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| 00:49.40 | leio | ~logs |
| 00:49.40 | infobot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/%23n9/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 00:50.39 | leio | can I put offline bookmarks on locations in the maps? |
| 00:57.54 | itsnotabigtruck | interesting |
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| 02:00.44 | mgedmin | so, what do you guys do when you've read half of an interesting web page and want to continue reading it on the n9? |
| 02:01.02 | mgedmin | I refuse to type URLs longer than 20 characters manually |
| 02:02.31 | leio | if you are aiming so low to still be OK typing less than 20 chars, tinyurl it :P |
| 02:05.07 | leio | I don't do it (I got a N9 like yesterday), but maybe a QR code generator on the desktop that you scan it, that just pops up a dialog to open the URL with meescan |
| 02:15.05 | auenf | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.18 | mgedmin | on the n900 I would IM myself the link over, what's the name of that link-local XMPP thingy? "People Nearby"? |
| 02:16.31 | mgedmin | salut? |
| 02:17.01 | mgedmin | if the n9 had xdg-open, I could ssh and xdg-open URL; would be most convenient for me |
| 02:17.20 | mgedmin | (except ssh'ing to the n9 is sometimes a pain -- it seems to rate-limit ARP responses to one per minute or something) |
| 02:17.38 | mgedmin | (I usually have to run ping for 30 seconds until it starts responding) |
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| 09:12.26 | marsje | does anyone have sshfs working on the n9? |
| 09:24.02 | jonni | marsje: yes, atleast mounting N9 filesystem from linux using sshfs works just fine. |
| 09:24.43 | jonni | but you mean other way around I bet |
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| 09:41.55 | marsje | jonni: yes, I mean mounting an external machine on my n9 |
| 09:42.34 | jonni | rzr has sshfs-fuse package, but I havent tested it, as I dont use any external repoes |
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| 10:15.36 | Avengence | mgedmin: QR code addon for firefox + meescan is reasonably fast/easy. IM works if you install the im-additions package |
| 10:22.34 | jonni | nfc tag, really easy :) |
| 10:24.45 | marsje | jonni: sshfs-fuse is the actual package name? I can't find it.. |
| 10:25.16 | marsje | jonni: I do have sshfs and fuse installed though |
| 10:25.47 | jonni | marsje: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=sshfs-fuse&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan |
| 10:32.41 | marsje | which repo do I have to add to be able to install it with apt-get? |
| 10:33.10 | marsje | it looks like it points to a apt repo and I thought I already had this one in my sources.list |
| 10:42.02 | jonni | mgedmin: ssh user@192.168.2.15 "/usr/bin/aegis-exec -l -uuser 'grob http://www.uta.com'" |
| 10:42.22 | jonni | mgedmin: for remote launching urls |
| 10:43.35 | Avengence | that's still slightly inconvienent unless you have static ip assignment for your phone or add something like mdns |
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| 12:18.56 | marsje | when I try to mount something with sshfs I get: fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted |
| 12:19.50 | marsje | I did devel-su. share is /root/share and rwx permissions |
| 12:26.33 | Avengence | what about perms on mount target? |
| 12:35.07 | marsje | Avengence: on my server? Those are ok, as I use the same sshfs command from desktop machine |
| 12:38.56 | Avengence | which direction are you mounting, a directory on phone mounted elsewhere, or a directory elsewhere mounted to phone? |
| 12:42.51 | marsje | elswhere mounted on a phone |
| 12:43.12 | marsje | for example to access my mp3 collection on my server from my phone |
| 12:44.17 | Avengence | so is the path you stated the mount target (directory on phone to mount to) or part of the source path (directory on server/elsewhere)? |
| 12:45.34 | marsje | Avengence: I'm doing: # sshfs username@myserver.com:/share /root/share |
| 12:45.39 | marsje | /root/share being on my phone |
| 12:47.14 | marsje | when I do it as user "user" and use /home/user/share as mount target, I get: fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied |
| 12:47.18 | Avengence | aegis might be blocking that, try same thing so somewhere under /home/user |
| 12:47.28 | marsje | beat you to it |
| 12:47.30 | marsje | :) |
| 12:47.51 | Avengence | i mean do mount as root, but with target as /home/user/share |
| 12:47.56 | marsje | ah |
| 12:48.01 | marsje | didn't try that yet I think |
| 12:48.05 | Avengence | just set perms so both root and user can touch it |
| 12:48.29 | Avengence | you need to be root to do mounts in most cases but you can still go mount into a directory that user owns |
| 12:48.48 | marsje | ok, then I get: fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted |
| 12:50.29 | Avengence | logs? |
| 12:52.57 | marsje | I don't think it is related: Jan 11 13:51:00 (2012) icd2 0.201.2+0m6[1768]: Duplicate filter: Do not add filter for app :1.2116 |
| 12:53.30 | marsje | and a billion on these: Jan 11 13:53:43 (2012) applifed[956]: Amount of free memory dropped below threshold, re-prestart disabled |
| 12:56.37 | Avengence | does fusefs or sshfs have ant logs or debug output you can turn on to see what the error is in detail? if not, can you trace it (not sure what is available for that, no truss but maybe something similar) |
| 12:57.40 | marsje | let me check |
| 12:57.51 | marsje | although I think it's some low level permissions issue |
| 13:00.29 | marsje | with debug flag is shows exactly the same: nothing |
| 13:02.17 | marsje | I'm not familiar with using a trace tool |
| 13:03.07 | Avengence | time to ask in #harmattan |
| 13:04.52 | marsje | okidoki |
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| 15:19.37 | marsje | still, I want to be able to mount something somehow... |
| 15:38.57 | marsje | is there some description of what I am (not) allowed to do with my phone based on aegis? |
| 15:55.57 | Avengence | not that i know if, but solution to mount seems to be go full open and not look back |
| 16:01.52 | marsje | yeah, I think so too |
| 16:02.31 | marsje | although I'm a little angry (at Nokia) that I need to be extra-root to do something that on normal linux can be done by a normal user |
| 16:02.55 | marsje | the idea of fuse I think is that a normal user can mount stuff |
| 16:04.40 | Avengence | yeah, listening to the reasoning in the other chan, nokia either has no clue about risk evaluation, or they are just being lazy and trying to claim security is the reason |
| 16:05.25 | Avengence | at least they aren't nearly as bad as apple. we still have to 'root' our devices to make them ours, but the path to doing so is not actively blocked and once achieved we have so much more |
| 16:11.53 | marsje | agreed that apple is worse |
| 16:12.17 | marsje | the problem is that phone makers are used to closed devices |
| 16:12.30 | marsje | because telcos request it |
| 16:14.29 | Avengence | telcos request to control it themselves to be assholes about charging to use what you own. apple wants that for themselves. both approaches are wrong, i own the device, i pay for the service, let me do what i want. i bought it outright, unlocked and without contract or subsidy |
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