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| 06:06.17 | DocScrutinizer | marsje: seems google loves to do that every now and then (I heard) |
| 06:06.53 | DocScrutinizer | interiorcrocodil: yes, see http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4575&page=21 |
| 06:15.48 | interiorcrocodil | DocScrutinizer: thanks |
| 06:16.05 | interiorcrocodil | when i flashed another kernel, it wouldn't boot |
| 06:16.17 | interiorcrocodil | i couldn't ssh in, is there a way to get kernel messages through usb? |
| 06:16.38 | DocScrutinizer | no |
| 06:17.18 | DocScrutinizer | of course you need matching modules in rootfs |
| 06:17.54 | DocScrutinizer | the kernels on my server should match the stock latest kernel modules |
| 06:18.15 | DocScrutinizer | if you build your own kernel, take care about modules |
| 06:20.23 | interiorcrocodil | ya i thought using the same version string would be enough lol |
| 06:20.26 | petteri | marsje: I am using google calendar and google talk, both work fine |
| 06:20.51 | interiorcrocodil | DocScrutinizer: where did you find the source of the modules? |
| 06:21.08 | interiorcrocodil | i'm using the vanilla kernel |
| 06:21.20 | interiorcrocodil | because one of those guys in hte thread said it would work |
| 06:22.25 | DocScrutinizer | Nokia sent the source on DVD |
| 06:22.53 | interiorcrocodil | do you have n950? |
| 06:22.59 | interiorcrocodil | or did you call them and ask for it? |
| 06:23.17 | DocScrutinizer | so if you didn't get that (or the ISO from my server) you most probably didn't build a matching kernel for the modules you got |
| 06:23.37 | DocScrutinizer | I downloaded it from somebody who asked for it |
| 06:23.54 | DocScrutinizer | I have 950 but it doesn't come with DVD either ;-D |
| 06:24.16 | petteri | damn, it seems that we have now two dev channels, why not keep the dev talk at #harmattan |
| 06:24.18 | DocScrutinizer | firmware rev is different on N950 anyway |
| 06:24.18 | interiorcrocodil | no i built the vanilla kernel, and changed the version string and hoped the old modules would work |
| 06:24.30 | DocScrutinizer | petteri: yep, sorry |
| 06:24.42 | interiorcrocodil | DocScrutinizer: so you have the full kernel source for n9? |
| 06:24.56 | DocScrutinizer | /join #harmattan |
| 06:25.03 | DocScrutinizer | see /topic |
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| 08:27.27 | marsje | hi petteri: what did or didn't you do to get it working? |
| 08:28.01 | marsje | for example, do you use as login name just your username or your full username@gmail.com address? |
| 08:37.22 | petteri | for caldav I first enabled the calendars from which should sync on googles end |
| 08:41.43 | petteri | username@gmail.com and url to www.google.com |
| 08:42.39 | petteri | form here I enabled the calendars: https://www.google.com/calendar/iphoneselect |
| 08:45.07 | marsje | ah, I did not do that last step |
| 08:45.09 | marsje | let me try it |
| 08:48.17 | petteri | if I remember correctly I had to try couple of time to set it. It seemed that google timedout or something |
| 08:51.05 | marsje | my main calendar was already shared according to that screen |
| 08:51.31 | marsje | but I can try with iCal as well |
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| 09:54.42 | marsje | damn, battery almost empty |
| 10:03.50 | zk8 | http://www.wearedesignstudio.com/index.php/2011/12/13/nokia-the-big-picture/ |
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| 12:22.35 | CissWit | Hi there, when i reply / transfer an email, how can i edit / suppress the content of the body of the message i'm responding to ? |
| 12:24.53 | CissWit | if i can |
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| 16:29.26 | xqo | hi |
| 16:29.40 | xqo | if you didnt have the n9, would you buy it again? |
| 16:29.49 | xqo | the guys in #maemo hate it |
| 16:30.03 | xqo | how limited is it exactly? |
| 16:30.03 | xqo | can i write a python server, host it on the phone, ssh to it and run a python webscanner, for example? |
| 16:30.12 | xqo | would i be better off with an android? |
| 16:30.20 | mgedmin_ | I don't know what a webscanner is |
