| 03:23.54 | *** join/#metawatch infobot (~infobot@rikers.org) |
| 03:23.54 | *** topic/#metawatch is Welcome to #Metawatch - www.metawatch.org - Discuss your metawatch hacking here! |
| 03:25.31 | DocScrutinizer | I wonder if ibot logs channels without me registering them |
| 03:25.50 | DocScrutinizer | ~logs |
| 03:25.50 | infobot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/%23metawatch/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 03:26.04 | Radix-wrk | Oh nice |
| 03:27.25 | DocScrutinizer | I guess I'd need to do a full registration of the chan, maybe even need Tim's magic-admin forces to setup the web page |
| 03:28.24 | *** topic/#metawatch by Radix-wrk -> Welcome to #Metawatch IRC - www.metawatch.org - Discuss your metawatch hacking here! - Latest Firmware: 0.7.28 AMM: 0.2.2 |
| 03:30.50 | Radix-wrk | If anyone recommends anything else channel wise - let me know - otherwise I'm happy to keep it simple and stay out of the way ;) |
| 03:31.50 | DocScrutinizer | actuallly it seems to log even without chan added to chanlist for autojoin etc, just takes a day or so to show up on http://ibot.rikers.org/* - this is no livelog |
| 03:32.23 | Radix-wrk | So do you have a metawatch yet DocScrutinizer? |
| 03:32.35 | DocScrutinizer | no money :-/ |
| 03:33.03 | Radix-wrk | ka010: do you have a metawatch? |
| 03:33.19 | Radix-wrk | Surely I'm not the only one here with one |
| 03:33.40 | Radix-wrk | need to get JoeH on here.. I want to quiz him about his prototyping stuff ;) |
| 03:35.01 | DocScrutinizer | /invite javispedro |
| 03:35.24 | ka010 | ah looks like i missed something |
| 03:35.26 | DocScrutinizer | he'll moan, another irc channel to join :-P |
| 03:35.28 | ka010 | Radix-wrk: sure do |
| 03:36.01 | Radix-wrk | Well if you have any questions.. I'm enjoying mine - got the digital one and it's pretty cool, though I want to get the final api docs (specifically intents) so I can do more with it |
| 03:36.29 | Radix-wrk | ka010: cool.. glad to hear I'm not the only one here with one :) |
| 03:36.48 | ka010 | Radix-wrk: heh same here ;) |
| 03:36.59 | ka010 | Radix-wrk: any luck doing something cool with it yet ? |
| 03:37.43 | Radix-wrk | I've been trying to nut out the intents interface, but can't get a response - JoeH seemed to imply that there were probs with it atm tho |
| 03:38.10 | Radix-wrk | I'm using SL4A's python interface to broadcast the intent |
| 03:38.21 | ka010 | yeah, ran into that as well seems like we'll have to wait for an update or the mwm sources |
| 03:38.58 | ka010 | I've tried the python interface but it wouldn't work on lion |
| 03:39.17 | ka010 | didn't have much luck on android either |
| 03:39.29 | Radix-wrk | I've never done intent code tho.. so could be passing the wrong parameters, etc |
| 03:39.51 | Radix-wrk | http://pastebin.com/WPASfqCi was what I used |
| 03:40.41 | ka010 | I'm not much of an android guy either, but I got the same results as described in the forums, e.g. buttons only work for the lower left one and the notification intent displays but crashes mwm afterwards |
| 03:41.49 | ka010 | ah got that wrong, thought you meant the pc python code posted in the forums, didn't know you could run regular python an android |
| 03:42.01 | ka010 | as said I'm an iOS dev actually |
| 03:42.27 | Radix-wrk | yeah, sl4a - scripting layer 4 android allows you to run python, beanshell, ruby, etc all on android |
| 03:43.12 | Radix-wrk | I'm a windows c++ dev myself, android enthusiast but not really a dev |
| 03:43.22 | ka010 | sounds cool, I'd definetly prefer python over java |
| 03:43.31 | Radix-wrk | teaching myself python as I go |
| 03:43.55 | DocScrutinizer | well, seems javispedro did some refresh rate evaluations. [2011-09-16 02:35:23] <javispedro> by experimentation I've found around 25ms per each two lines updated avoids crashes [2011-09-16 02:36:01] <javispedro> therefore, 40 fps if all you update is two lines per frame, which is not bad... |
