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| 04:43.41 | DocAvalanche | no, it feels like hello ween |
| 04:51.35 | jylan | Has anyone received a "X-Loader image is too big" error when trying to use flasher? command: "flasher-3.5 -F DFL61_HARMATTAN_20.2011.40-4_PR_LEGACY_005-OEM1-958_ARM.bin -f" |
| 05:17.15 | DocAvalanche | weird |
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| 06:17.32 | strannik1 | Hello |
| 06:17.49 | strannik1 | Psycho_oreos: white n9 is apparently going to be available pre xmas |
| 06:21.40 | psycho_oreos | strannik1, heh and I bet it won't be cheap either |
| 06:22.03 | strannik1 | Yea plus i will have to import it |
| 06:22.25 | strannik1 | I will be in germany during xmas , so maybe i will take a trip to switzerland |
| 06:22.48 | strannik1 | Open up a few swiss bank accounts, buy some swiss chocolate and cheese and buy the n9 |
| 06:24.50 | psycho_oreos | lol buy an assorted tin of chocolates larger than the size of N9, eat all the chocolate in the middle of that tin of chocolates and place your N9 in there. Take it back and you got yerself a merry Christmas present with love from Switzerland |
| 06:25.21 | strannik1 | :) hahaha yea |
| 06:25.39 | strannik1 | Hmm i wonder if i have to declare taxes if buying stuff in switzerland |
| 06:25.46 | strannik1 | Its not part of the eu |
| 06:27.40 | strannik1 | Maybe open a swiss company while i am at it .. The corporate tax over there is tiny |
| 06:28.41 | psycho_oreos | beats me, I've never been to Europe but would love to go there one day |
| 06:29.02 | strannik1 | Europe is cold |
| 06:29.12 | strannik1 | I wish i was in australia right now |
| 06:29.29 | strannik1 | Sipping on a cocktail watching all the kangaroos hop past me :) |
| 06:30.15 | psycho_oreos | Australia is not just about kangaroos lol |
| 06:30.30 | psycho_oreos | and anyhow cloudy here, will probably have storm later |
| 06:30.54 | psycho_oreos | thus.. Europe == many countries, many languages, many cultures in one small area ;) |
| 06:31.13 | strannik1 | True |
| 06:31.26 | strannik1 | Isnt it summer right about now in australia? |
| 06:31.40 | strannik1 | Kangaroos are still awesome , got to give them that :) |
| 06:32.39 | hiemanshu | India = Many states, many languages, many cultures in one small area :) oh and too many people too |
| 06:33.26 | psycho_oreos | go to Germany and drive fast on autobahn, go to France and enjoy French wine, go to Italy and taste the real pizza. Head over to England and see the buckingham palace, go towards Finland and see the country that inspired the guy behind linux kernel. Get across to Switzerland and visit the Swiss alps, then drop by to Belgium for fine chocolates, etc, etc, etc |
| 06:33.36 | psycho_oreos | yeah its summer in Australia :) |
| 06:34.36 | strannik1 | Lol head to switzerland and open a bank account |
| 06:34.46 | strannik1 | You got to do that , just for the lols |
| 06:35.01 | psycho_oreos | sounds too much movie inspired idea imo |
| 06:35.05 | strannik1 | How can you not.. Its switzerland :) |
| 06:35.25 | strannik1 | Yea to be honest a swiss account is not all that great anymore |
| 06:35.44 | strannik1 | They sell the info on their clients |
| 06:36.02 | psycho_oreos | I'm sure Europe is a lot more than what I just mentioned lol, Germany also has for instance oktoberfest |
| 06:36.07 | strannik1 | Its almost puts you in the spotlight |
| 06:36.31 | psycho_oreos | wasn't there also movies that say put money into cayman islands or something? lol |
| 06:36.54 | strannik1 | Yea cayman islands seems to be the new place |
| 06:37.20 | strannik1 | But its not a casual "drive down to cayman islands" from germany |
| 06:37.56 | strannik1 | If i am in germany i can just grab a train and go down to switzerland to get my n9 :) or austria is an option |
| 06:38.41 | psycho_oreos | heh Austria and see amsterdam :D |
| 06:39.40 | strannik1 | Holland .. Could go there .. Amsterdam is about 3 hours by train from where i will be |
| 06:39.49 | strannik1 | Hmm , i wonder if they sell n9s there? |
| 06:40.12 | strannik1 | Maybe in a coffeshop in the redlight district :) an all in one service :)) |
| 06:41.22 | psycho_oreos | *shrug* beats me, tmo (talk.m{aem,eeg}o).org may help |
| 06:42.15 | strannik1 | Googling right now |
| 06:43.00 | strannik1 | Lol there is a road called the n9 connecting holland to belgium |
| 06:43.20 | strannik1 | I will turn up there and be like ,,, so where is the n9??? |
| 06:44.03 | psycho_oreos | don't think crossing borders would be that easy though heh |
| 06:44.22 | psycho_oreos | sorta remember an episode from Top Gear where they raced across parts of Europe |
| 06:44.50 | strannik1 | Well in europe we dont have borders anymore , apart from the uk .. And maybe switzerland (i have never been so dunno wwhat it is like) |
| 06:45.09 | strannik1 | Havnt seen the episode |
| 06:45.13 | strannik1 | Is it good? |
| 06:45.35 | psycho_oreos | its not bad, its just shows how Jeremy takes a different route compared to the other two |
| 06:45.42 | strannik1 | Or maybe i have seen it ,, jeremy clarkson had a massive paper copy of his driving license |
| 06:45.43 | psycho_oreos | can't remember which cars were involved as well |
| 06:45.44 | strannik1 | Ha |
| 06:45.56 | psycho_oreos | don't recall that one however |
| 06:46.07 | strannik1 | Ahh maybe i saw a different episode |
| 06:46.32 | strannik1 | Jeremy clarkson was in eastern europe and instead of his license he made a huge copy of it |
| 06:46.40 | strannik1 | On a4 paper |
| 06:47.19 | psycho_oreos | lol |
| 06:47.32 | strannik1 | No n9 in |
| 06:47.41 | strannik1 | UK, Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Netherlands, |
| 06:48.00 | strannik1 | And it keeps telling me that norway is an unkown command |
| 06:48.20 | strannik1 | So no n9 in holland :( ... Maybe i will go to austria/switzerland |
