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03:12.12newjori want to use a usb_camera which of chip driver is zc3xx,  on meego this driver didn't configed into kernel or module, now i want to config this driver to a module,how should i do? do i need to recompile a meego-kernel?
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03:27.30newjori want to use a usb_camera which of chip driver is zc3xx,  on meego this driver didn't configed into kernel or module, now i want to config this driver to a module,how should i do? do i need to recompile a meego-kernel?
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04:09.53iekkumorning
04:10.34berndhsyeah almost time for sleep
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04:16.26iekkuberndhs, :)
04:16.46iekkuit's 7:15 am in finland and this is going to be very nice day :)
04:17.00berndhsgood
04:17.19berndhsits 0:15 in canada, and another crappy day coming up
04:17.20iekku(4 day vacation starting at 11 am :)  )
04:17.26berndhsawful weather
04:18.13gabrbeddit's 23:18 in texas and the fires are burning bright....
04:18.34iekkuberndhs, oh? it was snowing here also yesterday
04:18.38berndhsyes weather is worse in the middle of the continent
04:18.52iekkuberndhs, my morning was like your evening then...
04:19.05berndhsspring is late
04:19.12iekkuspring?
04:19.20iekkui heard they cancelled it
04:19.21iekku:P
04:19.30berndhsprobably, budget cuts
04:19.39iekku:D
04:19.54iekkuyou know, keeping up the heating system etc
04:20.05berndhsyes, expensive
04:20.24gabrbeddno, the groundhog specifically called for an early spring.
04:20.43gabrbeddIf you developers can't deliver it...
04:20.44berndhsthen he drowned in a t-storm
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04:21.01gabrbeddWe'll just have to switch to WP7
04:21.16berndhsim switching to gnome3
04:21.27berndhsworked for good 1/2 day
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04:21.56berndhslooks nice too with QML apps
04:22.48berndhsthen i changed a font, and QML apps crash, cant log in gnome3 any more
04:23.55gabrbeddI've been a KDE fan for a long time... but I installed Ubuntu on the family PC recently -- and GNOME is seducing me.
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04:25.05berndhsoh it can be really nice
04:25.33berndhsits just beta stuff, perhaps a bit rushed at that
04:26.46gabrbeddYeah, I've heard some good things about GNOME3.
04:28.03berndhsah i fixed my login problem, went from beta to beta-testing :)
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04:35.35gabrbeddg'night guys!
04:35.42gabrbedd(and gals!)
04:35.47berndhsgood night
04:35.52dm8tbrmood groaning
04:36.04gabrbedd:-)
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06:26.40priyankahi i want to know if mssf2 as proposed in meego 2010 conferenace  will be a part of meego 1.2
06:27.42Stskeepsit's not, it was in the architecture change emails
06:28.09Jadehi
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06:29.20tmpsantosMyrtti: morning
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06:31.00priyanka@stskeeps is there any docs avialble about securityin meego 1.2 , I am working on dbus security and wanna know whats provided by meego. I checked out the mssf examples on the git but the libraries aren't fully integrated in even the latest builds aviable
06:31.31Stskeepspriyanka: meego-security-discussion@ mailing list
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06:51.59bkalingaQServiceManager is not there in my "meego-handset-ia32-madde-sysroot"
06:52.16bkalingathen how work with service framework
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07:25.51andre__how long am I expected to wait for seeing my blogpost shown on planet meego? it's more than 24h now...
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08:38.16bilboedany update on when accepted speakers will get their registration code ?
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08:50.18edheldilHi all, anybody knows if  there's SimToolkit in meego for n900?
08:50.43Stskeepsthere isn't
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08:54.07edheldilStskeeps:  is there any additional info on that?
08:55.46Stskeepsedheldil: 'ofono' is probably best plcace to look
08:56.30edheldilI am considering creating one on Maemo, and any info would be helpful
08:56.33edheldilthanks
08:57.12newjorhave someone compiled meego-kernel? and if compiled successful, how the new one be placed  on meego?
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09:30.47alteregoDoes anyone know if all sponsorship requests have been processed? Or are there still some waiting to be approved?
09:31.11Myrttiwell mine was processed already
09:31.24alteregoMine too, but I have a friend who hasn't had a mail yet.
09:31.32lcukalterego, it might be a bit early for US people to be able to answer, but ping DawnFoster who would know or be able to ask I gather
09:31.40Myrttileinir: ♥
09:31.42alteregoI guess they'll send one if you're sponsorship has been denied as well?
09:32.01lcuk\o Venemo morning
09:32.13Venemogood morning to you too lcuk :)
09:32.23alteregoHey Venemo, and hey lcuk
09:32.32Venemohello alterego :)
09:32.34alteregolcuk: but yeah, my sponsorship has been approved :)
09:32.44alteregodoes the alcatraz dance
09:32.56lcukVenemo, you need to look here for details about getting puzzle-master onto the OBS http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Community_Builder
09:33.06Venemolcuk, thanks
09:33.16MyrttiI wonder if there's any side programme planned
09:33.19alteregolcuk: you're not attending though right?
09:33.39Myrttiwould love to see the computer history museum properly, it was half closed last year because of renovations
09:33.42lcukwho said I wasn't attending? I have only indicated that Mrs lcuk will shout at me ;)
09:33.49alteregoHah
09:34.09lcukwas filling in the form last night
09:34.14alterego:)
09:34.21alteregoCool, would be great to meet you in person :)
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09:34.33lcukhow was the cambridge meetup?
09:34.40lcuk(I half saw one was meant to happen
09:34.49leinirMyrtti: :D
09:34.59lcukhey leinir \o
09:35.17leinirlcuk: yo! :)
09:35.28MyrttiI can't wait for the fish restaurants :-D
09:35.32Myrtti*drool*
09:35.59alteregolcuk: just me and vgrade, but was enjoyable enough
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09:36.18alteregoTwo of my friends backed out, one fell ill so :/
09:36.46lcukspeaking of which I have pub tonight with pals
09:36.54alteregoAnd I didn't get an email back from sjoerd so I guess Collabora guys didn't get the message :S
09:37.03lcukshall drink Guinness and talk tech all evening
09:37.14lcukand compare beards!
