IRC log for #n9 on 20111102

04:08.34*** join/#n9 pcfe (~pcfe@redhat/pcfe)
04:57.26*** join/#n9 psycho_oreos (~no@115.131.19.125)
05:05.17*** join/#n9 DocScrutinizer (~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg)
08:57.44pcfesoftware update presents me with an openssh update (so far so good), how do I check what repo it's coming from and if the package signature is OK before applying htis?
09:36.37*** join/#n9 ckuerste (~chris@206-137.203-62.cust.bluewin.ch)
10:16.09psycho_oreosoh what the f? production N9 also has test points for RF? I thought they got rid of that?
10:20.57xranbypsycho_oreos: RF like in fm radio? http://www.my-meego.com/software/applications.php?name=FM_Radio&fldAuto=488&faq=2
10:21.55*** join/#n9 hiemanshu_ (~quassel@ec2-50-17-140-12.compute-1.amazonaws.com)
10:30.09*** join/#n9 xarcass (~igorsazon@94.79.28.10)
10:31.13xranbythis radio app do work for me on my N9
10:32.28*** join/#n9 psycho_oreos (~no@115.131.19.125)
10:32.28*** join/#n9 ZogG (~zoggrules@bzq-79-177-202-146.red.bezeqint.net)
10:50.32*** join/#n9 Hardknox (~artur@Lamignat.cix.ptc.pl)
11:43.04*** join/#n9 hiemanshu (~quassel@fedora/hiemanshu)
17:51.15*** part/#n9 xranby (~xranby@labb.zafena.se)
19:33.20*** join/#n9 jesuschrist (~iop@151.66.149.95)
20:31.22jesuschrist~djs
20:31.22infobothmm... djs is http://fun.sdinet.de/pics/english/conversation-flowchart.jpg
21:38.38*** join/#n9 b00^portal (~ivan@10.81-167-85.customer.lyse.net)
21:38.51b00^portalhello now..
21:40.29jesuschristhi b00
21:41.01b00^portalso like, what you guys doing here ?
21:41.33jesuschristwe idle
21:41.43jesuschristand think
21:41.44jesuschrista lot
21:42.03b00^portalright
21:42.16b00^portalwell here is something:
21:42.27b00^portali likely need to flash my N9
21:42.36b00^portalto default firmware state before screwing around
21:42.46b00^portaldo you guys know where to get the flasher, and
21:42.50b00^portalfirmware image ?
21:42.57b00^portalme forgot my root password
21:43.02jesuschristtheres no official
21:43.06b00^portaland don't have any better idea on how to do this
21:43.09jesuschristflasher for n9
21:43.15jesuschristjust hard reset the device
21:43.20b00^portalhow?
21:43.24b00^portalreset device ?
21:43.25jesuschristsetting
21:43.33jesuschristgo in settings
21:43.43jesuschristthe last option
21:43.49jesuschristi dont know how its called in english
21:43.52jesuschristwhat do you see '
21:44.00jesuschristreset ?
21:44.01b00^portalyes, there was seomthing like that
21:44.08jesuschristdo t
21:44.09b00^portalreset sounds the likely thing
21:44.09jesuschristhat
21:44.16b00^portalok, let me try
21:44.42jesuschristyou forgot root password because you changed it ?
21:44.48b00^portalyes
21:44.51jesuschristi see
21:44.55jesuschristthen reset the device
21:45.01b00^portalsomething went screwy  while I as chanigng it
21:45.49jesuschristplug it in the charger
21:45.53jesuschristif you hard reset
21:46.05b00^portalok, what I have here is:
21:46.05jesuschristit will need 15 mins at least
21:46.09b00^portalRestore Settings
21:46.11b00^portalCLear Device
21:46.15jesuschristclear devide
21:46.16jesuschristce
21:46.16b00^portalNo "reset"
21:46.18b00^portalok
21:46.29b00^portalhmm, i will loose all my private data i guess
21:46.37jesuschristyes you will
21:46.41b00^portalnow need some sync of contacts
21:46.44b00^portalor something..
21:46.44jesuschristsave them
21:46.48b00^portalk
21:47.29jesuschristotherwise
21:47.35jesuschristyou could copy
21:47.41jesuschristthe crypted password
21:47.49jesuschristfrom a pc
21:47.53jesuschristrunning openssh
21:47.56b00^portalyea
21:47.58b00^portaland ?