| 06:49.07 | strannik1 | Psycho_oreos: man i deposited 45usd to my poker account |
| 06:49.14 | strannik1 | And i lost 35 dollars |
| 06:49.25 | strannik1 | Psycho_oreos: so much for my n9 strategy lol |
| 06:50.30 | psycho_oreos | ouch |
| 06:50.56 | strannik1 | I was doing well for the first 10 minutes or so haha |
| 06:51.20 | strannik1 | After that it went downhill |
| 06:52.17 | strannik1 | Btw are you from brisbane? |
| 06:52.26 | psycho_oreos | yup |
| 06:52.35 | psycho_oreos | not born there but am living there :) |
| 06:52.40 | strannik1 | Yea i thought u said that ... What is it like? |
| 06:53.36 | psycho_oreos | quiet city at night times (shops generally close early), fuel prices and what not are expensive and wages aren't getting any higher compared to other states (in Aus of course) |
| 06:54.27 | strannik1 | Isnt australia relaxed in general .. I imagine it to be nice and sunny all the time |
| 06:54.59 | strannik1 | The sort of place where i would go on holidays |
| 06:55.22 | psycho_oreos | well yeah it is relaxing, especially when you head out on the beaches during summertime |
| 06:55.38 | psycho_oreos | but otherwise politicians are making this place a living hell |
| 06:56.03 | strannik1 | Ouch,, yea i think i would still prefer to europe |
| 06:56.13 | strannik1 | Everyone is striking over here |
| 06:56.23 | strannik1 | Just to troll the government |
| 06:56.51 | psycho_oreos | lol a few unions here have caused some strikes, have a read up on that Qantas strike if you're keen |
| 06:57.22 | strannik1 | Oh yea i saw that pop up in the news a few times |
| 06:57.35 | strannik1 | Everyone was stranded in the airports |
| 06:58.32 | strannik1 | I honestly think that australia is run by a secret society |
| 06:58.36 | strannik1 | Of kangaroos |
| 06:58.36 | psycho_oreos | one stage in the local newspaper (Courier mail) they mentioned how the qantas engineers went on strike, they did it in weird fashion such as only using left hand |
| 06:59.14 | psycho_oreos | btw, Australia is looking forward to re-opening up the trade with the Russian government on exporting roo meat :) |
| 06:59.32 | strannik1 | Oh wow awesome :) |
| 06:59.49 | psycho_oreos | and uh, kangaroos are not to be messed :) |
| 06:59.50 | strannik1 | I think australia is in a awesome position |
| 06:59.58 | strannik1 | Haha yea :) |
| 07:00.07 | psycho_oreos | they'll kick you if you provoke them lol |
| 07:00.26 | strannik1 | Hahaha yea man , theyre the secret rulers of the earth |
| 07:00.33 | psycho_oreos | well at this time it does seem like it, with all the exports going to countries like China for instance |
| 07:00.35 | strannik1 | Together with THE european horse |
| 07:00.45 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 07:00.55 | psycho_oreos | THE european horse? |
| 07:01.54 | strannik1 | It is so close to china , and i think australia just does business with anyone who gives australia an advantage ( unlike some western countries who dont want to change old practices) |
| 07:02.05 | strannik1 | Yea i cant talk about the horse |
| 07:02.17 | strannik1 | The horse runs everything and controls everything |
| 07:02.31 | psycho_oreos | well afterall... Australia is pretty much surrounded by nearby asian countries :D |
| 07:02.51 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 07:03.14 | strannik1 | You see what i find interesting is how british rebels always flee to america or australia |
| 07:03.22 | strannik1 | And make the country awesome |
| 07:03.58 | strannik1 | Isnt that how australia was sort of formed? |
| 07:04.12 | strannik1 | I don't really know too much on the history |
| 07:04.51 | psycho_oreos | historically yeah, Australia was pretty much the land of convicts. Though aboriginals are the real owners of the land |
| 07:05.30 | strannik1 | Aboriginals? |
| 07:05.46 | psycho_oreos | yup |
| 07:06.08 | strannik1 | Really , i thought they were all dead |
| 07:06.11 | strannik1 | Lol |
| 07:06.12 | psycho_oreos | really black people whom you wouldn't want to mess with |
| 07:06.51 | strannik1 | Kinda like natives in america .. Who dont really exist all that much anymore |
| 07:07.11 | psycho_oreos | well they're not dead, they still live out in the rural outskirts where no other really would want to reside generally.. like in NT (Northern Territory) |
| 07:07.20 | psycho_oreos | heh American Indians? |
| 07:07.29 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 07:07.50 | strannik1 | Europeans came killed em , and declared independence |
| 07:07.57 | strannik1 | I thought it was similair in australia |
| 07:08.35 | psycho_oreos | lots of Aboriginals were killed but they weren't obliterated |
| 07:08.38 | psycho_oreos | more like they fled towards inland where its somewhat really uninhabitable |
| 07:08.52 | psycho_oreos | places like near Uluru (Ayers Rock) |
| 07:09.11 | strannik1 | Ahh cool |
| 07:09.37 | strannik1 | Thats another awesome thing about australia.. You guys have awesome names for the places |
| 07:09.44 | psycho_oreos | that doesn't mean they only live in uninhabitable places, there still are fair few living in the outskirts of rural towns and cities |
| 07:09.53 | strannik1 | en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brisbane_from_Kangaroo_Point.jpg |
| 07:09.59 | psycho_oreos | heh names derived from Aboriginals |
| 07:10.04 | strannik1 | Yea i know what you are saying |
| 07:10.09 | strannik1 | Oh wow |
| 07:10.38 | strannik1 | So maybe the kangaroos are working in corperation with aboriginals? |
| 07:10.43 | psycho_oreos | there's also a car brand which utilises Aboriginal word for its model name |
| 07:10.44 | strannik1 | :) |
| 07:10.48 | psycho_oreos | unlikely |
| 07:11.19 | strannik1 | Isnt there a car brand with a kangaroo logo? |