09:37.41alteregoMy beard is somewhat non-existent right now ;)
09:37.46alteregoWe can compare others' beards though
09:38.13lcukheh my mate is getting married and his stag do is coming up, one of the conditions is facial hair
09:38.27alteregoOh nice :)
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09:38.39lcukthe other is a hawaiian shirt too which is more tricky
09:39.06lcukdoes not think they come in pure black
09:39.16alteregoAh, the old Robinson Crusoe / Castaway look
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09:39.45lcukalterego, hah
09:40.40alteregoWhat's the weather like for you? Yesterday and today have been really nice :)
09:41.10lcukit is good over here, nice and warm, had all the doors and windows open
09:41.10alteregoAnd, I'm not suffering any hayfever this year, despite being surrounded by oilseed
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09:41.52lcuktracy got hayfever driving across the country last week
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09:43.44lcukalterego, which N900 DE image are you running at the moment?
09:44.36alteregoThe alpha from the FI summit still
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09:47.44lcukalterego, and how are you finding it installing and working on it?
09:48.02lcukis it happy to connect to qt-creator and run your apps?
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09:48.21alteregoI've not used it with the meego sdf
09:48.23alterego~sdk
09:48.24infobotThe Palm SDK is now public, and can be downloaded from http://developer.palm.com
09:48.30alteregoHeh
09:49.05alteregoI've been testing my dialer on it using obs local building, scp and ssh :)
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10:32.43bkalingahttp://pastebin.com/BHxHFmqf
10:33.12bkalingagetting error while compiling libmeegotouch/examples/servicefw
10:33.27lbt~sdk
10:33.27infobotThe Palm SDK is now public, and can be downloaded from http://developer.palm.com
10:33.40lbtmmm
10:34.32timoph~lbt
10:34.45bkalingaanyone successfully builtl ibmeegotouch/examples/servicefw
10:35.10lbtbkalinga: what platform are you on?
10:35.18bkalingaqemu
10:35.25lbtdoesn't look like an osc build
10:35.55bkalingai am sorry lbt: i did not get you
10:36.15lbtoh, I see what you're doing
10:36.29lbtbuilding some example code that comes with libmeegotouch
10:36.51lbtin a qemu install
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10:37.22lbtMaybe file a bug against libmeegotouch component
10:37.31bkalingayes you are right
10:37.37bkalingai am trying to do that
10:38.06bkalingathis is fine to build it inside qemu or not?
10:38.22lbtit should work
10:38.32lbtit may need libs you don't have installed
10:39.28bkalingaOSC  build; is it something developer needs to do?
10:41.23lbtosc build is used to build packages for meego on non-meego platforms
10:41.32lbtit's aimed at platform development
10:41.43lbtbut works for anything
10:41.57lbtit's part of OBS
10:42.30lcukit can also be used to build meego apps on meego platforms too?
10:42.44lcukie, using a meego netbook to build meego n900 DE apps?
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10:44.22lbtyes
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10:48.38bkalingalbt: do you recommend,  an application developer should use OBS/OSC for application development purpose
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10:55.08lbtbkalinga: that's a hard one - I think the meego SDK is probably the tool of choice for day to day hacking
10:55.18lbtwhen the app is UI oriented
10:55.42mikhasahem, isn't the idea of Qt that you could just hack anywhere?
10:55.43lbtfor traditional vim/emacs hackers then OBS is probably a better bet - but it's not yet easy to setup
10:55.47mikhaswhat's the benefit of the SDK?
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10:56.09lbtI would like to see more ability to flick between them
10:56.10lcukmobile device emulation stuff
10:56.30alteregomadde
10:56.37lcukconfiguration to talk with MADDE and all that to actually see app on ARM device from x86 desktop etc
10:56.57lbtI want to use madde with emacs and OBS
10:57.15lbtI'd like to see a 'send to OBS' button in madde
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10:57.37alteregoThat would be cool, I'm guessing you mean command though ;)
10:57.47lbtfabo may oblige...
10:57.53Ans5ilbt: you can login madde terminal
10:57.56alteregoqt creator should have push to obs though
10:57.57lbtnah, a pink button alterego
10:58.09lbtwith the c,obs meegon on it :)
10:58.18alterego:)
10:58.28lbtmay mean qt-creator
10:58.38lbtthe problem with guis is that the boundaries aren't clear
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10:59.04alteregoYou can do a local obs build through qt creator
10:59.15lbtneat
10:59.22alteregoIf you set up a custom build process etc.
10:59.28lbtah
10:59.35Ans5ithere is more customization available for buildchain now than before, don't know could it be integrated.
10:59.38alteregoProblem with qt creator is header locations though
10:59.50lbtmumbles 'scratchbox'
11:00.02lbt?
11:00.05alteregoI have scratchbox integrated into qt creator also ;)
11:00.10Ans5ime too
11:00.10lbtalterego: eww
11:00.39Ans5idoesn't much warm at night still
11:00.44alteregobut again header locations are a pain, because it uses you host environments include directories, not scratchboxs' or obs'
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11:01.06lbtyep - this is why it should integrate better
11:01.18alteregoSo code completion and various squiggly underlines are all wacky
11:01.19Ans5isb2 would be easier imho
11:01.23lbtyour app doesn't get published until post-OBS build
11:01.28lbtAns5i: please leave now
11:01.33alteregoHah
11:01.39Ans5iheh
11:01.48alteregoscratchbox qt creator integration is fine
11:02.05alteregoF5 even starts my apps in zephyr window :)
11:03.01bkalingaalterego:  could  you please point me, how to do scratch box set up for meego
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11:04.00bkalingais it possible to have both qemu andscratchbox set up on same host machine without any conflict?
11:04.02Bostikoi guys, I remember someone (lbt?) talking about an odd bug in X which caused all draws to end up in stretched 45 degree angle; was there a bug report and fix I could look up?
11:04.43alteregobkalinga: I don't have scratchbox for meego, I was refering to maemo
11:05.06bkalingaso for meego, qemu is a good option then
11:05.17alteregoWell, I use on device.
11:05.21lbtBostik: wasn't me I'm afraid
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11:05.27bkalingaonly problem is qtcreator is not integrated well
11:05.29alteregoBut yeah, qemu seems the current way
11:05.44alteregobkalinga: well, it's configured to use madde and deploy to your qemu instance.
11:05.57lbtbkalinga: no
11:06.11lbtyou can have them both setup
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11:06.42lbthttp://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/Application_Building#Co-existing_with_Scratchbox
11:07.25bkalingaok...
