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07:11.12DocScrutinizer05sicelo: that sounds about right but honestly it's orphanware naow
07:11.16DocScrutinizer05now*
07:11.29DocScrutinizer05sorry, sixwheeledbeast ^^^
07:13.07DocScrutinizer05if there's anything still copyright-tagged "Nokia" on maemo servers then that's because nobody fixed that licence readme
07:14.24DocScrutinizer05community (HildonFaoundation, then MCeV) inherited the complete server with everything on it and Nokia asked us to remove "Nokia" tags everywhere
07:22.49DocScrutinizer05as (Ex)member of Council, HiFo and MCeV I dare to state that nobody will object any hosting of any of that stuff anywhere now
07:23.40DocScrutinizer05Nokia waived rights to all the stuff that is open source
07:23.53DocScrutinizer05and to the rest as well, as far as they could
07:26.59DocScrutinizer05there were a few ~closed bits that neither Nokia nor subcontractor Collabora owned the complete copyright and both didn't feel like investing the months of lawyers' hassle to change that, but both had no more interest in it telling "ask $opposite_party about it
07:31.25DocScrutinizer05parazyd: ^^^ you as well
07:33.47DocScrutinizer05~closed
07:33.47infobothmm... closed is http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages or https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages, or http://elinux.org/N900, or https://wiki.maemo.org/Free_Maemo
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09:49.23sixwheeledbeastso if it where hosted on git it should have Maemo copyright with same license?
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10:21.29DocScrutinizer05warfare: xes: there are three dead ganglia monitors
10:21.48DocScrutinizer05garage, wiki, www
10:38.32DocScrutinizer05the F...!  >>PHP Notice:  Uninitialized string offset: 0 in /usr/local/bin/packages/import-packages.php on line 135<< * bazillion,  var/log/fetch-extras.stderr.log 5519M
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10:39.25DocScrutinizer05to compensate that, syslog and messages is dead and empty
10:51.34DocScrutinizer05fetch-extras.stdout.log  2640M
10:52.26DocScrutinizer05I guess that thing needs a fix and then some realtime truncating of logs
10:57.05DocScrutinizer05OOM strke, I gonna reboot that critter
11:05.54enycmeows
11:06.26CatButtsbrain prolapses
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11:06.51enychrrms at the closed-packages-list
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15:27.22freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: did anyone fix that?
15:28.21DocScrutinizer05well, I fixed the ganglia part, was just a `service foobar restart`, but there's more to be done
15:29.59freemangordonI was rather asking about those endless php errors
15:30.09DocScrutinizer05didn't touch those
15:30.40DocScrutinizer05please do a backup before to tackle it
15:31.10freemangordonI guess it is me to fix that... though I wonder if it makes sense at all, given nothing gets imported in the autobuilder. Neither anything gets promoted
15:31.32DocScrutinizer05I wondered same
15:32.03freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: could you plase just rm/mv that huge log and call it a day?
15:32.10DocScrutinizer05it does a 5gig logs though, just errors, plus a 2.6G logs
15:32.10freemangordon*please
15:32.24freemangordon5GB for how long?
15:32.31DocScrutinizer05I'd guess it gets redone every other day
15:32.59freemangordonI doubt there is anything valuable in those logs
15:33.40DocScrutinizer05there is zilch, except that >>PHP Notice:  Uninitialized string offset: 0 in /usr/local/bin/packages/import-packages.php on line 135<<
15:34.14DocScrutinizer05and in a syslog there been quite a number of fastcgi segfaults
15:34.53freemangordonAnd given I have some health issues ATM (nothing serious, but still) and given I am going on a holiday for the next week, pretty please, if xes/warfare appear and don't object, just rm those logs
15:35.25freemangordonOr take the decision on your own, dunno
15:36.13freemangordonthis php notice will most-probably appear in the new logs as well, so nothing will get lost :)
15:36.31DocScrutinizer05of course
15:36.39freemangordonI may look at it. Someday.
15:37.46DocScrutinizer05so far the logs are no problem yet. But I might do a tail -n 3333 >~/fetch-extras.stderr.20210508.log && rm
15:38.29freemangordonIIUC this will keep the last 3333 lines, no?
15:38.52freemangordonif that's the case, it sounds sane to me
15:40.20DocScrutinizer05root@www1:/var/log# ll fet*
15:40.21DocScrutinizer05-rw-rw-r--+ 1 root root          0 Jun 28  2015 fetch-extras.std
15:40.23DocScrutinizer05-rw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 5801072873 May  8 15:31 fetch-extras.stderr.log
15:40.24DocScrutinizer05-rw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 2774721719 May  8 15:39 fetch-extras.stdout.log
15:41.42freemangordonthose are huge, better rm/split those
15:41.53DocScrutinizer05*first* line+  https://termbin.com/kqp3
15:42.06DocScrutinizer05tch the date
15:42.12DocScrutinizer05watch*
15:42.40DocScrutinizer05ooh, ok. February
15:42.54freemangordonyeah, February
15:43.07DocScrutinizer05about the time several other thinks broke too
15:43.28freemangordonany clue what has happened then?
