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| 13:45.15 | jesuschrist | hi |
| 13:45.24 | hiemanshu | 'lo |
| 13:45.32 | jesuschrist | sup |
| 13:49.15 | jesuschrist | found a n9 |
| 13:49.18 | jesuschrist | for 470 |
| 13:49.26 | jesuschrist | should i pull the trigger? |
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| 13:52.27 | strannik1 | Anyone know where to get the n9 in china? And how much is it over there? |
| 13:52.52 | jesuschrist | are you in china strannik1? |
| 13:53.11 | strannik1 | No i am in the uj |
| 13:53.12 | strannik1 | Uk |
| 13:53.16 | strannik1 | But my dad is |
| 13:53.31 | strannik1 | And apparently they are selling n9 phones there |
| 13:53.36 | jesuschrist | if you get in china there wont be any warranty |
| 13:53.37 | strannik1 | And i really want one!! |
| 13:53.40 | jesuschrist | you better know it |
| 13:53.45 | strannik1 | Yea i know |
| 13:53.51 | strannik1 | Where did you find the n9? |
| 13:53.56 | strannik1 | Where are you from? |
| 13:54.03 | jesuschrist | italy |
| 13:54.14 | jesuschrist | im buying one |
| 13:54.16 | jesuschrist | second hand |
| 13:54.21 | jesuschrist | 2 weeks life |
| 13:54.25 | jesuschrist | for 470 euros |
| 13:54.32 | jesuschrist | the guy bought it in swizterland |
| 13:54.53 | clbr | why is selling his phone? |
| 13:55.16 | jesuschrist | he says he didnt find the apps he had on his iphone 3gs |
| 13:55.17 | strannik1 | Make sure he has a receipt |
| 13:55.25 | jesuschrist | yeah he says he has it |
| 13:55.27 | strannik1 | Lol so why did he buy it |
| 13:55.33 | strannik1 | Coool |
| 13:55.41 | clbr | good price |
| 13:55.49 | jesuschrist | i dont know and i dont care :D im going to meet him |
| 13:55.52 | clbr | take a look at the compass hardware, mine is broken (get an exchange) |
| 13:55.52 | strannik1 | 64 or 16 gigs? |
| 13:55.55 | jesuschrist | tomorrow or monday |
| 13:55.57 | jesuschrist | 16 gb |
| 13:56.07 | jesuschrist | and ill see the phone, if theres a receipt |
| 13:56.26 | jesuschrist | clbr : compass hardware? |
| 13:56.44 | jesuschrist | 470 euro = 410 pounds anyway |
| 13:56.45 | clbr | download the compass app from ovi store an see if it works |
| 13:56.47 | jesuschrist | what do you think ? |
| 13:56.59 | strannik1 | I hope i have some sort of asian warranty with the chinese n9? I can always send it to asia for a repair? |
| 13:57.07 | jesuschrist | i will clbr |
| 13:57.16 | clbr | seems that's its not yet available in china |
| 13:57.17 | clbr | http://www.nokia.com.cn/find-products/products/nokia-n9/check-availability |
| 13:57.24 | strannik1 | Have you guys seen the white n9 |
| 13:57.29 | strannik1 | Cool |
| 13:57.32 | strannik1 | Oh |
| 13:57.35 | strannik1 | Not cool |
| 13:57.41 | jesuschrist | actually i could get a 16 gb from singapore for 400 euro |
| 13:57.47 | jesuschrist | but it comes with singa warranry |
| 13:57.51 | jesuschrist | and just 12 months |
| 13:58.04 | jesuschrist | so i should send it to singapore... |
| 13:58.41 | jesuschrist | what do you think about the price |
| 13:58.46 | jesuschrist | if its in mint condition |
| 13:59.10 | strannik1 | Www.nokia.com.cn has a big picture of the n9 on the front page |
| 13:59.15 | clbr | i guess if you want one you have to pay a price |
| 13:59.18 | strannik1 | With loads of chinese symbols |
| 13:59.37 | clbr | strannik1: use chromium/chrome for google autotranslation |