11:07.33bkalingathe shared link is wrt maemo
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11:07.43bkalingawill it work for meego
11:07.58lbtit's a linux kernel thing...
11:09.38bkalingaok
11:10.19bkalingait would be great it qtcreator intregrated well with Madde+qemu
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11:26.21fabolbt: there's a build service plugin in Qt Creator
11:26.28fabonot in madde ;)
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11:49.19lcukI managed to repair my n900 the other night :)
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11:49.29lcukafter the usb power lead was getting a bit ropey
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11:49.36lcukand needed wire in same place always
11:49.57lcukI dismantled it and inserted a fold of card ontop of the power connector
11:50.21lcukwedging it between there and the MMC card slot which is physically overlapping the circuit board
11:50.33lcuknow my n900 can happily charge up :)
11:50.55lcukmaybe not a fulltime solution, but certainly adds confidence.
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11:51.47lcukthis would only potentially work if the connection is loose rather than fully disconnected
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11:58.15lcukMeeGoExperts, how was #meegofi ?
12:02.07MeeGoExpertsFANTASTIC
12:02.23MeeGoExpertsAs usual these MeeGo conferences do not disappoint
12:02.59lcuk:D I hear everyone was happy about the N900 DE as well as the other stuff
12:03.07lcukwhat was your favourite session?
12:03.17MeeGoExpertsyep. There were loads of developers fired up and ready to go :-)
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12:04.53MeeGoExpertspossibly "Optimizing MeeGo Apps with Intel MeeGo development tools"
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12:05.14lcukMeeGoExperts, yeah, what made that more interesting than the others?
12:05.38Stskeepsthat after the session people were getting loaner exopc's
12:05.38Stskeeps:P
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12:06.30alteregoHeh
12:07.01Venemo_N900heh?
12:10.26Jaffastarts re-reading http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2011/meego-meeting.2011-03-18-14.58.log.html#l-111 after MeeGoExperts' latest wrap up.
12:10.46Jaffa"we should discuss in the next TSG meeting". Of course, the "next TSG meeting" cam and went and was just more rubber stamping of working groups.
12:11.13alteregoJaffa: What day are you flying to SF?
12:11.31Jaffaalterego: Flying out Saturday. Virgin Atlantic from Heathrow @ 13:00. Back on Thursday.
12:11.38JaffaSo'll have to stump up for an extra night
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12:11.47alteregoI was thinking of doing the same
12:11.59alteregoThough I was gonna fly out Friday :D
12:12.10alteregoAnd come back thursday
12:12.13Jaffa's already taking a week off work...
12:12.49w00t_is going saturday -> saturday
12:12.57w00t_spending some extra time wandering around
12:12.59Jaffaw00t_: Nice
12:13.00alteregoI'd love to go sat-sat
12:13.04alteregoWould like to see some sights.
12:13.11w00t_(actually having a holiday!)
12:13.11Jaffa's been to SF a few times (for JavaOne). It's a great place.
12:13.16alteregoWhat time do the warm ups start on saturday?
12:13.25Venemo_N900meh, I hope the next conference will be in Europe
12:13.27JaffaI'm looking forward to having some geeky drinks at the top of the Hil(d)on Skybar
12:13.34Jaffaalterego: First thing, I think :-(
12:13.45alteregoBecause I was planning on volunteering
12:14.12w00t_I think I arrive around 11am saturday
12:14.14alteregoIs your flight back the one that leaves at 19:05 SF time?
12:14.24Jaffaalterego: Sounds about right
12:14.40JaffaWe should start the wiki page for flights
12:14.43alteregoWell, guess we've got a fair amount of time on thursday
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12:15.40JaffaBloody hell, that wiki.meego.com bug about being half-logged in is still there :-(
12:15.50alteregoYeah, it's a pain in the ass
12:16.03tmpsantosanyone using tablet sdk + madde?
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12:18.34lcukrandom linux question
12:18.35alteregoOh the options ...
12:18.50lcukwhy does "ps" only list a couple of processes
12:18.53lcukbut "top" lists all
12:19.04poutsips only lists ones with a controlling terminal i think
12:19.08poutsithat belong to the current user
12:19.22poutsias for the real why, who knows :)
12:20.36Jaffahttp://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2011/Flight_Information
12:21.00Venemo_N900lcuk: use 'ps aux'
12:21.29poutsior for extra info overload, "ps auxfwwwww"
12:21.40poutsia lesser number of w's might do it :)
12:22.38alteregoJaffa: when do you think we'll know if LXF can prepay for flights? I don't have the capital to book it myself :/
12:24.04X-Fadealterego: No, you have to pay for it yourself first.
12:24.31alteregoSo the foundation was asked then?
12:24.34JaffaX-Fade: bdub has gone away to ask if there's a possibiltiy for a limited number of exceptions
12:24.38alteregoAnd that's what they said?
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12:24.57X-FadeAh, don't know about the exceptions. I was refering to the normal procedure.
12:25.11alteregoYeah, I was enquiring about the exceptions :D
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12:25.33JaffaI've moved the flight information page to http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_Spring_2011/Flight_Information
12:25.55lcukVenemo_N900, thanks!
12:26.16Venemo_N900lcuk: you're welcome :)
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12:31.32rzrhi
12:31.45lcuk\o
12:31.52rzris looking for meego devices owners to test a game
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12:42.13Venemo_N900rzr: you could try a chroot
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12:46.02phaeronlbt: so robog is running old style. or did you updated to skynet ?
12:46.09lbtphaeron: I saw the commit notification process
12:46.15lbtskynet
12:46.37phaeronlbt: did you push the code ?
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12:48.08lbterr,,,, yes, of course
12:48.20phaeronright *g*
12:48.27lbtskynet branch
12:48.31lbtnot pkged
12:49.30phaeronso I need to do more pkging
12:49.43lbtno.. reuse what you just did
12:49.55lbtthat was the point - generic part pkging
12:50.05phaeronlbt: what about my question "boss-obs-plugin needs to stuff the api url into the obsEvent"
12:50.06lbtanyhow you wrote the code -you get to pkg it
12:50.12lbtyeah... mmm
12:50.15lbtdoes it
12:50.22lbt*every* event
12:50.40lbtwhat should be in there?