| 16:30.29 | mgedmin_ | you can write a python server, host it on the phone, ssh to it, and run python apps |
| 16:30.47 | xqo | what about apps? they complain that it doesnt have any and never will? |
| 16:31.07 | mgedmin_ | the selection in the ovi store is way smaller than android/iOS, which is not surprising |
| 16:31.24 | mgedmin_ | so it depends on what you want to do |
| 16:31.51 | mgedmin_ | browse the web, take pictures, make phone calls maybe, use ssh/xterm/vim -> n9 is great |
| 16:32.29 | xqo | i want python in a reasonably open phone that also works well for consumers |
| 16:32.35 | xqo | N9? |
| 16:32.40 | mgedmin_ | maybe |
| 16:33.03 | mgedmin_ | a friend with an android phone (galaxy s) was impressed by the smoothness of scrolling/zoomin in the N9's web browser |
| 16:33.38 | xqo | but i want to be able to write my own stuff for the phone |
| 16:34.02 | mgedmin_ | "reasonably open" is a good question -- in theory you can flash a custom kernel on the N9 and do whatever you want, except that most builtin apps stop working (no access to your SMSes etc; those are in encrypted storage that you'll lose) |
| 16:34.20 | mgedmin_ | the standard kernel has a security framework that limits some things but not others |
| 16:34.22 | hiemanshu | mgedmin_: that isn't really true |
| 16:34.31 | mgedmin_ | yeah, I'm repeating rumours, sorry about that... |
| 16:34.43 | mgedmin_ | people in #harmattan especially have been cursing aegis all the time |
| 16:34.54 | mgedmin_ | so far it hasn't inconvenienced me personally |
| 16:35.00 | mgedmin_ | you can write apps and deploy them on your n9 |
| 16:35.15 | mgedmin_ | without any special developer license keys from nokia or other nonsense like that |
| 16:37.26 | mgedmin_ | the nice thing about harmattan (as opposed to android) is that it's basically a desktop linux system on a phone -- userspace is familiar |
| 16:37.50 | mgedmin_ | if you're a linux geek like me |
| 17:58.36 | Richlv | i can ssh to my phone. without "rooting" it. woohoo :) |
| 17:59.28 | xqo | but as a consumer phone, the N9 doesnt even come close to android, or? |
| 18:05.44 | mgedmin_ | depens on what you want from a consumer phone |
| 18:05.53 | mgedmin_ | N9 is prettier than any Android phone I've ever seen |
| 18:05.57 | xqo | i have no idea, i havent had a phone in years |
| 18:06.04 | mgedmin_ | this includes both the hardware and the user interface |
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| 18:43.06 | Richlv | xqo, it's absolutely capable as a consumer phone |
| 18:43.42 | xqo | is it brimming with features though, like android? |
| 18:49.53 | petteri | n9 is best phone out there |
| 18:58.01 | mgedmin_ | features? hm, let me think... maps, excellent gps navigation, a nice web browser without copy/paste/password saving/history, crappy mail (there are no non-crappy mail client on any mobile platform), an okay pdf reader, somewhat crappy notes (save button? no undo?), twitter, facebook, skype, media player, camera, wifi hotspot |
| 18:58.04 | mgedmin_ | these are preinstalled |
| 18:58.16 | mgedmin_ | forgot to mention instant messaging, I suppose |
| 18:58.37 | mgedmin_ | no music track id, or voice recognition |
| 18:59.01 | mgedmin_ | 3rd party e-book readers exist in ovi store (fbreader is more featureful than the android version: supports way more file formats) |
| 18:59.13 | mgedmin_ | haven't seen a sky map application |
| 18:59.23 | mgedmin_ | there's a dropbox client |
| 19:00.16 | mgedmin_ | I'm feeling a shortage of password managers (there are some, I'm not happy with any), or a fuel usage tracking app |
| 20:26.58 | jonni | there is FuelExp |
| 20:32.57 | mgedmin | oh, is there? |
| 20:35.44 | mgedmin | ovi store sucks |
| 20:36.06 | jonni | http://store.ovi.com/content/220442 |
| 20:37.09 | mgedmin | weird ui in screenshots |
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| 23:36.38 | marsje | Speaking in excellent GPS navigation.... |
| 23:36.45 | marsje | my Drive app fails to start |
| 23:36.49 | marsje | after only using it once |
| 23:37.11 | marsje | it shows the car logo and a pair of refresh arrows and that's it |
| 23:37.20 | marsje | :-( |
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