorola atrix (tegra2 with 1gb ram) |
| 17:37.52 | Crnkoj | people got it to work with trimslice |
| 17:37.54 | Crnkoj | but hehe |
| 17:37.58 | Crnkoj | this might be a hard one to crack lol |
| 17:45.45 | damaltor | Crnkoj: thats usual for most linux systems. if you had 2 gb of ram, they would be fill too. only android doesnt like to handle like that, probably because most consumers think it is an error |
| 17:46.20 | damaltor | but in fact, the OS preloads stuff so that when you start an app, at least a part of it already is in ram and loading times are shorter |
| 17:46.37 | Crnkoj | damaltor ye i know |
| 17:47.00 | Crnkoj | but lets say on my linux pcs running gentoo and be it lxde or gnome3 i never have so much ram usage :) |
| 17:47.08 | Crnkoj | in idle that is |
| 17:47.20 | Crnkoj | its something else if i start emerging/compiling new stuff :D |
| 17:48.34 | damaltor | yeah. my desktop pc has 6 gb of ram, and 1.5 are full atm. thats not much, but i also am only running firefox, xchat and pidgin, so there must be quite a lot uf stuff in there |
| 17:49.22 | Crnkoj | ye |
| 17:49.31 | Crnkoj | firefox/chromium (generally browsers) take so much ram lol |
| 17:49.52 | damaltor | kevin_b, marsje, phako, Crnkoj: feel free to vote: https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668 |
| 17:50.07 | Crnkoj | i have to create an account |
| 17:50.13 | Crnkoj | what are we voting for? no SOPA? :D |
| 17:50.52 | damaltor | no, voting for a filter in contacts app as described earlier |
| 17:50.54 | Crnkoj | seems a reasonable bug ill create an account and vote :D |
| 17:53.53 | damaltor | nice |
| 17:54.09 | Crnkoj | ye |
| 17:54.11 | Crnkoj | i have to say |
| 17:54.15 | Crnkoj | android is junk compared to meego |
| 17:54.23 | Crnkoj | sadly intel/nokia didnt manage to pull it off |
| 17:54.24 | damaltor | true words (imho). |
| 17:54.37 | Crnkoj | thats the only reason why i got me a n9 |
| 17:54.40 | damaltor | i am a linux user for ages, but i never could like android somehow |
| 17:54.43 | Crnkoj | because i love how the os works |
| 17:54.50 | damaltor | but i love meego from the first day |
| 17:55.15 | Crnkoj | i have to say though |
| 17:55.28 | Crnkoj | ics/4.0 fixed several very annoying things from older android versions |
| 17:55.33 | Crnkoj | as for one the hw acceleration lol |
| 17:56.17 | Crnkoj | and better multitasking |
| 17:56.22 | Crnkoj | still i love these gestures in meego |
| 17:56.55 | Crnkoj | damaltor stupid question but how do i vote for it thers so many options |
| 17:57.03 | admiral0 | vote for widgets in homescreen https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584 |
| 17:57.22 | damaltor | yeah. but i didnt like that there was no "real" way for the community to make full updates/alternative os/... like for example meego community edidtion. also, the n900 still gets community updates all the time. android phones usually get two updates, maybe two, and then nobody cares about them anymore |
| 17:57.48 | Crnkoj | damaltor luckily for android there is cyanogenmod |
| 17:57.52 | damaltor | i have no idea how to vote lol |
| 17:57.54 | Crnkoj | running cm 7.2 on the atrix right now |
| 17:58.01 | Crnkoj | ye lol its confusing |
| 17:58.02 | Crnkoj | haha |
| 17:58.11 | Crnkoj | anyhow sadly for ICS there are no hw drivers for tegra2 yet |
| 17:58.13 | Crnkoj | =/ |
| 17:58.31 | damaltor | admiral0: tell us how to vote! |
| 17:58.47 | admiral0 | well |
| 17:58.48 | Crnkoj | what importance shoudl i make lol |
| 17:58.50 | admiral0 | log in |
| 17:58.56 | damaltor | done |
| 17:59.00 | admiral0 | search for vote link |
| 17:59.11 | damaltor | ookay thats the point we are on now |
| 17:59.23 | damaltor | yeah there it is |
| 17:59.31 | Crnkoj | ye but |
| 17:59.33 | Crnkoj | its like importance |
| 17:59.34 | Crnkoj | and so on |
| 17:59.35 | Crnkoj | to be done |
| 17:59.45 | admiral0 | yes |
| 17:59.49 | damaltor | well, select how high you think the priority is then |
| 17:59.51 | admiral0 | there is Importance |
| 17:59.52 | Crnkoj | oh ok |
| 17:59.58 | Crnkoj | i just clicked on teh (vote) and it seemed to work |
| 18:00.01 | admiral0 | there is a link with votes |
| 18:00.04 | damaltor | admiral0: also, would you like to vote here "in return"? :D |
| 18:00.05 | Crnkoj | i did it like enhancement |
| 18:00.15 | admiral0 | check the checkbox(yo dawg) |
| 18:00.19 | admiral0 | click vote |