12:51.09phaeronwell it's just a field in the json that says this even comes from this OBS. right now each participant has the apiurl in the conf
12:51.15phaeronwhich is wrong imho
12:51.24phaeron*event
12:51.29lbttrue
12:51.39lbtalso the project is in there
12:51.45lbtand isn't qualified
12:51.58lbtit's feasible to handle multiple OBSes in one process
12:52.14lbtprocess store
12:52.32phaeronwell add one more layer to the hierarchy
12:52.55phaeronmapping hierarchy
12:53.22lbtlets get this process running
12:53.42phaeronalthough it's getting a bit redundant. if I want to enable a process for all Devel projects in all obses handled I need to make 100 copies (or links) of it
12:54.29phaeronls
12:54.34phaeron*yes
12:55.12lbtnot sure what you mean about the 100 copies ,,,, tell me some other time though
12:56.11lbtright now I'm doing a mk_process
12:56.22lbtwhich installs a process for a prj/event pair
12:56.39lbtI think that lives in robog
12:56.59phaeronit should be in the -processes package
12:57.04phaeronmaybe
12:57.28lbtwell, it populates the robog store
12:57.38lbtso it's only relevant to robog
12:57.53phaeronhmm then it should be called enable_process
12:58.08phaerongot the impression it helps _make_ a new process
12:58.36lbtinstall ?
12:58.54lbtmm enable is good
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13:00.19rzrVenemo_N900: i already tested it on the livecd it works, but i wanted to have feedback on real "meego" devices
13:00.31Venemo_N900mhm
13:00.53phaeronlbt: why don't we have the manual -Release thing
13:01.19lbtin the version policy ?
13:01.24phaeronyes
13:01.40lbtthat's for packaging changes
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13:02.30phaeronbrb coffee
13:02.34lbtmmm
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13:11.16rzrwhere can i find ExoPC users ?
13:11.29thiagohere
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13:14.18alteregoThere's a forum somewhere too
13:14.27alteregoMight be on the manufacturers website
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13:14.44rzri am on it
13:14.49alterego:)
13:15.12rzrsame question applies to wetab :)
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13:44.20lbtphaeron: cool
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14:11.59lbtrzr: http://wiki.meego.com/Devices/ExoPC
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14:12.42rzryes i was on that page
14:13.02rzrdid they give it w/ win7 on it ?
14:13.49alteregorzr: all the meego exos that are being handed out come with MeeGo Tablet UX
14:14.59Myrttimind you, mine had the licence sticker on it
14:15.03Myrttibut who cares
14:17.29lbtphaeron: you have non idempotent postinst
14:17.36rzryou can sell it and buy an other one
14:17.44phaeronlbt: yeah I can see that
14:18.33lbtshould be a simple [[ ! -d $DIR ]] && mkdir -p $DIR
14:18.54Myrttiselling it is a breach of contract
14:19.05phaeronno, it should create it only on install not on upgrade
14:19.13phaeronupgrade condition would be different
14:19.29rzr"${DIR}"
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14:29.28phaeronlbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/95
14:29.45alteregoOh, it's a bank holiday tomorrow isn't it ..
14:30.51pexithank god
14:31.22berndhspexi: yes it is a religious holiday :)
14:31.54alteregoWell, apparently I have to confirm my sponsorship by Monday, but I can't really confirm it until I know whether the foundation can pay for me upfront :S
14:32.07ScriptRipperlbt ping on BOSS
14:32.07alteregoMonday being a bank holiday also ..
14:32.34leiniralterego: well, send it off and say "oh yes plz!" and tell them about that issue with payment in the email?
14:32.51alteregoYeah, that's what I was thinking.
14:33.28phaeronScriptRipper: pong
14:33.43lbtphaeron: give me a minute to accept it
14:33.50lbtwant to watch the events
14:33.59lbtScriptRipper: pong here too
14:34.00phaeronok
14:34.12ScriptRippergood
14:34.38ScriptRipperi had just been asking David how its going with BOSS development
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14:35.21ScriptRipperIIRC I was told BOSS 1.0 should be released with MeeGo 1.2
14:35.31ScriptRipperbut, btw, when is MeeGo 1.2 released ?
14:35.45lcukjust watching the meego fi track by Jukka :) loving the analogue recording and shaky camera work
14:36.19ScriptRipperI had expected some MeeGo 1.2 branch in OBS days ago, but could not find it
14:36.38Stskeepseverything got postponed, was on meego-releases@
14:36.45gabrbeddScriptRipper: IIRC 1.2 will be released mid-to-late May.  There was an announce on either the meego-dev or meego-reelease ML.
14:37.02ScriptRipperah, so I slept at that time :D
14:37.24ScriptRipperand overread it
14:38.48ScriptRipper4/29 - Trunk reopen for development.  1.2 Branch will be created, 1.2
14:38.56ScriptRipperthat was what I was seeking for
14:39.21ScriptRipperon Fri in one week
14:40.17lbtScriptRipper: We don't currently have a date to release a 1.0 version of BOSS
14:41.19phaeronScriptRipper: who expected 1.0 ?
14:41.34ScriptRipperI was told
14:41.56ScriptRipperso I had expectations after
14:42.08ScriptRipperso to say :D
14:42.11phaeronwell working harder nowadays :)
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14:43.42Lana_Hello! Could somebody help me? Building rpm package from qt application for Meego the problem "command qmake not found" appears. Attempts to add libqt4-dev (or qt-qmake-4.7.0-3.1) into BuildReqires failed: unresolvable: nothing provides libqt4-dev.  Thanks in Advance
14:43.56lbtScriptRipper: we are working on the roadmap at the moment
14:44.03lbtso feedback to that would be good
14:44.16ScriptRipperwhere is the roadmap ?
14:44.26lbton my desk
14:44.38thiagoLana_: in MeeGo, development packages end in "-devel", not "-dev"
14:44.50lbtStskeeps: I can pastebin it
14:44.57lbtand it will go onto the wiki RSN
14:45.08Stskeepshum?
14:45.11ScriptRipperwiki would be nice
14:45.12phaeronlol
14:45.39lbtthiago: cite?
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14:57.06lbtphaeron: can robogrator take some debug flags
14:57.26phaeronlbt: to do what
14:57.30lbtbitwise ... 1 = print incoming
14:57.42lbt2 = which process is used
14:57.47lbt4 = print process
14:57.51lbtshould be enouh
14:58.13lbtand if it's non-zero then re-read config for each event?