| 13:59.39 | jesuschrist | how much you paied yours clbr |
| 14:00.03 | clbr | 60 Euros for the next twelve month, but official EU-import retailer in germany |
| 14:00.16 | clbr | 720 € for the 64 GB version |
| 14:00.28 | jesuschrist | oh you got it with a contract |
| 14:00.46 | clbr | no, a simple credit model |
| 14:00.56 | jesuschrist | oh i see |
| 14:01.08 | jesuschrist | 660 euro with interests included? |
| 14:01.59 | clbr | http://www.cyberport.de/?EVENT=itemsearch&view=liste&query=nokia+n9&searchbutton.x=0&searchbutton.y=0&filterkategorie= |
| 14:02.23 | clbr | I think that it is the austrian retail version |
| 14:02.56 | jesuschrist | why is it so fucking expensive this fucking phone |
| 14:03.55 | clbr | premium phone. not nice, but actually works, is fast for what it's doing. and I'm using it extensively for VOIP/sip telephony |
| 14:04.05 | jesuschrist | happy about it clbr ? |
| 14:04.11 | jesuschrist | hope flash gonna land someday ahead |
| 14:04.15 | clbr | yes |
| 14:04.29 | clbr | flash won't land, I guess |
| 14:04.38 | jesuschrist | hmmm why not |
| 14:04.59 | clbr | nobody is interestet in paying for it |
| 14:05.13 | jesuschrist | tehres a license to pay.. ' |
| 14:05.15 | jesuschrist | ? |
| 14:05.17 | clbr | nokia is saying, it "might" come one day, but this isn't even a promise |
| 14:05.32 | jesuschrist | oh gosh |
| 14:05.41 | clbr | I think so, but also porting it so the hardware |
| 14:06.11 | clbr | and I have flash even disabled on my laptop by default, because it gets to hot |
| 14:06.31 | jesuschrist | battery life clbr ? |
| 14:06.45 | clbr | difficult to say, as I'm using it a lot currently |
| 14:07.00 | clbr | and have Wifi always active because of voip-telephony |
| 14:07.01 | jesuschrist | does it last a day with your current usage |
| 14:07.51 | clbr | yes, for normal usage. when playing games for a while, no |
| 14:08.15 | clbr | the battery thing is really difficult to measure. I would say the N9 is absolutely fine, where the N900 wasn't really |
| 14:08.59 | clbr | I bought an external akku-pack for it earlier this year, so I don't bother |
| 14:09.06 | clbr | and it recharges very fast, too |
| 14:09.16 | jesuschrist | anyway its fucking impossible to find it less than 500 euro |
| 14:09.18 | jesuschrist | ine urope |
| 14:09.21 | jesuschrist | in europe |
| 14:09.32 | jesuschrist | tried every market place, even poland and romania |
| 14:10.05 | clbr | http://geizhals.at/eu/?in=&fs=nokia+n9 |
| 14:10.41 | jesuschrist | vertrag means ? |
| 14:10.44 | jesuschrist | brandin ? |
| 14:11.07 | clbr | mine is completely free, except for a SMS-services app which comes from the SIM card |
| 14:11.29 | jesuschrist | i mean vertrang means branding ? |
| 14:12.00 | jesuschrist | cheapest one is 535 euro |
| 14:12.01 | clbr | you mean the creditp plan? no, this is completely independent from what you buy |
| 14:12.10 | jesuschrist | clbr |
| 14:12.19 | jesuschrist | vertrang the german word |
| 14:12.22 | jesuschrist | wich i found in the link |
| 14:12.24 | jesuschrist | you pasted |
| 14:12.31 | jesuschrist | what does that word mean ? |
| 14:12.38 | clbr | sorry, yes: "UMTS ohne vertrag" means just the device |
| 14:12.46 | clbr | without any carrier branding |
| 14:12.54 | jesuschrist | ok |
| 14:13.08 | jesuschrist | in the german switzerland |
| 14:13.11 | jesuschrist | they sell the n9 |
| 14:13.13 | jesuschrist | for 480 euros |
| 14:13.19 | jesuschrist | but 2 things |
