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| 12:27.55 | thejsa | hey there! i've just got my first n900, reflashed with latest fremantle and installed cssu-thumb, but having issues trying to get u-boot installed to play with leste |
| 12:28.28 | thejsa | it's complaining about the kernel-modules package, and if I try to install that it threatens to basically obliterate all the packages on my system, which sounds like a very bad idea; is there any way around this? |
| 12:30.04 | KotCzarny | if it's fresh device, you can always reflash, no? |
| 12:30.25 | KotCzarny | but most likely you are doing something wrong |
| 12:31.07 | thejsa | yeah, could reflash again; was a bit of a pain dealing with VMs and such though |
| 12:31.26 | thejsa | I'm assuming there's some issue with the fact I'm trying to install u-boot after upgrading to cssu |
| 12:35.25 | thejsa | reflash time it is then :p |
| 12:35.26 | thejsa | thanks |
| 12:36.04 | sicelo | What is the actual message you get? |
| 12:36.36 | sicelo | It's somewhat ok for u-boot to threaten to overwrite your existing kernel |
| 12:37.18 | sicelo | Because that's actually what it does ... sits in kernel area and loads a real kernel that you've defined. |
| 12:37.50 | sicelo | I'd say install u-boot, and only reflash if there are issues |
| 12:38.04 | thejsa | yeah; here it's saying there's an unmet dependency, kernel-modules, and refuses to continue (one second, I'll grab a pastebin link) |
| 12:38.59 | thejsa | sources.list and apt output when trying to install u-boot flasher -- https://paste.debian.net/1196021/ |
| 12:39.11 | sicelo | Because you are on thumb, after installing u-boot and u-boot-tools, ensure you set up the thumb kernel to boot by default. See the u-boot thread on talk.maemo.org for details. |
| 12:39.40 | sicelo | Make sure you do this BEFORE you power off or reboot the device |
| 12:40.52 | thejsa | thanks; main issue is not really sure how to even get u-boot installed at all |
| 12:42.29 | thejsa | since it seems I can't install u-boot-flasher without dealing with this kernel-modules issue, as installing kernel-modules as it requests would hose my system: https://paste.debian.net/1196022/ |
| 12:42.31 | sicelo | Install the kernel and modules it wants :-) |
| 12:42.52 | sicelo | Those should be thumb enabled, iirc |
| 12:43.42 | thejsa | something seems wrong though since I don't think installing the kernel-modules package should usually threaten to remove pretty much every package on the system, including apt |
| 12:43.42 | sicelo | In any case, since you'll be setting up a default boot menu entry (as I mentioned), then you can still point that entry to the original kernel |
| 12:44.06 | KotCzarny | maemo is just like that |
| 12:44.33 | KotCzarny | there is single metapackage per release |
| 12:44.58 | KotCzarny | is one of the packages that it depends on gets uninstalled, it takes the rest with it |
| 12:45.22 | KotCzarny | that's why you should be cautious when hacking around with apt/dpkg\ |
| 12:45.58 | thejsa | yeah, reminded me of the ubuntu-desktop metapackages on ubuntu which had similar traits |
| 12:46.07 | sicelo | Show the output which wants to remove everything |
| 12:46.15 | thejsa | here: https://paste.debian.net/1196022/ |
| 12:46.27 | sicelo | Also, for Maemo Leste, you may want to join #maemo-leste |
| 12:47.00 | sicelo | Okay that looks bad :-p |
| 12:47.07 | thejsa | yeah hahaha |
| 12:47.10 | sicelo | I forgot how to handle that one safely |
| 12:47.39 | sicelo | There was a way though ... but I haven't played with installing u-boot in a while now |
| 12:48.03 | bencoh | hmm, lemme check what's installed on my phone |