| 03:44.05 | ka010 | from what I can tell, the snippet looks perfectly fine |
| 03:44.23 | ka010 | cool good to know |
| 03:44.52 | Radix-wrk | what channel is javispedro on then DocScrutinizer? |
| 03:45.07 | DocScrutinizer | #maemo, #harmattan |
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| 08:55.28 | DocScrutinizer | morning |
| 08:57.15 | orlovsky | Morning to you too, sir. |
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| 10:14.42 | Radix-wrk | hey orlovsky |
| 10:19.22 | orlovsky | Hey @Radix-wrk, what's up? |
| 10:19.51 | Radix-wrk | just recognised your name from the forums and saying hi :) |
| 10:20.43 | orlovsky | aha! Hey! :) |
| 10:21.14 | Radix-wrk | you got a metawatch? |
| 11:37.04 | orlovsky | Yeah, although I haven't had time to play with it yet. |
| 11:37.25 | orlovsky | and, noticed that I'm only getting around 48ish hrs between charges. which isn't good. :( |
| 11:37.50 | orlovsky | Hopefully I'll get a long enough gap to sit down and have a play this weekend. |
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| 12:11.44 | dm8tbr | whoa? there's actual hardware out there? I got bored by the constant delays and bought me a liveview... |
| 12:12.31 | orlovsky | @dm8tbr yeah, they started shipping the digital version last week. Analog is still delayed. |
| 12:13.00 | orlovsky | how's the liveview? I've heard mixed things. |
| 12:16.41 | dm8tbr | as a watch it gets quite good mileage (I seldomly use the bluetooth feature so far) |
| 12:16.57 | dm8tbr | I need to find some time and hack the python code I found for talking to it |
| 12:17.50 | dm8tbr | one downside is that as it's OLED the display dims quickly and turns off briefly after that to save power |
| 12:19.05 | dm8tbr | besides that it works quite fine. One application I liked when using with regular android is google 2-factor auth. |
| 12:19.38 | dm8tbr | so you can turn it into something like an rsa-securid token |
| 12:20.27 | dm8tbr | it seems completely dumb though. I don't think there is any code running on the device besides the firmware. probably just bitmaps being sent over bt |
| 12:51.53 | orlovsky | that's pretty handy though |
| 13:05.15 | dm8tbr | for now my target is seemingly simple: get call notifications working in combination with the N9(50) |
| 13:05.42 | dm8tbr | let's see if I can find some spare time... |
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| 16:25.09 | GeneralAntilles | dm8tbr, you getting one too? |
| 16:26.19 | dm8tbr | GeneralAntilles: I have a LiveView, the Metawatch is probably still only shipping in homeopathic doses while I've had my LiveView now for two months or so |
| 16:26.42 | GeneralAntilles | Yes, apparently the next batch is due mid-October (grrr) |
| 16:26.54 | dm8tbr | no further comments... |
| 16:27.59 | GeneralAntilles | Still trying to get an answer from TI about why mine wasn't in the first batch. |
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| 19:40.17 | javispedro | GeneralAntilles: DocScrutinizer: dm8tbr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gyIET0gWJ0 ;) |
| 19:40.47 | GeneralAntilles | Dang. |
| 19:41.46 | GeneralAntilles | MWKNed |
| 19:41.49 | javispedro | dang what? You where hoping I lied to you and wished that I had not received the watch yet? =) |
| 19:42.11 | GeneralAntilles | No, expression of impressednessedness. |
| 19:42.14 | GeneralAntilles | (bastard) |
| 19:42.16 | GeneralAntilles | (spit!) |
| 19:42.58 | javispedro | hehe |
| 19:43.32 | javispedro | the framerate is much, much better than what you get with pymetawatch, which virtually takes a minute or so to send the picture of a bird |
| 19:43.35 | javispedro | thank god. |
| 19:44.23 | GeneralAntilles | Cool |
| 20:01.22 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: well, pymetawatch is obviously borked to the bones then |