| 14:13.22 | jesuschrist | 1 - custom |
| 14:13.33 | jesuschrist | 2 - they dont ship internationally |
| 14:13.53 | clbr | I was thinking about going there by train (they have a shop near bern) |
| 14:13.53 | jesuschrist | i think thats the cheapest price |
| 14:14.02 | jesuschrist | yeah i thought about it too |
| 14:14.05 | jesuschrist | but i would nee |
| 14:14.05 | jesuschrist | d |
| 14:14.06 | clbr | would have been cheaper all in all |
| 14:14.09 | jesuschrist | 6 hours |
| 14:14.17 | jesuschrist | at least 6 hours |
| 14:14.19 | clbr | but the don't have the credit plan, of course |
| 14:14.24 | jesuschrist | no they dont |
| 14:14.37 | jesuschrist | if you apply |
| 14:14.40 | jesuschrist | the difference |
| 14:14.46 | jesuschrist | i mean 6 hours are a lot |
| 14:14.53 | jesuschrist | for 60 euroes less |
| 14:14.55 | jesuschrist | not worth it |
| 14:15.03 | clbr | for me at would have been 2 days |
| 14:15.19 | clbr | one night to got there, next night to go back x) |
| 14:15.26 | jesuschrist | totally unworth |
| 14:15.49 | jesuschrist | fuck it, ill buy that model second hand |
| 14:16.07 | clbr | this sounds like a good deal if you think 16 GB is enough |
| 14:16.25 | clbr | and the device is tested good |
| 14:16.26 | jesuschrist | cant afford 200 euro more for the 64gb |
| 14:17.04 | clbr | I have the guarantee-thing here (the compass hardware) and I'm happy that I just could call the retailer and they will exchange the device |
| 14:17.16 | clbr | as soon as they get the next batch, of course :-( |
| 14:17.35 | jesuschrist | yeah warranty is something you cant renounce |
| 14:17.48 | jesuschrist | otherwise as i said |
| 14:17.52 | jesuschrist | from malesia/singapore |
| 14:17.54 | jesuschrist | 400 euro |
| 14:17.57 | clbr | but then switzerland is not singapore |
| 14:18.12 | clbr | you might just go there if you really get a hardware problem |
| 14:18.17 | jesuschrist | switzerland is in europe, so i can just take it back to nokia italy |
| 14:18.23 | jesuschrist | no need to go to switzerland |
| 14:18.28 | clbr | you're right, I forgot |
| 14:18.55 | jesuschrist | nokia applies |
| 14:19.04 | jesuschrist | the same warranty to the whole european union |
| 14:19.16 | jesuschrist | plus turkey switzerland and the scandinavian countries |
| 14:19.40 | clbr | yes, they're obliged by law and extended it to switzerland (some non-EU contries) |
| 14:19.49 | jesuschrist | yep |
| 14:20.35 | jesuschrist | i just hpe the community will port android |
| 14:20.47 | jesuschrist | as with the n900 |
| 14:21.35 | clbr | the UI is very nice, of course it has some bugs and missing features, but for me it should be very fine for the next years |
| 14:22.22 | jesuschrist | its not about the key |
| 14:22.25 | jesuschrist | ahem |
| 14:22.26 | jesuschrist | the UI |
| 14:22.32 | jesuschrist | its about missing flash |
| 14:22.39 | jesuschrist | and prolly other cool apps |
| 14:24.16 | clbr | I wouldn't bet on this as you might get disappointed. it's not so clear at the moment what is allowed by the security model |
| 14:25.04 | jesuschrist | yeah the aegis thing |
| 14:25.12 | clbr | but the hardware is basically open for completely different OS, so maybe mer/nemo (formerly known as meego CE) will get in a good shape for daily usage |
| 14:26.32 | jesuschrist | uh |
| 14:29.00 | strannik1 | Hey |
| 14:29.45 | jesuschrist | hey |