| 07:11.36 | psycho_oreos | hmm.. *observes the date stamp*, that was a few months after the massive flood that torn across most parts of Brisbane |
| 07:11.41 | psycho_oreos | doubt it |
| 07:12.11 | psycho_oreos | oh and similar flood in rural Victoria as well at the time |
| 07:12.31 | psycho_oreos | there's Holden Maloo, which was featured in Top Gear |
| 07:13.09 | strannik1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayPzEApCfEw&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
| 07:13.58 | strannik1 | Oh wow the holden maloo looks cool |
| 07:14.25 | strannik1 | See i bet that kangaroo was there to change history... Either that or he made a large bet at the bookies :) |
| 07:15.22 | psycho_oreos | oh lol that was just a random wild kangaroo just happened to be on the bathurst race track |
| 07:16.25 | strannik1 | Hahaha, you say its "random". But really the kangaroos have breain washed the world . In reality they are the masters |
| 07:16.33 | psycho_oreos | he's a lucky one that kangaroo, else he'd be a roadkill with those V8 supercars racing around the track |
| 07:16.41 | strannik1 | Lol yea |
| 07:16.44 | strannik1 | A brave one |
| 07:16.55 | psycho_oreos | bet he pissed his pants too |
| 07:17.01 | strannik1 | Hahaha yea |
| 07:17.52 | psycho_oreos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayy15WfQP1s <--- Holden VY Commodore and VY Maloo featured |
| 07:18.21 | strannik1 | This is the only wild kangaroo we have in europe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81szj1vpEu8&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
| 07:19.17 | psycho_oreos | s/Y/E/ |
| 07:19.29 | psycho_oreos | facepalms.. s/Y/E/g |
| 07:19.39 | strannik1 | Not the topgear one? |
| 07:19.52 | psycho_oreos | that is the topgear one |
| 07:20.05 | strannik1 | Cool |
| 07:20.37 | psycho_oreos | well actually VXR8 Bathurst is actually a specific model out of the Holden Commodore range, sharing the same designs as VE |
| 07:23.01 | psycho_oreos | and speaking of utes, I personally own one myself |
| 07:25.08 | strannik1 | Wow that car is awesome |
| 07:25.18 | strannik1 | Oh wow |
| 07:25.24 | strannik1 | You have one? |
| 07:25.35 | strannik1 | That is really cool |
| 07:25.44 | psycho_oreos | not that ute of course |
| 07:25.54 | strannik1 | I think i have seen that episode |
| 07:26.15 | strannik1 | Australian cars are quite rare here |
| 07:26.48 | psycho_oreos | I was quite surprised to see a commodore in UK though. I gotta admit commodore is a really big car |
| 07:27.01 | strannik1 | Love that bi mode button |
| 07:28.17 | strannik1 | Is the commodore the car they are driving in the clip? |
| 07:28.27 | psycho_oreos | http://www.autoline.com.au/photo.wsvc?size=800&pid=1&vid=1490169 <-- mine looks like that except mine is blue coloured. Its older than the one featured in the video but meh |
| 07:28.36 | strannik1 | Where did you see it! In london? |
| 07:29.28 | psycho_oreos | the VXR8 is commodore yes.. the maloo is based off holden ute, they stopped calling it holden commodore utility since I think VY (a series earlier than VE) |
| 07:29.36 | psycho_oreos | I might have the thread hang on |
| 07:29.43 | strannik1 | Oh wow , a race pick up? |
| 07:30.19 | strannik1 | It looks like a race car / pick up |
| 07:30.38 | strannik1 | That car is bad ass |
| 07:30.42 | psycho_oreos | yeah though you'll hear Richards saying its not called a pickup :) |
| 07:30.54 | strannik1 | Haha |
| 07:31.17 | psycho_oreos | pickups here are defined mostly as 4x4 ute... or basically 4wd utes.. and they're usually larger than just the utes |
| 07:31.58 | strannik1 | Yea this is not a pickup truck.. Its a racing pickup car |
| 07:32.19 | strannik1 | That is awesome ,, havnt seen anything like it |
| 07:32.55 | strannik1 | Wait, so is this a vauxhall? |
| 07:33.56 | psycho_oreos | well if they were to be sold through the shops yes its called Vauxhall but that's just a rebrand |
| 07:34.13 | psycho_oreos | Vauxhall is part of GM and so is Holden, so they just rebrand names around |
| 07:34.31 | psycho_oreos | like you guys have Vauxhall vectra, here its just called Holden vectra |
| 07:34.32 | strannik1 | I get it |
| 07:34.37 | strannik1 | Ahh cool |
| 07:34.44 | strannik1 | Never realised it |
| 07:34.55 | psycho_oreos | hehe now you know |
| 07:34.58 | strannik1 | :) |
| 07:35.05 | psycho_oreos | hmm still trying to find that link |
| 07:35.16 | strannik1 | Yea they do that with lexus and toyota |
| 07:35.30 | strannik1 | The western lexus cars are just toyotas in asian markets |
| 07:35.49 | psycho_oreos | Lexus apparently is a luxury brand of Toyota but yeah you could say its a subdivision of Toyota |
| 07:36.18 | psycho_oreos | Nissan has infinity I think |
| 07:36.29 | strannik1 | Well in some asian markets they have the lexus models but with a toyota logo on ir |
| 07:36.29 | psycho_oreos | Mazda had Eunos |
| 07:36.30 | strannik1 | It |
| 07:37.19 | psycho_oreos | *shrugs* that could just be the same car sharing the same badges, logos. Such as lexus ls200 is also known as Toyota altezza |
| 07:37.41 | strannik1 | Yea maybe |
| 07:37.41 | psycho_oreos | but you can I think get unique to only lexus branded cars |
| 07:37.53 | strannik1 | Yea true |
| 07:38.23 | strannik1 | Dont know too much what is going on in asian countries |
| 07:38.30 | strannik1 | Wow that maloo is cool |
| 07:39.39 | strannik1 | 40k is not cheap |
| 07:39.52 | strannik1 | Pounds |
| 07:40.15 | psycho_oreos | its to probably help cover the various taxes :D |
| 07:41.55 | psycho_oreos | http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/vr-vs-holden-commodore-1993-1997/175497-will-14s-fit-3-8-vs-wagon.html <--- would that be satisfactory? :D |
| 07:42.53 | psycho_oreos | http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/vr-vs/164667-vs-wagon-rod.html <-- ahh much better, here you can see pics of UK rego |