| 20:02.38 | javispedro | it just has a few delays that are seemingly unneeded |
| 20:02.44 | javispedro | possibly required on a previous fw, dunno. |
| 20:04.13 | DocScrutinizer | your 25ms delay? |
| 20:04.18 | javispedro | yep |
| 20:04.41 | DocScrutinizer | well, I hope they'll open up the fw sources soon |
| 20:04.59 | DocScrutinizer | seems the fw needs some patches |
| 20:05.29 | javispedro | this reminds me |
| 20:05.35 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer: http://www.metawatch.org/forums/thread/58/battery-cutoff-voltage =) |
| 20:05.48 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: you meanwhile found a way to make the draw buffer contain a a proper copy of *recent* display? |
| 20:06.16 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer: yeah, it was me filling a reserved field with garbage _plus_ a typo on the manual that cause random lines to be filled with garbage =) |
| 20:06.42 | javispedro | on the write buffer cmd, the "reserved" byte is actually rowB index |
| 20:06.53 | javispedro | and the actual rowB contents start one byte earlier |
| 20:07.42 | javispedro | (already notified metawatch.org via forums) |
| 20:09.53 | DocScrutinizer | hehe. and OUCH to 2.5V cutout |
| 20:11.14 | DocScrutinizer | I need to get my application ready. Seems metawatch inc. could use some DocScrutinizer in the general QA, like OM did |
| 20:12.30 | DocScrutinizer | and a huge OMG to the fact it's seemingly again sth similar to BME that acts up fist ;-P |
| 20:12.50 | DocScrutinizer | first* |
| 20:13.27 | DocScrutinizer | ponders to implement some auto-replace s/fist/first/ |
| 20:19.28 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: I think a way to just replace the QDesktopWidget(or whatever its called) Object by something that renders the desktop widget to metawatch's screen rather than to maemo desktop, that could be a great method to revamp arbitrary widgets to use the MW |
| 20:22.26 | javispedro | DocScrutinizer: there are no widgets in harm, and on fremantle, they're GDesktopWidgets not Q ;) |
| 20:22.55 | DocScrutinizer | ooh, so G then |
| 20:23.07 | DocScrutinizer | the concept remains the same |
| 20:23.23 | DocScrutinizer | and, sorry, fsck HARM |
| 20:25.35 | DocScrutinizer | honestly I could as well go for a *decent* android (or iOS) rather than this harmattan abomination, at least when it comes to UI |
| 20:27.24 | DocScrutinizer | on harm there's no such thing like a desktop, so obviously no desktop widgets, so nothing that would be a nice starting point for a MW display |
| 21:05.38 | GeneralAntilles | No desktop on iOS either. |
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| 21:18.41 | thescreensavers | hello |
| 21:18.46 | GeneralAntilles | Howdy |
| 21:18.58 | GeneralAntilles | Fellow Floridian? |
| 21:19.08 | thescreensavers | Yep :) |
| 21:19.18 | GeneralAntilles | Ha |
| 21:19.20 | GeneralAntilles | Small world. |
| 21:19.21 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: guess why there's no desktop on this me-too harmattan ;-P |
| 21:19.34 | thescreensavers | What part you from? |
| 21:19.34 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, not very me-too. |
| 21:19.38 | GeneralAntilles | St. Petersburg |
| 21:19.43 | thescreensavers | ah Miami here |
| 21:20.59 | GeneralAntilles | Here 'cause you got a watch or just interested? |
| 21:21.38 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: completely me-too, lock everything to appsto... err ovistore, try making money with selling apps rather than selling decent hw, sandbox all development into dalvi... err qtm or whatever it's called |
| 21:22.02 | thescreensavers | General: I ordered the analog version back in mid may :) |
| 21:22.16 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, exaggerated distortions and you know it. :P |