21:47.59jesuschristfrom the /etc/passwd
21:48.02jesuschristfile
21:48.11jesuschristin the /etc/passwd file on the n9
21:48.16b00^portaland ?
21:48.19jesuschristnow wait you cant do that without root
21:48.23jesuschristjust hard reset
21:48.53jesuschristcant see any other way sorry :)
21:49.17b00^portalwell I'm pretty sure I can read that /etc/passwd file, but
21:49.20b00^portalwhat did you have in mind ?
21:49.31b00^portali can't see how you can recover that password for the root
21:52.52jesuschristyou copy the crypted
21:52.55jesuschristpassword
21:53.01jesuschristof root
21:53.08jesuschriston a device you know the password
21:53.16jesuschristand replace the one on the n9
21:53.17jesuschristwith it
21:53.33jesuschristbut you cant since the passwd file on the n9 requires root privileges to modify it
21:54.51jesuschristi hard resetted 6 times
21:55.00jesuschristdon t worry
21:58.01b00^portal:P
21:58.09b00^portalyou hard resetter
21:58.17b00^portalOk, will first sync my contacts
21:58.18jesuschristand
21:58.22jesuschristdont forget to save
21:58.26jesuschristthe wallpapers
21:58.28jesuschristvideos
21:58.34b00^portalhahaha, crap yea
21:58.35jesuschristand everything stock
21:58.39jesuschristbecause i lost them
21:58.41jesuschrist-_-
21:58.45b00^portalah, even stock ones ?
21:58.52jesuschristyep
21:58.53jesuschrist---
21:58.54jesuschrist-_-
21:58.55b00^portalwhat about the most important app
21:58.58b00^portalthe Angry Birds
21:59.05jesuschristlol
21:59.07jesuschriststill here
21:59.09b00^portalok
21:59.11b00^portalphew
21:59.24jesuschristi just lost wallpapers, phots and stock videos
21:59.53b00^portaljesuschrist, well man, this is now gonna take a while
21:59.58jesuschristi had to hard reset 6 times, there are some huge bugs
22:00.05b00^portalhuge bugs ???
22:00.14b00^portalwhy did you have to re-set ?
22:00.21jesuschristyeah i couldnt access nokia account
22:00.28jesuschristits a well-known issue
22:00.32b00^portalso what ?
22:00.33jesuschristfor a lot of ppl
22:00.36b00^portalwhy is it a big issue ?
22:00.44jesuschristbecause no nokia account
22:00.46jesuschristno ovi store
22:00.49b00^portalaah
22:01.10b00^portalbtw, 'community' edition of MeeGo, does that run on N9 ?
22:01.14b00^portalor you don't know
22:01.22jesuschristi dont know much
22:01.25b00^portalok
22:01.29jesuschristjust that its being developed
22:01.37jesuschristfor n900/n950 and n9
22:01.44b00^portali don't like all this nazi protection , aegis fag shit, and
22:01.49b00^portalfact that I can't insert my own kernel modules
22:01.54b00^portalor modify system soft stack
22:02.03b00^portal:P
22:02.09b00^portalnot to be a redneck
22:02.25jesuschristim pretty happy with the phone, even if it isnt the famous n900
22:02.28jesuschristto be honest
22:02.34b00^portalwell mee too
22:02.38jesuschristi just would like more apps
22:02.39b00^portalMeeToo
22:02.40b00^portal:)
22:02.42jesuschristand i will be fine
22:02.58b00^portalnot so much more apps I would like, as more freedom to insert stuff
22:03.00b00^portaland listen
22:03.02jesuschristmore apps and java support
22:03.09b00^portalah, well java is one thing I don't miss
22:03.28b00^portalvery nice phone, but
22:03.32jesuschristwell i had some apps on the phone im coming from wich are coded in java
22:03.38b00^portalsome as you said, annoying bugs on current soft version
22:03.56b00^portallike, the buggy looking screen dimming
22:04.10jesuschristi dont know that bug
22:04.13jesuschristwhat it does
22:04.15b00^portali seriously at times don't understand what is going on with it
22:04.22b00^portalwell it may be my perception of this feature
22:04.34b00^portalbut seriously, it goes bright, then darker, on and off
22:04.41b00^portaltrying to adjust to surrounding light
22:04.48b00^portaland this is something I really dislike
22:05.22jesuschristits i think autoadjusting
22:05.25jesuschristits not a bug
22:05.29b00^portalyes, but
22:05.31jesuschristyet you cant turn off that option
22:05.34b00^portalif I cannto control it
22:05.36b00^portalits a bug :)
22:05.49jesuschristits just a feature missing :p
22:05.55b00^portali've seen someone made , or writing, an app to turn it off
22:06.21b00^portalanother small thing,
22:06.28jesuschristhow much you paied your n9
22:06.32jesuschristif i could ask
22:06.43b00^portalwell i've paid , just over 5000 NOK
22:06.52b00^portalwhich is about /8 to Eur
22:07.08jesuschristnorway ?