| 07:46.30 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 07:46.58 | strannik1 | I dont think i have seen holdens here |
| 07:47.07 | strannik1 | Tho i will look out for any |
| 07:47.20 | psycho_oreos | they'd have to be imported or otherwise deliberately rebadged :) |
| 07:47.31 | strannik1 | Well yea :) |
| 07:47.49 | strannik1 | Those v8s are crazy tho |
| 07:47.50 | strannik1 | Wow |
| 07:48.32 | strannik1 | Watching the stig driving the cars right now |
| 07:48.51 | psycho_oreos | I've heard Vauxhalls have bad reputation over there, so maybe if one knew there was a Holden equivalent down here, he/she may just buy the badges and replace all the Vauxhall branded bits (usually on the exterior) with Holden :D |
| 07:50.44 | strannik1 | Wow the maloo was faster |
| 07:51.02 | strannik1 | Yea vauxhall isnt all that great |
| 07:51.45 | psycho_oreos | I suppose lighter rear end sorta helped :) |
| 07:51.47 | strannik1 | People usually buy vauxhall cars for the relatively low price |
| 07:52.06 | psycho_oreos | lol more or less the same story here with Holden and Ford |
| 07:52.28 | strannik1 | So that maloo? What brand is that? |
| 07:52.56 | psycho_oreos | Holden maloo would be what it would be called here.. otherwise its Vauxhall maloo in UK predominantly |
| 07:52.58 | strannik1 | Holden ... But you see that does not look like your typical british vauxhall |
| 07:53.07 | psycho_oreos | nope :D |
| 07:53.14 | strannik1 | Neither does the first car |
| 07:53.18 | psycho_oreos | in fact its more like a muscle car |
| 07:53.30 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 07:53.37 | psycho_oreos | and the first car is more like US's equivalent to the term that defines saloon |
| 07:53.47 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 07:54.11 | psycho_oreos | both of them will be thirsty though, 5L V8 |
| 07:54.42 | psycho_oreos | and commodore/commodore ute/ute ranges from Holden are rear wheelers |
| 07:54.59 | strannik1 | I like those utes |
| 07:55.02 | strannik1 | Theyre cool |
| 07:55.09 | psycho_oreos | grins |
| 07:55.15 | psycho_oreos | should import one ;) |
| 07:55.28 | strannik1 | Haha yea :) |
| 07:55.34 | strannik1 | Theyre awesome |
| 07:56.03 | psycho_oreos | it'll be an instant head turner, and you can smoke some snobs thinking their cars is `da bomb' |
| 07:56.37 | strannik1 | Yea true hahah |
| 07:57.06 | psycho_oreos | though.. if it snows, driving around in them won't be as much fun |
| 07:57.07 | strannik1 | I would leave the top lid open though probably |
| 07:57.13 | strannik1 | Oh yea haha |
| 07:57.22 | psycho_oreos | lol I don't think that'll be a good idea |
| 07:57.32 | strannik1 | Haha true |
| 07:57.39 | strannik1 | On a sunny day maybe |
| 07:58.25 | psycho_oreos | I think you might be able to get an option for soft top, though it'll look ugly on the sides where theres hooks for the tonneau cover |
| 07:59.05 | strannik1 | I swore the one in top gear had a soft top type thing |
| 07:59.10 | strannik1 | Maybe not |
| 07:59.59 | psycho_oreos | nah its hard top the one they reviewed.. it may cost more but it also adds a little more weight at the back |
| 08:00.50 | strannik1 | But what about rain? |
| 08:01.14 | strannik1 | I mean can you drive it all in rain |
| 08:01.34 | psycho_oreos | that's what tonneau covers are for, well that and the sports bar which on mine is just a long thin piece of steel |
| 08:01.36 | strannik1 | Or will there be a pool party after you went for a drive |
| 08:01.45 | psycho_oreos | nah |
| 08:01.57 | psycho_oreos | there's proper drain holes in the back in case you don't have cover on top |
| 08:02.18 | psycho_oreos | plus where the rear tray opens, its not water tight on mine :) |
| 08:02.31 | psycho_oreos | pretty sure it won't become a tub for water collection |
| 08:02.40 | strannik1 | Haha cool :) |
| 08:03.06 | strannik1 | Could be cool , stick in a couple pumps and make a jacuzzi |
| 08:03.27 | psycho_oreos | gotta seal the holes in the rear first lol |
| 08:03.53 | strannik1 | Yea might be an awkward pool party that XD |
| 08:04.04 | strannik1 | Sooo , the water just exists straight away |
| 08:04.17 | psycho_oreos | portable bath on the go you could say |
| 08:04.33 | psycho_oreos | well there would be some water spots here and there and I would say |
| 08:04.58 | psycho_oreos | but its not like as if it'll fully collect enough water that you could splash yerself in |
| 08:05.06 | strannik1 | Damm that is cool , you see i would just use the pick up bit for casual shopping , so i really wouldnt use the back bit all that much |
| 08:05.12 | strannik1 | But it just looks awesome |
| 08:05.35 | strannik1 | I guess it would be cool to chill out in |
| 08:05.39 | psycho_oreos | utes down here have been also known as `help me move houses' |
| 08:06.08 | psycho_oreos | or you could sleep in the back as well, obviously with a bit of bedding put in place beforehand |
| 08:06.22 | strannik1 | Yea thats what i thought |
| 08:06.34 | psycho_oreos | I've seen a few stickers stuck on utes saying,"Yes this is my ute, no I will not help you move." |
| 08:06.43 | strannik1 | Hahahaha |
| 08:06.45 | strannik1 | :) |
| 08:07.52 | psycho_oreos | and also utes are fun to drive in wet conditions, snow would probably be even more fun but just driving in the wet is enough to give you some chills if you weren't prepared |
| 08:09.37 | strannik1 | The drifting? |
| 08:09.56 | psycho_oreos | its not only just drifting |
| 08:09.59 | strannik1 | Are they rear wheel drive? |
| 08:10.17 | strannik1 | I can imagine the drifting will be fun with it |
| 08:10.23 | strannik1 | Without the weight |
| 08:10.23 | psycho_oreos | yup as I pointed out earlier :) |
| 08:10.41 | strannik1 | Oh, also are they usually automatic or manual? |
| 08:11.07 | psycho_oreos | mostly automatic, its cheaper here to get them in automatic.. but you can also get manual, they're just rare |