| 14:29.55 | strannik1 | Whatsup |
| 14:30.24 | strannik1 | So is there a n9 in china i cant tell? |
| 14:30.35 | DocScrutinizer | jesuschrist: I always missed the rationale behind "buy a Nokia >maemo/meego< device, then throw andridiot on it" |
| 14:30.52 | DocScrutinizer | if you want an adridiot device, why not just buy one? |
| 14:31.15 | jesuschrist | i would if someone is going to port maemo to it doc |
| 14:31.28 | DocScrutinizer | hrey are cheaper than Nokia meego devices, better adaption of andridiot, and better long term support |
| 14:32.06 | jesuschrist | im yet to buy anything |
| 14:32.13 | DocScrutinizer | forget about meego/andidiot dualboot setup, not working even with MOSLO |
| 14:32.22 | jesuschrist | moslo meaning ? |
| 14:32.32 | DocScrutinizer | Meego OS LOader |
| 14:32.42 | jesuschrist | hmm |
| 14:33.17 | jesuschrist | and why is not working |
| 14:33.46 | DocScrutinizer | basically an initrd that allows you to boot a custom kernel (which is sth you wouldn't need MOSLO for) but also allows you to operate device in mass storage mode and access all the eMMC and possibly even NAND storage |
| 14:34.54 | DocScrutinizer | it's not working as MOSLO will make device boot into open mode unconditionally, and you can't go from openmode MOSLO to secure mode HARM kernel |
| 14:36.01 | DocScrutinizer | so from MOSLO you can boot into open mode HARM which, as we're just discussing on #harmattan, is worth nothing really as many of the Nokia closed apps will cease to work |
| 14:36.23 | jesuschrist | nice |
| 14:36.37 | DocScrutinizer | btw MOSLO even nukes your HARM rootfs on installation |
| 14:36.47 | strannik1 | Grr talking to my dad , trying to see if he knows when china is getting the n9 |
| 14:37.18 | jesuschrist | ao basically |
| 14:37.24 | jesuschrist | harmattan |
| 14:37.28 | jesuschrist | will no have support |
| 14:37.29 | jesuschrist | AND |
| 14:37.39 | jesuschrist | you cant devel a shit on it |
| 14:37.41 | jesuschrist | right ? |
| 14:40.02 | strannik1 | Harm? |
| 14:40.25 | strannik1 | Whats up with all these MOSLO names |
| 14:40.26 | strannik1 | Lol |
| 14:40.30 | DocScrutinizer | not sure about the support, but yes you only can develop things that Nokia allows you to develop, which basically is QML apps using only QML and qt-mobility system functions |
| 14:41.29 | DocScrutinizer | jesuschrist: anyway if you want to discuss development details you probably should /join #harmattan, this is where development gets discussed |
| 14:42.46 | DocScrutinizer | for end user it's just like "you can install from OVI, and you can install from 'unknown source' if you enable that in settings" |
| 14:44.07 | clbr | I would consider having a non-removable facebook app as branding, btw |
| 14:44.14 | DocScrutinizer | and you can't run any concurrent OS besides HARM on the device, though you can switch to e.g. meegoCE aka nano(?) completely and forget about the original OS |
| 14:45.04 | jesuschrist | im reading the meego forum |
| 14:45.16 | clbr | DocScrutinizer: what I didn't understand yet: is it possible to go back to HARM completely once there is a flasher image availbe for the N9? |
| 14:45.31 | DocScrutinizer | yes, afaik |
| 14:46.10 | DocScrutinizer | it's unclear if the "Your warranty gets void **permanently**" bit gets stored anywhere |
| 14:46.42 | DocScrutinizer | but flashing HARM proper should be possible once the flasher for N9 is available |