| 12:51.55 | sicelo | If all fails, reflash to cssu (not thumb), install u-boot, then only afterwards go thumb |
| 13:02.10 | bencoh | thejsa: http://pastebin.notk.org/pastebin.php?show=mc2cc6b |
| 13:02.41 | bencoh | that's cssu-stable (iirc) with a few additions though, not thumb |
| 13:03.04 | Pali | Hello! Has somebody N8x0/770 device in hands? I would like to see first 2kB of kernel MTD partition... |
| 13:03.52 | Pali | it can be read (dumped to file header.bin) by following command on N8x0/770 device: nanddump --omitoob -s 0 -l 2048 -f header.bin /dev/mtd2 |
| 13:08.39 | thejsa | sicelo: thanks! I think I'll go for a reflash as you suggested, probably easier and quicker than trying to untangle all this |
| 13:09.44 | thejsa | bencoh: thanks for grabbing that, reflashing w/ stable now |
| 13:12.32 | enyc | meows |
| 13:13.04 | enyc | thejsa: hrrm not sru ewhat i did but i can say u-boot-flasher went ok |
| 13:13.15 | enyc | thejsa: i would say I got kernel power for u-boot installed first |
| 13:13.18 | enyc | inrluhing modules |
| 13:13.24 | enyc | which presumuboly yo uhave to have for thumb to behave |
| 13:13.46 | thejsa | installed kernel power for u-boot a lil while ago but didn't seem to make much difference |
| 13:13.57 | thejsa | well, to the u-boot situation anyway |
| 13:18.53 | bencoh | hmm, KotCzarny used to build oscp for n8x0 as well, maybe he still has one around |
| 14:20.43 | KotCzarny | unfortunatelly my n8x0 is at remote location |
| 14:20.49 | KotCzarny | so i cant get to it |
| 14:20.56 | KotCzarny | but maybe i have mtd dump somewhere |
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| 14:22.45 | KotCzarny | yup, got it, let me dd the block |
| 14:24.54 | KotCzarny | https://mrrau.eu:20281/n800/n800-p2-2k.bin |
| 14:24.56 | KotCzarny | here you gu |
| 14:24.59 | KotCzarny | *go |
| 14:25.15 | KotCzarny | but i dont remember what i used to dump it |
| 14:26.14 | KotCzarny | it might have been done with dd and /dev/mtdblock |
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| 15:22.08 | Pali | KotCzarny: thanks! |
| 15:22.34 | Pali | can you "dd" also whole partition? |
| 15:27.20 | Pali | just to check if your kernel image in that partition has size 1530880 bytes |
| 15:27.43 | Pali | it is 1.45MB so seems plausible (below 2MB limit) |
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| 15:44.49 | Pali | now I pushed lot of changes to https://github.com/pali/0xFFFF flasher and fiasco image unpacker/generator |
| 15:45.14 | Pali | feel free to test it! now it supports unpacking also /home partition from vanilla/mmc fiasco image |
| 15:45.45 | Pali | (yes, /home partition is included in vanilla/mmc image as tarball, not as ext3) |
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| 22:42.03 | KotCzarny | pali: |
| 22:42.11 | KotCzarny | https://mrrau.eu:20281/n800/n800-p2.bin |
| 22:43.41 | KotCzarny | if you need anything else shout, i'm heading to bed now though |
| 22:46.02 | Pali | kernel in that dump ends at offset 0x001763c8 |
| 22:46.19 | Pali | aligned offset is 0x001763d0 |
| 22:46.32 | Pali | which is 1530880 (in decimal) |
| 22:46.54 | KotCzarny | keep in mind those are dd dumps of mtdblock |
| 22:47.08 | KotCzarny | dont know if it matters |
| 22:47.10 | Pali | so perfecly matches what I predicted |
| 22:47.16 | KotCzarny | that's good then |
| 22:47.30 | Pali | thanks for confirmation) |
| 22:47.45 | KotCzarny | np, and thanks for still hacking at those old babies |
| 22:48.40 | Pali | I have already pushed commit into 0xFFFF https://github.com/pali/0xFFFF/commit/a5279bffaf4ac2a97c5a443978a2abb4189eb765 which parses alse these dumps |
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