| 18:00.21 | damaltor | https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668 |
| 18:00.29 | admiral0 | damaltor: already done |
| 18:00.37 | Crnkoj | ye lol |
| 18:00.48 | Crnkoj | k voted for yours damaltor |
| 18:00.51 | Crnkoj | now for admirals |
| 18:00.55 | admiral0 | :) |
| 18:00.58 | damaltor | :) |
| 18:01.01 | Crnkoj | guys we had a discussion yday with a few |
| 18:01.03 | damaltor | ok, votes done |
| 18:01.10 | Crnkoj | it seems thers a bug in the software how to limit white from the rest |
| 18:01.12 | admiral0 | i am in talks with nokians to implement 584 myself |
| 18:01.20 | Crnkoj | so it makes this redish line at the side of white windows |
| 18:01.24 | admiral0 | if i can achieve that -> valhalla |
| 18:02.04 | damaltor | would be nice |
| 18:04.26 | Crnkoj | ye voted for both of yours |
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| 19:37.24 | marsje | damaltor: I'm creating a account so I can vote for your bugs. Thanks for filing :) |
| 19:38.42 | damaltor | thanks for voting :) |
| 19:40.43 | marsje | done |
| 19:41.01 | marsje | does anyone at nokia care about feature requests? |
| 19:41.10 | marsje | just wondering.. |
| 19:48.49 | damaltor | they do i guess. they even give ew phones to the best ideas |
| 19:49.41 | damaltor | http://www.ideasproject.com/community/en/treasury/n9?view=overview |
| 19:49.47 | Crnkoj | ew phones ? |
| 19:49.55 | damaltor | read that link :D |
| 19:50.26 | Crnkoj | ye reading |
| 19:50.27 | Crnkoj | lol |
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| 20:29.27 | itsnotabigtruck | damaltor: that was a marketing stunt |
| 20:29.42 | itsnotabigtruck | marsje damaltor: no company cares about feature requests |
| 20:30.03 | itsnotabigtruck | and it's normal to attempt to classify anything and everything as a feature request, because that means nothing has to be done about it |
| 20:32.09 | itsnotabigtruck | part of the problem is that bug systems don't consider that there's more nuance than feature vs non-feature |
| 20:32.55 | itsnotabigtruck | like if it's an essential feature that's missing, or a trivial feature, or a major feature |
| 20:35.11 | itsnotabigtruck | the major part is: feature requests are usually from existing customers that you already have the money from, and resolving them usually won't bring in more customers |
| 20:35.44 | itsnotabigtruck | businesses only care about them if they're coming from inside, or if they're from major customers that could threaten to pull the plug on a zillion-unit deal |
| 20:36.09 | itsnotabigtruck | like if vodafone put in a feature request, nokia would listen |
| 20:45.16 | damaltor | true words |
| 20:47.45 | damaltor | itsnotabigtruck: ..you just smashed my illusion :/ but i know that that is right unfortunatly |
| 21:14.31 | marsje | this is why I like open source |
| 21:14.43 | marsje | people will make it because they want it |
| 21:14.45 | marsje | or need it |
| 21:15.01 | marsje | there are no politics or economics involved (mostly) |
| 21:17.35 | itsnotabigtruck | marsje: no politics? lol |
| 21:17.41 | itsnotabigtruck | if anything, the politics are far worse in open source |
| 21:17.41 | damaltor | mostly. that is the magic word |
| 21:18.00 | itsnotabigtruck | it's sort of like academia, the politics are so vicious precisely because the stakes are so small |
| 21:18.03 | damaltor | most of android is open source too, but you wont get more than 3 updates for a commercial phone |
| 21:18.59 | damaltor | lets just hope that nokia drops windows mobile after the two years, and in the meantime makes meego the best os in the world |
| 21:19.02 | damaltor | .......lol |
| 21:20.06 | Crnkoj | dream on |
| 21:20.24 | Crnkoj | nokia will make windows phone big, actually windows phone will make nokia big, actualyl they will make eachother big again lol |
| 21:20.30 | petteri | dreaming... mmm... |
| 21:21.43 | damaltor | Crnkoj: hands off of my soap bubble! |
| 21:24.14 | Crnkoj | lol |
| 22:32.42 | admiral0 | done a firmware downloader if you are interested http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1152548 |
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| 22:41.08 | keithzg | So wait, is apps.formeego.org down at the moment? |
| 22:54.06 | Crnkoj | admiral0 nice |
| 23:42.24 | itsnotabigtruck | keithzg: yup |
| 23:42.33 | itsnotabigtruck | and it has been for at least a few days |
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