| 14:47.13 | DocScrutinizer | on N950 it's possible right now (alas the N950 comes with "no warranty" ootb) |
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| 17:09.57 | jesuschrist | ok guys |
| 17:10.00 | jesuschrist | found another |
| 17:10.03 | jesuschrist | for 430 euro |
| 17:10.31 | jesuschrist | whats happening :d why is it depricing so fast :D |
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| 17:11.29 | jesuschrist | hi strannik1 |
| 17:11.37 | jesuschrist | found the china n9 ? |
| 17:13.26 | strannik1 | Jesuschrist: hey |
| 17:13.38 | strannik1 | Well my dad will ask some colleagues on monday |
| 17:13.47 | jesuschrist | how much are you willing to pay max |
| 17:13.50 | jesuschrist | ? |
| 17:14.04 | strannik1 | The nokia site seems to give some phone numbers to contact local shops in china |
| 17:14.23 | strannik1 | Well i am a broke student |
| 17:14.24 | strannik1 | Right now |
| 17:14.38 | jesuschrist | i found a n9 for 377 pounds |
| 17:14.41 | jesuschrist | 16 gb |
| 17:14.42 | strannik1 | But my dad is in china , so he said he will get it there if he can find it |
| 17:14.49 | strannik1 | Lol i am tempted |
| 17:14.51 | strannik1 | New? |
| 17:15.05 | jesuschrist | they say so |
| 17:15.17 | jesuschrist | wait, its in italy :D |
| 17:15.29 | jesuschrist | ill get it on monday, already made the deal :D |
| 17:15.33 | strannik1 | In china its about 4999 i read somewhere |
| 17:15.41 | jesuschrist | how much pounds ? |
| 17:15.43 | strannik1 | Which is about 499 euros |
| 17:15.50 | strannik1 | About 400 |
| 17:15.54 | jesuschrist | thats a lot |
| 17:15.57 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 17:15.59 | jesuschrist | www.sgbest.com |
| 17:16.04 | jesuschrist | check that |
| 17:16.07 | jesuschrist | its 410 euros |
| 17:16.11 | jesuschrist | but no warranty |
| 17:16.25 | strannik1 | Why no warranty? |
| 17:16.38 | jesuschrist | you get singapore warranty |
| 17:16.43 | strannik1 | Oh ok |
| 17:16.45 | jesuschrist | wich in fact is like not having one |
| 17:16.49 | jesuschrist | imo |
| 17:16.50 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 17:16.53 | strannik1 | True |
| 17:17.14 | strannik1 | Unless you have a friend there |
| 17:17.20 | strannik1 | But its a mission and a half |
| 17:17.28 | jesuschrist | you still have to pay to send it to them |
| 17:17.29 | strannik1 | I got an ex girlfriend in singapore |
| 17:17.29 | jesuschrist | and wait |
| 17:17.44 | jesuschrist | ex.. :p |
| 17:18.08 | strannik1 | She might steal the phone lol if i end it to her |
| 17:18.23 | jesuschrist | :D |
| 17:18.54 | strannik1 | But damm its such a nice phone |
| 17:18.58 | strannik1 | Cant wait to have it |
| 17:19.03 | jesuschrist | im quite happy to have found it for 430 euro |
| 17:19.17 | strannik1 | Its weird that in china theyre introducing both the n9 and the wp7 version |
| 17:19.23 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 17:19.31 | jesuschrist | maybe at the meeting they gonna just punch me and get my money |
| 17:19.53 | jesuschrist | anyway theres another thing to consider |
| 17:19.56 | jesuschrist | the asian phones |
| 17:20.02 | jesuschrist | malaysia singapore and china |
| 17:20.03 | strannik1 | Are you going to italy for it? |
| 17:20.04 | jesuschrist | are made in china |
| 17:20.10 | strannik1 | Really??!!!!! |
| 17:20.13 | jesuschrist | yeah |
| 17:20.19 | jesuschrist | while euro ones are made in finland |