| 08:11.28 | psycho_oreos | then there's automatic to manual conversion kits as well |
| 08:11.34 | psycho_oreos | mine's a manual |
| 08:11.36 | strannik1 | Yea in europe most cars are still manual |
| 08:11.51 | strannik1 | I like manuals |
| 08:12.09 | strannik1 | But i also like automatics when feeling lazy |
| 08:12.23 | psycho_oreos | Holden and Ford sells automatic cheaper funnily enough. I mean the asian branded cars here sells automatic more dearer than their manual counterparts |
| 08:13.16 | strannik1 | Yea its interesting how everywhere in the world automatic became the standard .. In europe manual is the standard and automatic is the "upgrade" |
| 08:13.45 | strannik1 | But if you are racing it has to be a manual |
| 08:13.48 | strannik1 | :) |
| 08:14.13 | psycho_oreos | that would probably the same rule with asian branded vehicles.. usually manuals should be lot easier to produce and what not compared to automatics |
| 08:14.32 | hiemanshu | The content you're trying to share includes a link that's been blocked for being spammy or unsafe: |
| 08:14.33 | hiemanshu | http://thepiratebay.org/torrent WWWWWTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFF |
| 08:14.38 | hiemanshu | errr, wrong window |
| 08:14.57 | strannik1 | Lol |
| 08:15.03 | psycho_oreos | even some asian branded cars offer you a lower spec version should you choose automatic |
| 08:15.19 | psycho_oreos | busted! for using tpb! ;) |
| 08:15.26 | strannik1 | :)haha |
| 08:16.15 | hiemanshu | psycho_oreos: I was downloading a podcast, doesn't matter |
| 08:16.24 | strannik1 | Do they all come with v8s? The utes |
| 08:16.29 | psycho_oreos | orly? :D |
| 08:16.54 | psycho_oreos | nah, you can get V6, L6 as well, Holden are V6 and V8 for utes, Ford has L6 and V8 for utes |
| 08:17.42 | strannik1 | Damm i want to race in one of em |
| 08:17.56 | strannik1 | Might as well fly down to australia |
| 08:18.03 | strannik1 | Pick up a ute and an n9 |
| 08:18.08 | strannik1 | Visit some kangaroos |
| 08:18.17 | strannik1 | And then drive back .. bOOM |
| 08:18.20 | strannik1 | :) |
| 08:18.58 | psycho_oreos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muOGqS5hvv8 <--- ute losing control, SS is Holden's top of the range for trim level, it comes with only V8 for choice of engines |
| 08:21.04 | strannik1 | Can you store that hardtop inside the pickup area |
| 08:21.20 | strannik1 | Or do you take it off permanently if you want to transport stuff |
| 08:21.55 | psycho_oreos | never used hard top but I think you have to take it off permanently |
| 08:21.58 | tabasko | pawky: did you get your asnwer? :) |
| 08:22.51 | psycho_oreos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UdM7AEN_DI <--- this is more like what I'm talking about :) but there's more than just that when it comes to driving utes |
| 08:24.15 | strannik1 | Hahaha oh wow |
| 08:29.32 | strannik1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFEB1VyvZEA&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
| 08:29.37 | strannik1 | Those are cool creatures |
| 08:29.49 | psycho_oreos | fyi, there's a car manufacturer that produces front wheel drive utes. Though its not Australian made nor branded and its smaller than Holden and Ford utes. Its called Proton Jumbuck. I personally wouldn't call that ute a proper ute imo :) |
| 08:31.47 | psycho_oreos | lol |
| 08:33.38 | psycho_oreos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wHreVKgOT4 <--- meanwhile speaking of cool creatures... |
| 08:43.05 | strannik1 | Those ute races are cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6h5UWMaSjo&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
| 08:46.31 | psycho_oreos | heh watched a fair few of those |
| 09:12.39 | pawky | tabasko: Yes I did. It's a bug to be fixed in the next release |
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| 09:33.25 | sledges | hello! awesom channel ;) |
| 09:33.52 | sledges | What are the chances to make N9 USA version into British? Has anyone tried flashing firmware not matching the phone? I read some bricking stories :( |
| 09:34.11 | sledges | ~logs |
| 09:34.11 | infobot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/%23n9/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 09:36.09 | strannik1 | Sledges: usa version??? |
| 09:36.31 | strannik1 | There is no american n9... |
| 09:36.39 | sledges | strannik1: http://www.pocketables.net/2011/11/amazon-usa-gets-nokia-n9-is-selling-it-for-650.html |
| 09:38.14 | strannik1 | Interesting |
| 09:38.24 | sledges | links are here: http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/16/nokia-n9-on-amazon-com-usa-16gb64gb-for-500650usd/ |
| 09:38.28 | strannik1 | Surely the firmware will be the european version? |
| 09:38.50 | sledges | I hope so. I am receiving an American version soon, but I'm in UK lol |
| 09:38.58 | strannik1 | There is no british n9. In britain you only get importd |
| 09:39.05 | sledges | true |
| 09:39.16 | strannik1 | Why not order it from expansys? |
| 09:39.30 | strannik1 | More expensive? |
| 09:39.46 | sledges | then WESTERNEUROPE would do to if exists (e.g. DFL61_HARMATTAN_20.2011.40-4... WESTERNEUROPE .._EMMC_NORTHERNEUROPE.bin), do you have a link to a list of all localised firmwares? |
| 09:39.59 | sledges | i got it from ebay, a bargain from a local guy |
| 09:40.15 | sledges | so I wonder what will I get in the end :) |
| 09:40.26 | strannik1 | I am waiting for the white version |
| 09:40.31 | sledges | :) |
| 09:40.36 | sledges | to clean it more often? |
| 09:41.41 | strannik1 | Yep :) |
| 09:42.09 | strannik1 | I wonder if the phone covers can be changed if they get too scratched |
| 09:42.24 | strannik1 | I did it once for my e71.. Looked awesome afterwards |
| 09:42.30 | sledges | strannik1: you get a free silicon glove in a package (that's what I read, hope it's true) |