14:58.34lbtsomething like that?
14:58.38phaeronmm , sure you need this now ?
14:59.05lbtwell, I can hack the insted code
14:59.11lbtto remove the extra prints
14:59.15lbtso it's not urgent
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14:59.23lbtbut it should be on the todo
14:59.38lbtnb... that's an idea, not a spec
14:59.50phaeroncurrently is too talkative
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15:00.07lbtand the input json has a bdep dump (!)
15:00.48phaeronbinary deps ?
15:03.57lcukhey cool, the rotation layout on the peregrine screen is neat
15:06.16lbtphaeron: yes
15:07.29lbt2011-04-21 15:06:57.783364500 home:sikemppa is done building .. now to test
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15:09.26kahlesshi all, wheres the diffenrence between the n900 builds "*armv7hl-n900" and "*armv7l-n900", which one should i use?
15:10.02Stskeepsarmv7hl, armv7l will be disabled end of this month
15:10.05Stskeepsarmv7hl is hardfp port
15:10.20lbtjust that bdeps is very noisy and appears in some OBS events
15:10.30phaeronok
15:10.45kahlessStskeeps: thx!
15:10.50thiagodoesn't the N900 hardware have FP problems?
15:11.05Stskeepsthiago: no, that's thumb you're thinking of
15:11.15thiagoah, right
15:11.27thiagomakes more sense
15:12.50alteregoStskeeps: the thumb problems are OMAP3 not specific to N900 right?
15:12.57Stskeepsright
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15:14.33lbtphaeron: I notice the 'demo' participants are called check and notify..... maybe not the best choice... although it should now allow a de-register/remove
15:14.54phaeronyes
15:15.18phaeronunsuspecting users of notify could get problems
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15:17.19phaeronlbt: do you remember if Launcher keeps an amqp connection open or is one shot
15:17.29lbtone shot
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15:27.07MyrttiI feel like such a pain in the ass harassing the lf guy about the hotel room :-/
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15:49.32lcukdoes anybody know why the photo viewer on meego cannot see the photos used in its theme
15:50.20lcukie, using todays N900 DE image, the theme picture is great
15:50.31lcukbut opening the photo viewer it shows no images
15:50.46MyrttiI'd still like to know what the Friends-panel is supposed to do in the Tablet UX
15:52.05tripz0Myrtti, you mean in the meego ux?
15:52.11phaeronlbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/96
15:52.12tripz0lcuk, same question?
15:52.15RST38hShow updates/status from your friends?
15:52.24tripz0RST38h, ding, you win!
15:52.43tripz0twitter, facebook, chat accounts, email, etc... updates
15:53.05RST38hputs on his Cpt Obvious tricorne
15:53.25Myrttitripz0: the vanilla one - anyway I don't see anything
15:53.41tripz0Myrtti, go to settings->web accounts and add facebook
15:53.50tripz0or setup an chat or email account
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15:54.26Myrttitripz0: I did setup facebook, I get "Success" and then - nothing
15:54.52tripz0hmm
15:55.11tripz0on the back of the friends panel, does facebook show up as a toggle?
15:55.56tripz0and what image are you using?
15:55.56Myrttinope
15:56.16tripz0facebook probably wasn't really "successful" then :|
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15:56.27Myrttithis was with tablet 0415.3, now the same with tablet 0420
15:56.55tripz0tries it out
15:57.12RST38hMaybe it is worth looking for current bugs filed forthis panel?
15:57.18Myrttiand even with gtalk setup successfully and the toggle on the back of the panel, nothing still shows
15:57.36Myrttijust "you have no web accounts enabled yadayada"
15:57.38RST38hJust in case there is one stating that "The panel is broken and does not do shit"
15:58.05tripz0yeh, see if there is  a bug
15:58.13tripz0iirc, it was working last time i tried it
15:58.26lcuktripz0, to test this out would require I get a facebook
15:58.40tripz0lcuk, if you do, i'll be your friend ;)
15:58.49RST38hheya lcuk, don't get facebook, stay one of us, the proud old farts
16:00.00lcuklol RST38h I tweeted about being old recently :P http://twitter.com/lcuk/status/59182570713255936
16:00.07lbtRST38h: too late ... he tweets too
16:00.12lbtsee
16:00.22rzridenti.ca freedom haters !!!
16:00.37rzr7:)
16:00.39RST38hOMG, he tweets like a parakeet...
16:00.44Myrttiidenti.ca is the lowest pit of FLOSS zealotry hell
16:00.50lbtphaeron: mmm I didn't see a REQUEST_CREATE
16:01.18lcukRST38h, I was talking to a Cockatoo at the wildlife gardens on holiday :)
16:01.38lcukwe had a great chat :)
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16:02.14lcuklovely bird, I shall see if tracy has uploaded a photo
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16:02.48phaeronlbt: did you apply that patch ?
16:03.10RST38hlcuk: yes, much more pleasant creature than most people... Got one asa pet.
16:03.20lbtwhich patch?
16:03.54lcukRST38h, :) he kept climbing down his cage and bringing up sticks for me we had a lovely time
16:04.06lbtphaeron: you mean the sr you just submitted?
16:04.49lcuks/cage/aviary/
16:04.56RST38hlcuk: I think he was trying to build you a nestso that you can lay eggs...
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16:06.29phaeronlbt: no the multiactions patch
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16:15.59phaeronlbt: so what's next
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16:30.30lbtphaeron: where does OBS_SRCSRV_REQUEST_CREATE come from
16:32.05lbtmmm it is the srcserver
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16:46.11jausmusMyrtti: you were having some problems w/ the friends panel?
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16:50.08Myrttijausmus: yup
16:53.09Stskeepsponders idly on ibrahimatlinux's tweet
16:53.28Stskeeps"Welcome #panasonic and #huawei to #Meego handset"
16:54.12TSCHAKeeewhaaa?
16:54.32jausmusMyrtti: what's the issue? :)
16:54.40Stskeepsi would love a MeeGo DECT handset, though.
16:54.41Stskeeps:P
16:54.52RST38hSTskeeps: should use Chinese and Japanesefor the greeting though
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16:55.29berndhsyeah, Latin character support is not enough
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16:56.02Myrttijausmus: facebook login yields no results, google talk setup doesn't display in the panel
16:56.34lbtStskeeps: supybot setup ?