| 17:20.22 | strannik1 | Ouch |
| 17:20.24 | jesuschrist | i do live in italy :D |
| 17:20.28 | strannik1 | Ahh ok |
| 17:20.30 | strannik1 | Fair enoug |
| 17:21.05 | jesuschrist | still i cant understand why the bought it for 500/550 euro and are selling it for 430 |
| 17:21.10 | jesuschrist | after few days |
| 17:21.44 | strannik1 | Do you look for it on ebay? |
| 17:21.48 | jesuschrist | no |
| 17:21.58 | jesuschrist | an italian craiglist |
| 17:22.07 | jesuschrist | ebay are overpriced |
| 17:22.30 | jesuschrist | http://subito.it/telefonia/nokia-n9-nero-varese-32628885.htm |
| 17:22.33 | strannik1 | Ahh cool |
| 17:22.43 | strannik1 | I might try amazon |
| 17:23.30 | jesuschrist | .uk ? |
| 17:23.42 | strannik1 | Yea checking it now |
| 17:23.48 | strannik1 | To see if they have anything |
| 17:24.15 | strannik1 | Ok they dont |
| 17:24.44 | jesuschrist | lol |
| 17:25.27 | strannik1 | Some website is selling it for 539 pounds .. It doesnt even say if its 16 or 64 |
| 17:25.42 | strannik1 | i heard germany will have n9 through amazon |
| 17:26.04 | jesuschrist | they have |
| 17:26.08 | jesuschrist | too pricey |
| 17:26.10 | strannik1 | Oh |
| 17:28.09 | strannik1 | Is a chinese n9 a lot worse than a finnish n9? |
| 17:28.19 | strannik1 | Or is the build quality the same |
| 17:28.27 | strannik1 | I know everyone hates made in chine |
| 17:28.37 | strannik1 | But maybe its ok? Haha its a risk?! |
| 17:29.19 | jesuschrist | i dont really know |
| 17:29.29 | jesuschrist | i guess would be pretty much the same |
| 17:29.56 | jesuschrist | i would buy the china one if not for the warranty if it was less expensive |
| 17:30.06 | jesuschrist | anyway im going to pick it up monday |
| 17:30.07 | jesuschrist | :> |
| 17:31.10 | strannik1 | Cool . Good luck. And have fun |
| 17:31.17 | strannik1 | Maybe i will go to the casino |
| 17:31.19 | jesuschrist | gonna need luck |
| 17:31.33 | strannik1 | Put all my money on red and if i win i will buy a european n9 :) |
| 17:31.34 | jesuschrist | you still didnt say how much you will to pay for it |
| 17:31.55 | strannik1 | I said . Right now i dont have money . I am a student |
| 17:32.04 | strannik1 | But my dad is in china |
| 17:32.13 | strannik1 | So maybe he can buy it there |
| 17:32.21 | strannik1 | It costs about 500 euros |
| 17:33.06 | jesuschrist | yeah whatever, so max 500 euro ? |
| 17:34.11 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 17:34.51 | strannik1 | Maybe if i win loads of money in the casino i will buy it |
| 17:34.56 | strannik1 | And a stripper :D |
| 17:35.06 | strannik1 | AMEN )) |
| 17:35.13 | strannik1 | :D |
| 17:35.14 | strannik1 | Haha |
| 17:35.48 | strannik1 | There was a guy from israel asking if i knew someone from israel |
| 17:35.50 | jesuschrist | a 64gb stripper |
| 17:35.53 | strannik1 | I said you were there ;) |
| 17:35.56 | strannik1 | Hahaha yea |
| 17:36.13 | strannik1 | Oh i remember you saw |
| 17:39.06 | jesuschrist | yep |
| 17:40.09 | strannik1 | Jesuschrist: are you a developer? |
| 17:40.17 | jesuschrist | no |
| 17:40.31 | jesuschrist | im a sysop |
| 17:40.44 | strannik1 | Cool |
| 17:41.16 | strannik1 | I am quite excited because there are loads of hobby developers |
| 17:41.38 | jesuschrist | i have to call back the guy who offered me the n9 for 470 |
| 17:41.45 | jesuschrist | to say "hey i found another cheaper" |
| 17:41.55 | strannik1 | Haha :) |