22:07.11b00^portalyes
22:07.21b00^portalyea its a 64GB one
22:07.39jesuschrist642 euro without commision and such
22:07.51b00^portal?
22:07.57jesuschristthe conversion
22:08.10jesuschrist5000 nok = 642 euro
22:08.12b00^portal625 ?
22:08.23jesuschristyahoo finance says otherwise
22:08.28b00^portalok
22:08.38b00^portalits an expensive gadget
22:08.39jesuschristnot a prob, you are all rich in norway :D
22:08.45b00^portalbut i have not upgraded my phone for last 3 years
22:09.01b00^portaland i was very much looking forward to my first Linux phone, with pretty much amazing hardware
22:09.17jesuschristamazing design i would say
22:09.31b00^portalim just a bit dissapointed with the security part of it, and , somewhat low response on nokia developer forums
22:09.34jesuschristi paied 3500 nok
22:09.36jesuschristfor mine
22:09.43b00^portalin China ?
22:09.49jesuschristno
22:09.56jesuschristits a 16 gb
22:10.26b00^portalok, well, you have to x 1.25 that to even compare to anything you would pay here
22:10.33b00^portalthe 25% vat
22:10.48jesuschristyeah its a switzerland model
22:10.55b00^portalok
22:10.55jesuschristthey have i think 8% vat
22:12.04b00^portalmostly i have not heard in general public anything nice about the phone prior to me buying it
22:12.18jesuschristreally ?
22:12.20b00^portalyes
22:12.24jesuschristmost reviews are all positivie
22:12.29jesuschristpositive
22:12.34b00^portalall my friends think I froze my brains off in Norway
22:12.46jesuschristhehehe
22:13.02b00^portalyes, its Android that got brainwashed into everyone else's mind
22:13.18jesuschristwell android has 500.000 apps
22:13.29jesuschristand a huge dev community
22:13.36jesuschristreally huge
22:13.44b00^portalyea, and now i see they got more open approach to hardware too ... :(
22:13.55jesuschristi dont know tbh
22:14.01jesuschristnever had an android device
22:14.14b00^portalwell its poor battery life
22:14.15b00^portal:)
22:14.31jesuschristim yet to try the n9 battery life
22:14.40jesuschristive had it for 2 days
22:14.45jesuschristand i got a microsim today
22:15.01b00^portalyou could cut out it from old mini one
22:15.15b00^portalbtw, i've noticed that, after installing / enabling developer mode, it eats mor epower
22:15.25jesuschristi didnt want to risk to remain without phone calls if i had cut it wrongly :p
22:15.31b00^portali wonder if there are some services that alwasy run in developer mode
22:15.52jesuschristanother bug i found is that sometimes when you install apps from the ovi store it kills sshd from developer package
22:16.09b00^portalat least my battery profiling app (it is may be buggy) says , it went x2 up
22:16.09jesuschristopenssh for sure
22:16.12b00^portalin iddle mode
22:16.32jesuschristhow much space
22:16.34jesuschristit shows
22:16.39b00^portalspace ?
22:16.39jesuschristwhen you connect the device
22:16.40jesuschristto the pc
22:16.48jesuschristfree memory
22:16.50b00^portalah
22:17.10jesuschristfree user writeable memory from a pc
22:17.16jesuschristthe 16gb has 8.80 gb...
22:18.11b00^portali thought you talking about ram
22:18.31jesuschristno
22:19.12b00^portali think i have 52 gig
22:19.13jesuschrist"disk" free space
22:19.17b00^portalthere are quite a few mounts
22:20.21jesuschristwish they had a 32gb version
22:20.30b00^portalhey, jesuschrist , chat tomorrow me tthinks
22:20.37b00^portalhave to sleep now, work early
22:20.41jesuschristgood night dude
22:20.45b00^portalyep, nice chatting
22:20.59b00^portalwill tell you how the re-set went
22:21.08jesuschristsee you

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.