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16:56.56jausmusMyrtti: for FB, make sure your TZ and date/time is set up correctly - most social networking web APIs seem to be very sensitive to timestamp issues on API requests
16:57.31Stskeepslbt, yes, do you have a web server on there too or some way to proxy paths?
16:57.38Stskeepslbt, meeting logs need to be exported somehow
16:57.59jausmusMyrtti: for google talk - you're saying the account doesn't even show up on the back of the panel?
16:58.09lbtwe can install a webserver and access via the main proxy
16:58.13Stskeepsok
16:58.26Stskeepsdoesn't even have to be advanced, just serve files from a dir
16:58.32lbt*nod*
16:58.34lbtStskeeps: also... can I use supybot to issue irc alert/info/event messages?
16:59.08Stskeepslbt: maybe there is a plugin? it would require a open port of sorts
16:59.30lbt*nod* have it listen on an internal port and basically relay alerts
16:59.47lbtwondered if you knew
17:00.22lbthttps://github.com/tbielawa/supybot-mailed-notifier
17:00.29jausmusMyrtti: also, what versions of meego-ux-panels-friends, meego-ux-content, meego-ux-content-socialweb, and meego-app-im are you working with?
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17:02.32Myrttijausmus: does show in the back of the panel, but not beyond that
17:03.45jausmusMyrtti: so, after it shows up in the back of the panel, you have the IM account in a logged in state, you are on the panels screen, someone sends you an IM, and it doesn't show up - correct?
17:04.11Myrttioh damn, I can't set the time...
17:04.12Myrttiho hum
17:04.38jausmustripz0: ^^^^
17:04.49tripz0yeh, i have a bug for that
17:05.00jausmusMyrtti: xterm? :)
17:05.03tripz0Myrtti, use date -s on the commandline
17:05.16tripz0i'm trying to debug what broke
17:05.23Myrttimyyh, I'd have to...
17:05.25Myrttino hold on
17:05.39Myrttiyeah, I don't even have access to ssh
17:06.23jausmusMyrtti: what device are you on?
17:06.31Myrttiexopc
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17:06.49jausmushave a USB KB handy?
17:06.49tripz0plug in a keyboard and do a ctrl+alt+f1
17:06.51Myrtticonsiders ripping the keyboard off her sisters computer...
17:06.58tripz0haha, do it!
17:07.13Myrttihas an eye twitch while considering
17:07.49jausmusMyrtti: sorry for all the hassle :(
17:09.02Myrttishoots a video of the computers back to see what kind of plug the keyboard has
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17:11.34Myrttimeh
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17:13.12Myrttiyeah, can't do it, I can't go blindly rip all the usb cables off
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17:16.32tripz0hmmm... setting the time is working for me now...
17:16.44tripz0guesses some b0rkage in trunk with timed
17:16.52tripz0...that is fixed now
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17:19.18alteregoHave all the sponsorship acceptance mails been sent?
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17:20.26tripz0Myrtti, setting the time in settings should work in the next image that is produced.  it's working for me now after updating trunk
17:21.30tripz0in other news, the d-feet package doesn't pull in all the right deps
17:21.31tripz0files bug
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17:30.15aukeworks some more on systemd
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17:31.42Stskeepsremember to document it this time, fastinit wasn't horribly ;p
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17:34.32StskeepsDawnFoster1: so, if you had meetbot logs on a public url, what domain.meego.com would that be?
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17:36.18DawnFoster1Stskeeps: ah, good question. we should also probably move the logs from this channel, too (general IRC logs)
17:36.29DawnFoster1Stskeeps: so maybe irc.meego.com?
17:36.45DawnFoster1we'll need to talk to Mike / Adam about it to finalize anything
17:36.49Stskeeps:nod:
17:36.57Stskeepsam setting up the irc bots atm on there
17:36.59DawnFoster1or maybe something more specific like irclogs.meego.com
17:37.17aukeStskeeps: all the hardcoded ordering is gone, systemd is more of a 'drop config in place' type thing
17:37.19DawnFoster1that might be a little better
17:37.23Stskeepsyeah
17:37.30Stskeepsi guess we'll go with working title as that for now
17:37.43DawnFoster1Stskeeps: sounds good
17:37.48DawnFoster1thanks for helping with this!!
17:38.00Stskeepsno problem
17:38.30aukeDawnFoster1: can we vacate #moblin? I'd like to kick everyone out but do not have ops..
17:39.03DawnFoster1auke: probably a good idea - I don't have ops for that one either
17:39.36aukeok, I'll lookup who does
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17:49.19Stskeepsin other news, we had 461 IRC meetings since project start
17:50.59slonopotamusas Linus said, talk is cheap :) how many KLoCs per each meeting?
17:51.26Stskeepsthat's difficult to measure
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17:52.41slonopotamusi really like this: http://programming-motherfucker.com/
17:52.44alteregoThat's what she said
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17:59.16aukeStskeeps: Xorg will run on vc/1
17:59.20Stskeepsok
17:59.37Stskeepswhat, xorg? i thougt we were going to go straight for wayland ;p
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17:59.46aukebitchslaps Stskeeps
18:00.49StskeepsDawnFoster1: second meeting room set up
18:01.09StskeepsDawnFoster1: feel free to make http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Meeting_IRC_Schedule look nicer than i did :)
18:02.17alteregoWayland for MeeGo 1.3 :)
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18:03.56berndhsforget testing for Wayland, jsut ship it
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18:32.38lcukI was running dd today to load the DE image on my device
18:32.42lcukwhen it finished, it told me:
18:32.43lcukdd copied 3816816641 bytes (3.8 GB) copied, 5339.45 s, 715 kB/s
18:33.05lcukthat was from my laptop, over usb, into n900 and onto the eMMC shared from there
18:33.19lcukwhat data speed do others get when copying images?
18:33.55alteregoMine is usually about 10MB/s
18:34.10alteregofluctuates from 8 up to 12 sometimes though
18:34.20lcukany idea which components I would need to peek at to try and find reason?
18:34.37gabrbeddlcuk: Hrm... that's like sub-USB-1.0 speed.
18:34.49alteregoI guess check you're using ehci and not ohci
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18:35.03lcukgabrbedd, that has been usb speed since year .
18:35.16lcukok alterego, how would I check that?