| 17:41.59 | jesuschrist | i hope they gonna make a mess out of n9 like the n900 |
| 17:42.01 | jesuschrist | :D |
| 17:42.20 | strannik1 | I hope they will take aegis apart |
| 17:42.34 | strannik1 | Some people already know how to bypass it |
| 17:42.51 | strannik1 | But for now they want to keep quiet |
| 17:42.57 | strannik1 | So nokia doesnt know |
| 17:43.04 | jesuschrist | really ? |
| 17:43.07 | jesuschrist | how do you know ? |
| 17:43.30 | jesuschrist | i thought aegis was unbreakable |
| 17:43.34 | jesuschrist | till now |
| 17:44.27 | strannik1 | Well i am not sure |
| 17:44.42 | jesuschrist | they said in the channel ? |
| 17:44.52 | strannik1 | On the forums javispedro was talking about it |
| 17:45.18 | strannik1 | In beta1 he found a way to disable it using the fakeadmin privilages |
| 17:45.43 | strannik1 | After he discovered it nokia reduced the fakeadmin powers |
| 17:45.50 | jesuschrist | lol |
| 17:45.51 | strannik1 | So now the trick does not work |
| 17:46.01 | jesuschrist | they are reading the forum ? |
| 17:46.03 | strannik1 | But he says he knows another way |
| 17:46.13 | strannik1 | I dont know if he filed it as a bug |
| 17:46.22 | strannik1 | I wanted to ask him , but he is not here |
| 17:46.34 | strannik1 | Lol it would be kinda good though if they read the forums |
| 17:47.03 | strannik1 | It took them about 2 years to fix the nokia e72 keyboard driver |
| 17:47.18 | strannik1 | And i complained on the forums a lot... So i kinda doubt they read it |
| 17:47.57 | strannik1 | I even called nokia in finland to complain about the driver problems ... It took em more than a year to fix it after i called em |
| 17:48.30 | strannik1 | What phone do you use? |
| 17:48.50 | jesuschrist | e79 |
| 17:48.52 | jesuschrist | e70 |
| 17:48.53 | jesuschrist | .p |
| 17:49.03 | jesuschrist | :p |
| 17:49.08 | strannik1 | Cool |
| 17:49.52 | strannik1 | Ahh nice it has a cool keypad |
| 17:50.35 | jesuschrist | its a uber shitty phone |
| 17:50.37 | strannik1 | WirelessIRC the best irc client ever! |
| 17:50.54 | strannik1 | Man i dont understand why people hate symbian so much |
| 17:51.10 | strannik1 | Symbian is awesome for phones with buttons |
| 17:51.15 | strannik1 | And a small screen |
| 17:51.32 | strannik1 | Infact it probably is the best os for phones with buttons and small screens |
| 17:51.41 | jesuschrist | i had it for 3 years |
| 17:51.45 | jesuschrist | i have my reasons |
| 17:51.47 | jesuschrist | :p |
| 17:52.11 | strannik1 | What are the reason? |
| 17:52.16 | strannik1 | Reasons? |
| 17:53.09 | strannik1 | It looks pretty cool. The only reason i havnt got a touchscreen phone is because i really dont like android or ios |
| 17:53.10 | jesuschrist | browser |
| 17:53.18 | jesuschrist | and slowness |
| 17:53.22 | jesuschrist | and the modem sucks |
| 17:53.27 | jesuschrist | this sums it all |
| 17:53.29 | strannik1 | Fair enough |
| 17:53.39 | jesuschrist | the keyboard is pretty good |
| 17:54.02 | strannik1 | Yea time for an upgrade :) |
| 17:54.11 | jesuschrist | guess so :) |
| 17:54.15 | jesuschrist | so you use a e72 ? |
| 17:54.24 | strannik1 | Yea e72 and i have an e71 |
| 17:54.36 | strannik1 | When they brought out the e72 the keyboard was fucked |
| 17:54.37 | jesuschrist | both successors of mine :P |
| 17:54.50 | strannik1 | They are awesome phones |
| 17:55.09 | strannik1 | Symbian is a lot better than blackberry os |