| 09:42.34 | strannik1 | And once for my n95 |
| 09:42.41 | strannik1 | Yea you do |
| 09:42.50 | strannik1 | But i dont care much for the cover |
| 09:43.23 | strannik1 | My theory , why put a phone into a protective cover if youre never ever going to touch it |
| 09:43.54 | strannik1 | Maybe a pocket sleeve of sorts would be good |
| 09:46.17 | strannik1 | Are you getting the black one? |
| 09:47.45 | strannik1 | Sledges: |
| 09:48.30 | sledges | strannik1: yes |
| 09:48.44 | strannik1 | 64gb? |
| 09:48.47 | strannik1 | Or 16 |
| 09:48.49 | sledges | 16 |
| 09:48.50 | sledges | is enough |
| 09:49.03 | strannik1 | Cool , i really want a 64gb |
| 09:49.11 | strannik1 | Its quite pricey tho |
| 09:49.17 | sledges | the cover does not 'cover' the touchscreen |
| 09:49.22 | sledges | it is |
| 09:49.37 | strannik1 | Yea 550 pounds on expansys |
| 09:49.53 | strannik1 | Yea i am really not a big fan of phone covers |
| 09:50.05 | strannik1 | I mean the gorilla glass will probably take care of itself |
| 09:50.37 | strannik1 | But i prefer to have the phone in my hand , not the phone in a silicon skin |
| 09:51.48 | sledges | good hope. i prefer it scratchless, by accidentally putting pennies or keys into the same pocket 8) |
| 09:52.13 | sledges | a sleeve would do fine as well, but hey let's try the glove too :) |
| 09:52.23 | strannik1 | Haha :) |
| 09:52.27 | sledges | weird that you need to flash firmware PR1.1 even according to its colour |
| 09:52.39 | strannik1 | Yea nokia does that |
| 09:53.25 | strannik1 | Never understood why they do that ,, but hey |
| 09:53.51 | strannik1 | The firmware for the black will be exactly the same as for the cyan |
| 09:54.21 | strannik1 | I remember changing my product code for my n95 to debrand it |
| 09:54.45 | strannik1 | I could choose between a grey, black , dark purple and gold firmware Xd |
| 09:55.00 | sledges | but maybe it then has a different default theme in it(?) more cyanish etc |
| 09:55.20 | strannik1 | Nah |
| 09:55.26 | strannik1 | Theyre exactly the same |
| 09:55.45 | strannik1 | They just do it for the lols |
| 09:56.13 | strannik1 | I guess it has something to do with nokias database |
| 09:56.26 | sledges | :) |
| 09:56.44 | strannik1 | There product codes differ for each region and each branding |
| 09:57.10 | strannik1 | So for each seperate region and branding they used different local files and vodafone themes or whatever |
| 09:58.02 | strannik1 | I guess when they started introducing phones with different colours they just decided to give them new product codes ( instead of redesigning the database) |
| 10:00.28 | sledges | yup, seems reasonable |
| 10:02.15 | strannik1 | The white one does look like a fingerprint magnet though |
| 10:02.18 | strannik1 | :( |
| 10:03.05 | sledges | do you have a mac book or something to match colours? :) |
| 10:03.23 | strannik1 | Macbook pro , silver one |
| 10:03.53 | strannik1 | I have a white nokia e72 qwerty phone |
| 10:26.11 | sledges | fair enough ;) |
| 10:27.07 | sledges | i wonder if we could do repaintings as well lol I bet OpenMoko (and GTA04) guys have all freedom in their hands still (case custom 3D printing, wooden cases https://picasaweb.google.com/114961040002008630266/GTA04WoodenCase ) |
| 10:28.14 | strannik1 | Well i bet you can just snap the phone out of the shell and replace it |
| 10:28.20 | strannik1 | At least i hope its possible |
| 10:28.31 | strannik1 | They must have gotten the phone in there somehow |
| 10:28.59 | sledges | :) |
| 10:29.13 | sledges | replacing costs >> repainting :D |
| 10:29.24 | strannik1 | True |
| 10:29.49 | sledges | but find me a magnesium-whatever housing friendly spray paint.. |
| 10:30.48 | strannik1 | Meh once i get the n9 i wont mess with the case .. I will probably end up getting the black one |
| 10:30.57 | strannik1 | No way i am getting cyan or magneta |
| 10:31.05 | sledges | :}}} |
| 10:31.09 | strannik1 | Cyan looks cool. But too unprofessional |
| 10:31.15 | sledges | magenta is for girls |
| 10:31.22 | sledges | but what is cyan for - teens? |
| 10:31.37 | strannik1 | I guess magenta and cyan is for teenage girls |
| 10:31.46 | sledges | i saw magneta being sold on ebay so fast and so expensively |
| 10:31.54 | strannik1 | Maybe some teen boys like cyan too |
| 10:31.56 | sledges | :)) who want iphone or android |
| 10:32.07 | sledges | who of them knows what's meego |
| 10:32.14 | sledges | so i hardly imagine those sell |
| 10:32.15 | strannik1 | Wow it must be women in their 40s who want to feel like theyre 20 haha |
| 10:32.44 | sledges | :) but for that unfortunately we have lumia 800 ..... @_#'@[*_&#$ (insert the OS name here) |
| 10:32.46 | strannik1 | Once i get n9 , people will be like whoaaaa |
| 10:33.03 | strannik1 | Meh screw that lumia phone |
| 10:33.13 | strannik1 | I cant believe they ripped the n9 design off |
| 10:33.17 | sledges | and i already know a few 40yos who want to look 20 and have cyan lumias.. |
| 10:33.28 | strannik1 | Oh wow haha |
| 10:33.46 | sledges | shake Elop and Bill's hand... |
| 10:33.56 | strannik1 | Troll elop |
| 10:34.20 | strannik1 | Elop is just there to make the company as cheap as possible for ms to take over |
| 10:34.53 | strannik1 | You see i want a coolcat phone like the n9 ,, |
| 10:34.57 | sledges | why in the world.... i hope Tizen picks up from intel and samsung, where no Elop-like trojans are |
| 10:35.15 | strannik1 | Only problem is theyre releasing the lumia ,, which is like the cheap entry smartphone |
| 10:35.31 | strannik1 | That will make n9 look stupid |
| 10:35.40 | strannik1 | Yea , i hope tizen kicks off |
| 10:35.56 | strannik1 | They said tizen apps will work on meego phones. Or harmattan |
| 10:37.20 | strannik1 | Sledges: nokia shows what its capable off with the n9 and troll elop just decides to ban from most world markets |