18:35.19alteregoIs you laptop usb 1? :)
18:35.31alteregolsmod | grep hci
18:35.57lcukahci is tere
18:36.14lcuks/tere/there/
18:36.26alteregoNot sure what ahci is, but it's probably > usb 1.0
18:36.41alteregoDoes dmesg say anything about it?
18:36.51alteregoLike failed read/writes?
18:37.15alteregoMy laptop controller seems to get flakey on large copies when I'm using other USB devices.
18:37.35alteregoWell, some other usb devices, my mouse works fine
18:37.52lcukusb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 15
18:37.53gabrbeddlcuk: what does `lsusb` and `lsusb -t` give you?
18:38.01lcuka mo, I will pastebin
18:38.16alteregoWell, seems to think the device is using ehci ..
18:38.21alteregoWhich is positive
18:38.24gabrbeddsometimes... it makes a difference which one you've plugged it in to
18:38.45gabrbeddE.g. a device can reserve bandwidth.
18:39.19gabrbeddI once had trouble using a USB audio card because the PC was internally sharing a hub with the webcam.  (And the webcam reserved too much bandwidth, even when not in use)
18:40.22alteregowtf is going on in meego-meeting?
18:41.28Stskeepslbt: i think your script didn't work
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18:42.20lbtI think someone configured it to run as a daemon ;)
18:42.25Stskeeps..
18:42.26Stskeeps:P
18:42.27lbtunder daemontools....
18:42.35Stskeepsdid you spot #meego-meeting?
18:42.35Stskeeps:P
18:42.42gabrbeddDefinately daemonic
18:42.47alteregoHah
18:42.53Stskeeps-d means fork into background, fiw
18:42.54Stskeepsfwiw
18:42.54Stskeeps:P
18:42.58lbtno... I saw ps
18:42.59gabrbeddFTW
18:43.02alteregoI was waiting for M666oBub
18:43.15Stskeepsok, so that part didn't work
18:43.15Stskeeps:P
18:44.21lbtOK - so it'll restart now
18:53.04Stskeepslbt: you're the one killing it?
18:53.19lbtyes
18:53.46Stskeepsok
18:54.37phl0x81what was the OpenGL support in MeeGo again? OpenGL ES 2.0?
18:54.49StskeepsES2.0
18:55.01Stskeepswell, for qt
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18:57.04lbtmumble ... too painful
18:57.28lbtdaemontools is kinda neat ... and kinda cryptic
18:57.44lbtkeeping errors visible long after they've been cleared
18:58.18lbtDNS and nginx is setup.. now need to point the web1 at it
18:58.31lbtsomeone let me know if meego.com goes down
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19:21.10saidinesh5pohly: ping
19:21.19pohlysaidinesh5: pong
19:21.42saidinesh5the current master doesn't build for me... basically it is throwing me errors at the WebDav backend
19:21.58saidinesh5it seems like there are no configure checks for that
19:22.52saidinesh5the first error comes at line 20 of
19:23.23saidinesh5backends/webdav/WebDAVSource.cpp
19:24.13saidinesh5with the line 20 above the #ifdef
19:26.19saidinesh5now i'm not sure one can simply move that line into the #ifdef ENABLE_DAV .....
19:27.52pohlyThen I screwed up the build without webdav.
19:29.08pohlyI see why. Will fix in a second.
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19:29.19saidinesh5hmm.... the thing is #ifdef ENABLE_DAV has been used in a different way in
19:29.28saidinesh5WebDAVSourceRegister
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19:30.17saidinesh5so i think it means a different thing
19:30.19saidinesh5sure :)
19:30.30pohlyYes, it is no longer consistent. WebDAVCredentialsOkay must be outside of ifdefs in all cases.
19:31.47pohlyNightly builds are still having issues due to the recent experiments with WebDAV/CalDAV/build platform. Otherwise I would have noticed in a build failure in one of the minimal configs. Oh well.
19:32.08saidinesh5ih
19:32.10saidinesh5oh
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19:40.02vgradealterego, good news then :)
19:40.31alteregoYes :)
19:40.40alteregois happy as larry
19:40.50alteregoWell, if I can raise about 1200 quid :D
19:41.15lbtnow we have multiple meego meeting rooms.... who thinks they should be named?  #meego-meeting-pink is so much better than #meego-meeting2
19:41.34CosmoHillwhy do we have so many rooms?
19:41.41lbtwe are legion
19:42.01lbt(conflicts)
19:42.07lbtanyhow... just a though
19:42.08lbtt
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19:42.31CosmoHillwill #meego-meeting-pink be about the UX and carried out in a slightly effeminate way
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19:42.53lbthas a pink shirt.... wanna make something of it? eh? eh?
19:43.17lbtmakes a note not to wash it with red socks again....
19:43.19CosmoHillactually yes
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19:43.27miherowashed the white shirt with red socks?
19:43.46lbthave you seen the price of pink shirts!
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19:44.08CosmoHillhave you seen the price of petrol? damn thing goes up 3p / litre every time I top up
19:44.12lbtwanders off to do some dance practice....
19:44.45Myrtti-meeting-salmon -meeting-mahimahi -meeting-vendance -meeting-halibut
19:44.53Myrttivendace even
19:46.14DawnFoster1well, you can all blame me for lack of creative naming schemes ;)
19:46.29CosmoHillsays the person with a 1 at the end of their name
19:46.39DawnFoster1ha!
19:46.50miheroname them after a songs, meeting-hurt, meeting-oops,i-did-it-again...
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19:47.18alteregoI might have to take out a bank loan to pay for the flights to San Fran :D
19:47.25compengiare there many here that run meego on n900?
19:47.30Stskeepscompengi: yes
19:47.31CosmoHillwill their be #meego-greenroom for pre-meeting drinks?
19:47.36alteregocompengi: more in #meego-arm
19:47.49compengiStskeeps, cool.. does it run smoothly?
19:48.21CosmoHillcould have #meego-talking for less formal meetings
19:48.36Stskeepscompengi: better than it used to
19:49.02CosmoHill#meego-nobodyexpectsthespanishinquisition-meeting
19:49.30alteregoBored now
19:49.39CosmoHillthat channel will also enforce correct grammar and spelling
19:50.44miherothen it would have to be #MeeGo-... channel
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19:51.12CosmoHill#meego+meeting
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19:57.00pixelgeekSo, at the risk of opening myself up to a world of hurt here...