| 21:22.31 | thescreensavers | still " Status: Processing" :( but Bill said they should start to ship the week o the 26th |
| 21:22.45 | DocScrutinizer | sure, sometimes you have to exaggerate to make your point |
| 21:22.48 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, waiting on my digital pre-order. . . . |
| 21:22.57 | thescreensavers | when did you pre oder it? |
| 21:23.04 | GeneralAntilles | August |
| 21:23.07 | thescreensavers | ah :P |
| 21:23.10 | GeneralAntilles | So not sure why it didn't go out with the first batch. |
| 21:23.15 | javispedro | hides |
| 21:23.30 | thescreensavers | The pre order opend in May dude, 3 months of pre orderes > you apparently :D |
| 21:23.39 | GeneralAntilles | thescreensavers, yes, unless you're javispedro. |
| 21:24.02 | thescreensavers | lol so I am guessing he orderd his after you and got his? |
| 21:24.07 | javispedro | I preordered last week =) |
| 21:24.11 | thescreensavers | and got it? |
| 21:24.20 | GeneralAntilles | He's already got a sweet QML demo up. |
| 21:24.23 | javispedro | and have it here already :) |
| 21:24.26 | thescreensavers | lol |
| 21:24.31 | thescreensavers | iirc people had some billing issues |
| 21:24.35 | GeneralAntilles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gyIET0gWJ0 |
| 21:24.49 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, asked the eStore support if there was anything wrong |
| 21:24.52 | thescreensavers | General: email support make sure things are still good |
| 21:24.52 | GeneralAntilles | They say no |
| 21:24.58 | GeneralAntilles | I just got screwed. |
| 21:25.00 | thescreensavers | ah |
| 21:25.01 | thescreensavers | lol |
| 21:25.10 | thescreensavers | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:25.20 | GeneralAntilles | Nope, Ab. . . . |
| 21:25.34 | thescreensavers | lol, then who knows why TI's system did not say to ship yours ha |
| 21:26.10 | GeneralAntilles | "This guy. Pff. Put him at the back of the pile." |
| 21:26.14 | thescreensavers | lol |
| 21:27.00 | thescreensavers | Is the MetaWatch program for Android(MWM) I think its called. Based off Open Watch? |
| 21:27.37 | GeneralAntilles | Seems like there was a thread about that on the forums. |
| 21:27.42 | GeneralAntilles | isn't an Android guy, so doesn't care. |
| 21:27.46 | thescreensavers | lol |
| 21:27.48 | thescreensavers | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554551 |
| 21:28.01 | thescreensavers | They look very similar |
| 21:28.03 | GeneralAntilles | Isn't Open Watch closed source anyway? |
| 21:28.31 | thescreensavers | no idea |
| 21:28.39 | javispedro | it says so on that link |
| 21:28.44 | thescreensavers | then I guess it is lol |
| 21:29.27 | thescreensavers | So General: if you do not have an android phone you just buying the watch to play with on the PC? |
| 21:30.08 | javispedro | we all have our phones =) |
| 21:30.41 | thescreensavers | Yea, but I thought for now atleast there is no way for it to work on other devices |
| 21:31.01 | javispedro | hehe, we're working on it =) |
| 21:31.12 | thescreensavers | nice :) |
| 21:31.31 | thescreensavers | though on iOS I thought its impossible since the way it does things? (Not an apple guy) lol |
| 21:31.33 | GeneralAntilles | thescreensavers, N950. |
| 21:31.55 | thescreensavers | ^ thats a neat looking phone |
| 21:33.21 | thescreensavers | I have Droid X, Its over a year old now and it still feels new to me its nuts |
| 21:33.32 | thescreensavers | I have had phones which after 3 months I want to kill my self with lol |
| 21:34.35 | thescreensavers | I wonder what the Ratio is for Analog vs Digital Metawatches |
| 21:35.02 | thescreensavers | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.06 | thescreensavers | and it looks nice |
| 21:40.29 | GeneralAntilles | I would've gotten analog |
| 21:40.38 | GeneralAntilles | but it's huge, no seconds hand and the screens are too small. |