15:43.40freemangordondist-upgrade?
15:44.10freemangordonwhat is the current ubuntu version?
15:44.17DocScrutinizer05OOM
15:44.21freemangordonah
15:44.43DocScrutinizer05syslog goes OOM kill POOOF
15:44.51freemangordonmaybe better reboot the server
15:44.57freemangordondunno
15:44.57DocScrutinizer05syslog stalled, other stuff borked
15:45.05DocScrutinizer05already did
15:45.08freemangordon:)
15:45.11freemangordonok
15:45.16DocScrutinizer05works again for now
15:45.22freemangordonnice
15:45.25freemangordonthanks!
15:45.34DocScrutinizer05I do the tail 3333 and call it a day
15:45.41freemangordon:nod:
15:45.58DocScrutinizer05goes to the todo postit
15:46.09DocScrutinizer05*eventually* ;-)
15:46.33DocScrutinizer05root@www1:/var/log# df -h .
15:46.34DocScrutinizer05Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
15:46.36DocScrutinizer05/dev/xvda        60G   40G   19G  68% /
15:46.55freemangordonnot bad I guess
15:46.56DocScrutinizer05and I didn't rm yet
15:46.59freemangordonah
15:47.02freemangordoneven better :)
15:47.10DocScrutinizer05thus no problem yet
15:47.14freemangordonyeah
15:47.33DocScrutinizer05maybe I just call it a day and leave the rm for the todo
15:48.05freemangordonwell, anyway you're on it. But... as you wish.
15:50.43DocScrutinizer05more concerning: https://termbin.com/2hhz
15:52.22freemangordonyeah, but I think admins shall fix that
15:52.46DocScrutinizer05the less I change now the less we need to learn about history when we actually tackle it
15:53.05freemangordonI tried to reach them on the admin channel ,lets see
15:53.08freemangordon:nod:
15:53.16DocScrutinizer05I queries them
15:53.23freemangordonok
15:53.24DocScrutinizer05queried
15:53.54DocScrutinizer05thanks for having a look at this
15:54.18freemangordonbut ofc. thanks to you for noticing it :)
15:54.44DocScrutinizer05:-) thanks to parazyd directing my focus on it
15:55.27DocScrutinizer05I wasn't aware there was a new VM that not even shows up in ganglia
15:58.53DocScrutinizer05there you are May  8 15:10:01 www1 CRON[21133]: (root) CMD (/usr/local/bin/packages/fetch-extras.sh 2>>/var/log/fetch-extras.stderr.log 1>>/var/log/fetch-extras.stdout.log)
15:59.02DocScrutinizer05(syslog)
16:03.40DocScrutinizer05cronjob every hour
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16:04.33freemangordonit should be like that
16:05.00DocScrutinizer05the question is rather why it's not in logrotate. Prolly was an ephemeral debugging thing meant to vanish
16:05.56freemangordonor rather inheritance фром Нокиа
16:06.02freemangordon*from Nokia
16:06.09DocScrutinizer05hmmm
16:06.56DocScrutinizer05wasn't this the damn critter that hogged all our RAM?
16:07.17DocScrutinizer05that I patched after months of fuzzing around with it
16:07.17freemangordonit shouldn;t be
16:08.07freemangordonnot sure what you're talking about though
16:10.42DocScrutinizer05nah, I looked into /usr/local/bin/packages/fetch-extras.sh - extreme crap, if that's my stuff I will never again touch a keyboard
16:11.04DocScrutinizer05-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9044 Mar 16  2013 /usr/local/bin/packages/fetch-extras.sh*
16:11.12freemangordonno, for sure this script came from Nokia
16:11.17DocScrutinizer05yep
16:11.20DocScrutinizer05nemein
16:11.23freemangordonyeah
16:11.51DocScrutinizer05warfare: hi!
16:11.56freemangordonwarfare: please look at the backlog from the last 30 minutes or so
16:12.13warfareregarding syslog-ng - rsyslogd can‘t start, there can‘t be two log daemons listening on the same udp socket ;)
16:12.27DocScrutinizer05ooh
16:12.49DocScrutinizer05nevertheless syslog stalled (size 0) since february or somesuch
16:13.25DocScrutinizer05I created dmesg dumps to ~root
16:13.36DocScrutinizer05I rebootet www
16:13.49DocScrutinizer05syslog works again
16:14.07warfarethat was probably fallout from apache getting oom killed.
16:14.30DocScrutinizer05yep fallout from a OOM but I didn't check what caused it
16:15.23warfareApache/midgard most likely.
16:16.23DocScrutinizer05not sure about this one either https://termbin.com/dpy7n
16:17.46DocScrutinizer05I gotta run. I got booze for tonight / tomorrow but no milk for my coffee
16:18.04DocScrutinizer05bbl
16:18.50freemangordonwarfare: also, seems there are more than 100 packages to be upgraded
16:21.57DocScrutinizer05oh warfare could you add maedevu VM to ganglia/icinga?
16:23.23warfarefreemangordon: yes, the machines need som love.
16:25.46freemangordon:)
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16:36.13DocScrutinizer05no smartctl on bladeb ? o.O
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