19:57.20pixelgeekIs there anything you want to see demo'ed at the SF MeeGo Conference?
19:58.28Stskeepsis it interesting and you'll show up - no session already? submit it for the Late Breaking News call that should open up two weeks before conference :)
19:59.14pixelgeekI should back up.
19:59.55pixelgeekYes, I am showing up - I'm on the hook for demos in one of the booths in the lobby
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20:00.51pixelgeekRight now, I'm planning to bring the demo that Renee James showed in her keynote at IDF
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20:03.47pixelgeekWhat else are people interested in seeing?
20:04.33TSCHAKeeeSteve Jobs exploding on stage, leaving only his black turtleneck behind.
20:04.54pixelgeekHmmm..  might be tough to arrange...
20:04.59lolloohaha
20:05.00TSCHAKeeehehehe
20:06.20gabrbeddwould settle for an Eloplosion
20:06.51pixelgeekSo I'm sensing a theme of things exploding.
20:07.21pixelgeekI wonder if the Hyatt management will be OK with that.
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20:10.01gabrbeddpixelgeek: I didn't see RJ's keynote.  What did he demo?
20:10.23gabrbeddpixelgeek: I.e. what sort of demo's do you have in mind?
20:10.44pixelgeekShe showed a mother helping her child with his homework
20:11.25pixelgeekThe child started off doing his homework on a MeeGo TV 'set top box'
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20:11.49pixelgeekThen asked his mother for help.  She transfers the program to her tablet.
20:12.04pixelgeekShe helps him with  the maths problem
20:13.06pixelgeekThen for the next question, she tells him he has to ask his teacher, so she transers the program on to his classmate PC running MeeGo for him to take to school with him.
20:14.19gabrbeddpixelgeek: transfers what?
20:15.42gabrbeddBTW, I think I've seen videos where vgrade (or someone) doing that with movies -- transferring the playback between several devices.
20:16.09pixelgeekYes, we showed that in Dublin.  :)
20:16.36gabrbeddok... maybe it was you.  :-)
20:17.36pixelgeekWe can also show a game played between two player on their own devices, with the TV showing the board for other spectators.
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20:18.12saidinesh5also pohly , currently the bugreports (from the Dr.Konqi / the GUI) are set to goto  "syncevolution@syncevolution.org" , which one will manually email via. their KMail
20:18.40saidinesh5(in the KAboutData before initializing the KApplications)
20:18.48pixelgeek^^ transfers the whole program - it starts up on the other device at exactly the same point as it stopped on the first device.
20:19.17ali1234how does that work?
20:19.22saidinesh5so If we want, we can change that to the KDE's Bugzilla or some other address
20:20.40pohlysaidinesh5: what information will be sent to the list? Is it potentially confidential?
20:21.05pixelgeekali1234: magic!
20:21.14saidinesh5pohly: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271450 sample bug report
20:21.45pixelgeek;)
20:22.53saidinesh5basically a backtrace
20:23.08ali1234pixelgeek: specifically i would like to know in what way programs need to be modified to support this
20:23.08saidinesh5and a user provided information
20:24.33pixelgeekali1234: I understand.  I don't know if we publicized the technology behind it yet, but it's all based on existing standards.
20:24.40pohlyLet's keep the public email list then.
20:24.50ali1234that doesn't answer my question at all :)
20:25.08ali1234presumably the program has to be modified to serialize it's entire state to a file
20:25.11pixelgeek:)  Buy me a beer sometime
20:25.25ali1234then that has to be transfered over the network
20:25.39ali1234then there has to be a version of the program available on the other device
20:27.58ali1234anyway as far as demos go
20:28.10ali1234i would prefer to see a demo of something that is available now
20:28.27gabrbeddpixelgeek: You looking for existing tech... or something that you'd have to do a little dev?
20:28.29saidinesh5pohly: that is the current one itself right?
20:28.34ali1234not a rigged demo of something that may or may not be available at some point in the future
20:28.41pixelgeekSo, displays of shipping netbooks, IVI, tablet with MeeGo then?
20:29.01saidinesh5(syncevolution@syncevolution.org)
20:29.10ali1234yes, but make them do something that the others can't
20:29.26gabrbeddpixelgeek: Yeah, that'll pack'em in the aisles!
20:29.30gabrbedd:-)
20:29.32pixelgeekHmmm...  Such as?
20:29.44pohlysaidinesh5: yes
20:29.48ali1234i dunno, i don't think meego can do anything particularly unique at this point
20:29.51saidinesh5cool...
20:29.55pixelgeekYes
20:30.01ali1234anyway you don't want to listen to me, i'm not even going
20:30.08pixelgeekIt's a real challeng to differentiate on software.
20:30.50gabrbeddpixelgeek: How about this:  tether several MeeGo devices so that their displays are either a large, composited display or a multi-headed display.
20:31.03ali1234that has nothing to do with meego
20:31.04pixelgeekgabrbedd: existing tech, or something off the shelf that we can run on
20:31.38ali1234how about setting up a bunch of devices and then adding them all to each others contacts list so that people can message and video call each other
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20:32.03ali1234thus demonstrating that a large number of different devices with different UIs can successfully work together
20:32.22pixelgeekali1234: that could work.
20:33.06ali1234of course, prepare to run into a LOT of bugs
20:33.42ali1234you'll want to get at least one device of each UX as well
20:34.23ali1234throw up a upnp media server with some stuff on it too
20:35.03ali1234and you'll probably need your own wireless network to make this work, since conference = network doesn't work properly
20:35.10TSCHAKeeegabrbedd: actually, the video of transferring media was me
20:35.21TSCHAKeeegabrbedd: it was a linuxMCE demonstration.
20:35.49ali1234TSCHAKeee: someone demonstrated it on meego at dublin
20:36.05ali1234of course it was a rigged demo, you can't do it on the real meego
20:36.07gabrbeddTSCHAKeee: ok, thanks.
20:36.32TSCHAKeeeLinuxMCE actually exists and does this.
20:36.37ali1234yes i know
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20:51.34lbtphaeron: so, ircbot works... and that means we have a bot we can use for alerts
20:52.21lbtsince you don't like packaging... I was going to package supybot-mailed-notifier
20:54.11phaeronok
20:54.16lbtphaeron: you could help by figuring out why I get no srcserver events
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21:39.18phaeronlbt: how do you test
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