| 10:37.37 | strannik1 | And he shut down most nokia online stores |
| 10:38.11 | sledges | crazy, we should revolt against him, petitions etc :) |
| 10:39.08 | strannik1 | Yea lol that will just put a smile on his troll face |
| 10:39.44 | strannik1 | He has done it before . He sold out macromedia to adobe . He is quite literally a professional troll |
| 10:41.00 | strannik1 | Same story. Ex adobe employee becomes macromedia ceo. He lets macromedia die enough for the share prices to drop significantly. After that adobe bought em out |
| 10:41.13 | sledges | probably induces turmoil on purpose to keep interests up and the fire going |
| 10:41.51 | sledges | interests for not the company he works for the moment. it looks that he always works for someone else rather where he is in :D |
| 10:44.01 | strannik1 | Yep |
| 10:44.15 | strannik1 | He is probably just going to let nokia die |
| 10:44.24 | strannik1 | To sell out to microsoft |
| 10:45.38 | sledges | yup, looks like similar pattern |
| 10:46.37 | strannik1 | I hope the harmattan developers hust form their own company |
| 10:46.41 | strannik1 | Boom , and profit |
| 10:47.22 | sledges | similarly like LibreOffice forked off? it's just that they are non-profit |
| 10:47.35 | sledges | but nokia was already on a burning platform before Elop CEOd it |
| 10:49.20 | sledges | symbian was simply not picking up |
| 10:50.37 | strannik1 | I guess , despite the whole of the developing world that used it |
| 10:50.54 | strannik1 | At the time everyone in china would use a nokia phone |
| 10:51.22 | strannik1 | To announce , guys we are on a burning platform is silly if you cant offer any other platform |
| 10:51.39 | strannik1 | I would understand if they had a second platform ,,, but no |
| 10:52.09 | sledges | and they had, if only N9 was released at least a year earlier.. |
| 10:52.42 | strannik1 | Nokia made the mistake of turning symbian (probably the best os for phones with small screens and no touchscreens) to the worst touchscreen phones on the market |
| 10:52.52 | strannik1 | Sledges: true |
| 10:53.02 | sledges | despite it being on top usability charts, Symbian was loosing grip on the market fast to Android and iPhone, especially in the forecast it looked gloomy.. |
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| 10:53.34 | strannik1 | Thats the thing .. Symbian is an os for phones with keypads.. Not for touchscreen phones |
| 10:53.37 | sledges | some strategy planning failures withing the company, here came Elop and checkmated the chaos |
| 10:53.48 | strannik1 | Lol yea |
| 10:54.08 | strannik1 | Have you owned a symbian nokia? |
| 10:54.11 | sledges | so he's not to be blamed 100% .. |
| 10:54.18 | strannik1 | True |
| 10:54.22 | sledges | yes, but not as primary |
| 10:54.32 | strannik1 | Which one? |
| 10:54.40 | sledges | my gf did |
| 10:54.48 | strannik1 | N95? |
| 10:55.05 | strannik1 | Well do you know it has two softbuttons right under the screen? |
| 10:55.44 | strannik1 | The left one is usually the menu button in apps. And the right key is usually back , or settings .. Or something of that sort |
| 10:56.20 | strannik1 | Nokia used the concept of those softbuttons since the release of the first phones that had snake2 on them |
| 10:56.46 | strannik1 | Well now on the new nokia qwerty symbian phone they decided to get rid of those two buttons |
| 10:56.49 | sledges | N73 |
| 10:57.10 | strannik1 | Yea n73 , two buttons , right under the screen |
| 10:57.30 | sledges | yup, quite prevalent at those times |
| 10:57.43 | strannik1 | Well now they decided to get rid of em |
| 10:57.56 | sledges | if not the wholy keyboard :) |
| 10:58.00 | strannik1 | 80% of apps rely on those buttons |
| 10:58.15 | strannik1 | For the most basic features |
| 10:58.18 | sledges | lol |
| 10:58.23 | sledges | true |
| 10:58.23 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 10:58.39 | strannik1 | So nokia shot itself in the leg there |
| 10:58.59 | strannik1 | I am actually on my e72 right on the irc client |
| 10:59.12 | strannik1 | When i press the left key i get options like |
| 10:59.29 | strannik1 | Commands , logs , copy url , settings , view etc |
| 10:59.45 | strannik1 | On the right key i can select different channels |
| 11:00.16 | strannik1 | And infact when i want to connect to any irc channel the first thing i need to do is hot the left key |
| 11:00.24 | strannik1 | Hit* |
| 11:00.44 | sledges | when you asked me about phone model, I checked this one out :) http://www.goodcellphonereviews.com/wp-content/uploads/nokia_evolution.jpg |
| 11:00.46 | strannik1 | Now on the new nokia qwerty phone i can just stare at the irc client :) |
| 11:01.10 | sledges | :) |
| 11:01.52 | sledges | crazy, should be some other shorthands, otherwise it breaks 95% apps |
| 11:02.15 | sledges | isnt internet full with uproar/solutions? |
| 11:02.27 | sledges | (we're heavily OT here already :D) |
| 11:02.34 | strannik1 | No people dont even care/realize |
| 11:02.45 | strannik1 | A few people asked about it but that was it |
| 11:02.53 | strannik1 | Lol yea |
| 11:02.57 | strannik1 | www.nokia.co.uk/gb-en/products/phone/e6-00/ |
| 11:02.59 | sledges | 'cause they don't use qwerty anymore? |
| 11:03.23 | strannik1 | This is the phone i mean .. If you look at the screen it has options and menu on the screen |
| 11:03.30 | sledges | this one you can touch on the screen with your finger |
| 11:03.35 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 11:03.42 | sledges | looks funny though - options <-> menu but no buttons underneath :) |
| 11:03.46 | strannik1 | So now you touch the options or menu button |
| 11:04.20 | strannik1 | Thing is , the app developers need to rewrite code to make this work |
| 11:05.00 | strannik1 | So if you are in 90% of apps tapping the screen will do jack all |
