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| 00:56.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkg |
| 00:56.44 | infobot | rumour has it, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ |
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| 03:26.23 | enyc | mewos |
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| 04:19.30 | L29Ah | ohhh so enyc isn't a bot |
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| 07:04.52 | enyc | L29Ah: =) |
| 07:05.02 | enyc | L29Ah: are you a 29Ah lithium battery? |
| 07:06.28 | KotCzarny | you should've seen what he has done to his n900 |
| 07:07.40 | L29Ah | sadly i've lost that photo, and cops have robbed me of my cute n900 |
| 07:07.50 | L29Ah | now i'm on a plain one and suffer due to short battery life |
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| 10:49.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, that's the price to pay for keeping battery hogs like original Hildon desktop and Skype |
| 10:51.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | or even installing a genuine Debian without power saving patches |
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| 10:54.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | or just keeping WLAN scanning for APs every 5 minutes |
| 10:55.54 | L29Ah | my device is idle 99% of time |
| 10:56.13 | L29Ah | but pretty stock with cssu |
| 10:57.24 | L29Ah | maybe the original flash sucks wrt idle consumption |
| 10:57.41 | L29Ah | i've lost all my hacks with the device as i didn't back anything up |
| 10:58.04 | L29Ah | maybe i should actually try pressing on the cops to get it back |
| 10:59.01 | L29Ah | as i look into more modern smartphones, it feels like the low power technology went kinda backwards |
| 10:59.32 | L29Ah | they feature huge batteries compared to n900 but about the same idle battery time |
| 11:00.06 | sicelo | Larger screens maybe? |
| 11:00.07 | KotCzarny | thats because android is a fat, hungry pig |
| 11:00.14 | L29Ah | and they spend it in s2ram (as otherwise the power consumption is exorbitant) while n900 can actually run processes continually |
| 11:01.11 | L29Ah | sicelo: KotCzarny on PinePhone you have no android, screen is off, but you still waste half a watt or smth on the idling CPU afair |
| 11:01.23 | KotCzarny | pinephone uses inefficient soc |
| 11:01.40 | KotCzarny | that might change once crust gets more mature |
| 11:01.54 | KotCzarny | but its a lots of work for smaeul and others |
| 11:02.41 | L29Ah | KotCzarny: ohh, what are they switching to? |
| 11:03.00 | KotCzarny | crust is firmware to run on risc core |
| 11:03.24 | KotCzarny | ie. can put most of the phone to sleep when not needed |
| 11:03.26 | L29Ah | KotCzarny: crust has nothing to do with the main CPU, no? |
| 11:03.37 | KotCzarny | yes, see the 'run on the risc core' part |
| 11:03.59 | KotCzarny | it communicates with arm cores/os via internal message box |
| 11:04.09 | L29Ah | that has to be effectively offline and spends a LOT of time to go to sleep or to wake up, making it useless for continuous tasks, unlike n900 that can run sshd just fine |
| 11:04.16 | KotCzarny | but can control almost any hw subsystem |
| 11:04.35 | KotCzarny | not necessarily |
| 11:04.56 | KotCzarny | but anyway, allwinner isnt the most power efficient soc in the world to start with |
| 11:05.14 | KotCzarny | still, one of the few nicely REd |
| 11:05.24 | KotCzarny | and supported in mainline linux |
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| 16:35.31 | parazyd | Does Maemo e.V. hold copyright to the Nokia Gtk themes (alpha/beta)? |
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| 17:26.22 | sixwheeledbeast | is there some licensing issue with them? |
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