| 17:55.30 | jesuschrist | symbian is ok, but my e70 is too slow |
| 17:55.33 | jesuschrist | rly |
| 17:55.38 | jesuschrist | unbearable anymore |
| 17:55.40 | strannik1 | Nokia made the mistake of porting symbian to touchscreen phones .. Big mistake |
| 17:55.42 | jesuschrist | and the browser sucks |
| 17:55.48 | strannik1 | Yea i can imagine |
| 17:55.55 | jesuschrist | cant make voip calls because of the modem |
| 17:55.57 | strannik1 | Try opera mini |
| 17:56.03 | jesuschrist | tried |
| 17:56.11 | jesuschrist | it wont |
| 17:56.18 | jesuschrist | change angolation of view |
| 17:56.19 | strannik1 | Well the browser isnt bad .. Its just the phone is too weak to handle the browser |
| 17:56.26 | strannik1 | Oh |
| 17:56.37 | jesuschrist | because once you open the keyboard on e70 |
| 17:56.43 | jesuschrist | you change the screen perspective |
| 17:56.50 | strannik1 | I think there is an option in operamini how you can change the angle |
| 17:56.52 | jesuschrist | symbian natual browser does rotate |
| 17:56.58 | strannik1 | Yeaa |
| 17:57.00 | jesuschrist | i didnt find the option |
| 17:57.12 | strannik1 | Maybe its in the newest version |
| 17:57.31 | strannik1 | Also if you are paranoid operamini uses a proxy server |
| 17:58.06 | jesuschrist | oh |
| 17:58.07 | jesuschrist | :p |
| 17:58.09 | jesuschrist | anyway |
| 17:58.21 | jesuschrist | im trowing this shit in the river on monday |
| 17:58.26 | jesuschrist | so i wont care :D |
| 17:58.31 | strannik1 | Hahaha :) |
| 18:00.01 | jesuschrist | anyway the community on #harmattan seems big enough |
| 18:00.04 | jesuschrist | so i have hopes |
| 18:00.59 | jesuschrist | brb |
| 18:01.00 | jesuschrist | dinner |
| 18:01.27 | strannik1 | Alright |
| 18:01.42 | strannik1 | Yea community seems good! |
| 18:46.42 | jesuschrist | im back |
| 21:11.20 | strannik1 | Jesuschrist: hey |
| 21:11.50 | strannik1 | Apparently there is some lag in harmattan |
| 21:12.35 | strannik1 | D: |
| 21:18.04 | jesuschrist | what ? |
| 21:18.09 | jesuschrist | what lag ? |
| 21:20.39 | strannik1 | In a scenario when you are scrolling and a message appears |
| 21:21.04 | jesuschrist | what happens |
| 21:21.06 | jesuschrist | lag ? |
| 21:21.13 | strannik1 | Yea |
| 21:21.15 | jesuschrist | gonna be fixed -_- |
| 21:21.32 | strannik1 | Or if you scroll and tap the top navigation bar |
| 21:21.38 | strannik1 | Hopefully |
| 21:22.20 | jesuschrist | tomorrow ill call the guy selling the n9 |
| 21:22.26 | jesuschrist | and im goign to ask for the serial |
| 21:22.34 | jesuschrist | to check before im gonna get screwed up |
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| 21:33.28 | zogg_laptop | hey |
| 21:34.44 | jesuschrist | hi zogg |
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| 22:53.13 | DocScrutinizer | there's been a way to change aegis' shells to blank in 34-x, in recent update which also is missing source from Nokia they tightened all the aegis stuff even more, and we don't like to disclose the last few loopholes so Nokia will fix them as well |
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| 23:46.03 | strannik1 | DocScrutinizer: hi |
| 23:46.14 | strannik1 | If you are still here |
| 23:52.55 | strannik1 | DocScrutinizer: please be here. I wanted to know how nokia found out about the community bypassing aegis? Did someone file a bug report? Or is nokia actually reading the forums/irc channels??? |