| 11:05.09 | sledges | :D |
| 11:05.41 | strannik1 | Nice phone otherwise .. |
| 11:06.00 | strannik1 | The phone i am on will be my last ever qwerty nokia |
| 11:06.27 | strannik1 | Design is nice .. Software is way better than blackberry |
| 11:06.43 | strannik1 | They might aswell remove the powerbutton in the next version |
| 11:08.22 | strannik1 | Thats my rant for the day :) |
| 11:25.17 | sledges | :) let's wait for our N9 babies to jump in! |
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| 18:32.05 | Richlv | i'm getting the "su: can't set groups: Operation not permitted". any way to fix it without reflashing ? |
| 18:33.38 | daniel_o | not that i know of, had the same problem, had to reflash |
| 18:34.06 | Richlv | that's mighty annoying - there's lots of threads & forum postsm, including nokia forums - but no response :/ |
| 18:34.18 | Richlv | removed all devel packages, reinstalled - that, of course, does not help |
| 18:34.45 | Richlv | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/su-cannot-set-groups-operation-not-permitted-770498/ reports the same problem, but on general purpose distro after messing up permissions |
| 18:34.54 | Richlv | so i assume permissions for some file have gotten messed up |
| 18:35.17 | daniel_o | yeah, did u flash the pr1.1 by hand? |
| 18:35.25 | Richlv | 'by hand' being ? |
| 18:35.33 | Richlv | keep in mind that i have n9 for a few days only ;) |
| 18:35.33 | daniel_o | with the flasher |
| 18:35.40 | Richlv | hmm, no, used the built-in update thingie |
| 18:35.42 | daniel_o | me too :P |
| 18:35.45 | Richlv | which downloaded stuff over wifi |
| 18:35.47 | daniel_o | ah ok |
| 18:37.18 | daniel_o | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80015 |
| 18:38.50 | Richlv | daniel_o, oh, i've read all those threads 3 times already :) |
| 18:38.56 | Richlv | didn't see anything besides reflashing, though |
| 18:39.02 | daniel_o | maybe there would be another way if we somehow could use the flasher to just copy a knew su binary with proper permissions to the device :D but that's way too high for me :D |
| 18:39.16 | daniel_o | yeah, i know :D |
| 18:41.21 | Richlv | i'm also wondering whether there's any way to find out "product variant" without some windows-only software |
| 18:43.06 | daniel_o | you mean the name like 059L7G7? |
| 18:43.38 | Richlv | not sure, whatever http://blog.makesyouhappy.org/?p=202 says =) |
| 18:45.47 | daniel_o | yeah, u find the product variant, like shown on the picture on the simcard tray, but to download the firmware u need the direct download link or the navifirm windows software |
| 18:46.41 | Richlv | yeah, was wondering how to find that link out :) |
| 18:47.35 | daniel_o | someone posted a link yesterday somewher, i'm wondering if i can find it and change it to the right firmware |
| 18:54.02 | Richlv | "Meanwhile I found out that the problem disappears |
| 18:54.03 | Richlv | when i set the setuid of the busybox binary." |
| 18:54.07 | Richlv | from http://osdir.com/ml/linux.busybox/2003-10/msg00119.html |
| 18:54.11 | Richlv | and n9 has busybox... |
| 18:54.26 | Richlv | arrrr-wtf |
| 18:54.37 | Richlv | can't they make upgrade work ? :> |
| 18:54.44 | Richlv | or at least issue some patch |
| 18:55.22 | daniel_o | i think it's not the right solution, just a workaround, because it leads to a different probelm |
| 18:55.44 | daniel_o | it's not that easy because u can't access the filesystem before booting easily.. |
| 18:56.40 | daniel_o | can u tell me ur product variant, i will check in navifirm for the firmware |
| 18:58.18 | Richlv | 059J187 |
| 18:59.33 | daniel_o | North Europe Black 64GB |
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| 19:05.12 | tabasko-N9 | odd. I have downloaded some maps but when I go managa maps and installed maps, it says that I cannot use them if Im not online |
| 19:05.27 | tabasko-N9 | so whats the idea of offline maps then :D |
| 19:13.25 | daniel_o | Richlv: http://nopaste.me/paste/12843647144ed7d1c822cc1 |
| 19:14.11 | daniel_o | tabasko-N9: sorry, i don't know |
| 19:17.50 | Richlv | daniel_o, awesome, thanks |
| 19:17.59 | Richlv | will have to try to figure out what all those links do ;) |
| 19:19.03 | daniel_o | main thing is the last one, that's the firmware image, 1.1GB or sth. but navifirm always downloads all the files, but i don't know why |
| 19:19.40 | daniel_o | so i just put everything in one directory and start the flasher with the firmwarefile as the source.. worked well |
| 19:19.43 | Richlv | for i in grep http; do wget $i; done ;) |
| 19:19.52 | daniel_o | :D |
| 19:20.09 | Richlv | but damn, why the hell would that info only be available in a win-only app |
| 19:20.11 | daniel_o | i really should script more LD |
| 19:20.14 | Richlv | txt file would do... |
| 19:20.42 | daniel_o | it wasn't, i had to sniff the urls from the program :D |
| 19:21.00 | daniel_o | it's not shown somewhere as far as i know |
| 19:22.23 | daniel_o | oh great, ok it is, just found out.. -.- |
| 19:23.14 | daniel_o | there is a button: "copy to clipboard" it actually copies the urls... could've meant anything :D |
| 19:41.05 | Richlv | also, how do i save/export/copy notes ? |
| 19:41.12 | Richlv | which is also asked at http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/t5/Maemo-and-MeeGo-Devices/Saving-my-notes-from-my-N9-send-export-sync-anything/td-p/1228787 |
| 19:42.45 | daniel_o | good question :D |
| 21:06.26 | Velmont | Aaaarh!! My N9 is eating some messages. This one sent from special hidden-number 09000, shows up in the notification, but now when I pressed it, it's gone :-( |
| 21:06.41 | Velmont | It was a one-time-pad code, so it's kinda non-nice that it just disappears :-) |
| 21:54.26 | daniel_o | :D |
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