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| 10:55.06 | Maxdamantus | Hmm .. wonder if there's a shortcut to open the hildon-status-menu dialogue.. my digitiser seems to have gotten worse. |
| 10:58.24 | Maxdamantus | (or some dbus command that I can bind to a key combination) |
| 11:01.26 | KotCzarny | you can try xdo + location click |
| 11:02.13 | Maxdamantus | Heh. |
| 11:02.14 | KotCzarny | or xdotool |
| 11:03.27 | KotCzarny | and you can always hack the hildon source to add a shortcut |
| 11:06.36 | Maxdamantus | Seems that you can detect key presses specifically in the task switcher, with "/apps/osso/hildon-desktop/key-actions/dbus_launcher_navigator", which would be a convenient place to put the shortcut, but probably need some way other than xdo to open the menu from there. |
| 11:07.38 | KotCzarny | you can use xdotool to 'click' in 0,0 |
| 11:08.23 | Maxdamantus | 0,0 will open the task switcher, which already has a keyboard shortcut (ctrl-escape; I already use that a lot) |
| 11:08.46 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 11:09.10 | KotCzarny | what is hildon status menu then |
| 11:09.18 | Maxdamantus | and in the task switcher you can't directly open the status menu dialogue. |
| 11:09.38 | Maxdamantus | The dialogue with network connection, volume, etc. |
| 11:10.20 | Maxdamantus | er, ctrl-backspace* |
| 11:11.17 | bencoh | what if you click on, say, 5,5 ? |
| 11:11.21 | bencoh | or some other coordinate |
| 11:11.33 | bencoh | ah, not 5,5, nevermind |
| 11:11.53 | bencoh | basically the status-menu button coordinates, not sure what those would be |
| 11:12.10 | KotCzarny | i still dont know what is hildon status menu, must be rusty memory |
| 11:12.24 | KotCzarny | because status panel applets all have specific coords then |
| 11:12.31 | bencoh | KotCzarny: the thing with the clock and various status applet |
| 11:12.52 | KotCzarny | i must find my n900 and check |
| 11:13.26 | bencoh | KotCzarny: |
| 11:13.28 | bencoh | https://tabletui.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/14.png |
| 11:14.45 | KotCzarny | then yeah, most likely 240,0 click |
| 11:14.56 | bencoh | depends on the theme actually |
| 11:14.57 | KotCzarny | or 64,0 |
| 11:15.07 | bencoh | (I think) |
| 11:15.41 | KotCzarny | still, still would need additional clicks to do anything with it |
| 11:16.23 | KotCzarny | xorg had mouse-emulation mode |
| 11:16.42 | KotCzarny | maybe it's not completely disabled in maemo |
| 11:19.53 | Maxdamantus | I've been wanting to experiment with mouse emulation using the touchscreen. |
| 11:20.06 | Maxdamantus | Wonder if there's something you can just tell to Xorg to make that happen. |
| 11:20.30 | Maxdamantus | (ie, basically use the touchscreen as a relative positioned device rather than absolute) |
| 11:20.45 | KotCzarny | as in 'gamepad overlay' type of thingy? ;) |
| 11:21.08 | Maxdamantus | No, as in just pretend it's a touchpad. |
| 11:21.12 | Maxdamantus | like on a laptop. |
| 11:21.42 | Maxdamantus | So you just have a regular mouse and you move the position of the mouse relatively. |
| 11:23.40 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.41 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.41 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:24.22 | KotCzarny | but it might be set up differently on 2009's xorg |
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| 11:25.22 | KotCzarny | is xinput available on maemo? |
| 11:26.09 | KotCzarny | xinput set-mode ABSOLUTE|RELATIVE |
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| 11:43.44 | bencoh | I don't think it is, but adding it shouldn't be too hard |
| 11:47.12 | Maxdamantus | xinput 1.6 or whatever I was trying to build is too recent for some of the packages in maemo, will try building an older version tomorrow. I have a feeling I've actually already tried just setting the mode to relative but it didn't work. |
| 11:47.42 | Maxdamantus | Will try on my laptop at work tomorrow, since that has a touchscreen. |
| 11:47.56 | KotCzarny | maybe the driver code for touchscreen has some param |
| 11:48.01 | KotCzarny | ie. kernel module option |
| 11:48.45 | KotCzarny | which interface touchscreen uses in x for maemo? |
| 11:49.22 | Maxdamantus | interface? it's just using evdev. |
| 11:49.30 | KotCzarny | evdev is and interface |
| 11:49.44 | KotCzarny | then maybe those options i've pasted earlier could work |
| 11:50.07 | KotCzarny | replacing absolute with relative or whatever is supported |
| 11:50.21 | KotCzarny | but it would also need enabling mouse pointer |
| 11:50.37 | KotCzarny | and disabling autoclicking on press |
| 11:54.38 | Maxdamantus | Right, so that's probably why you can't just set the mode. |
| 11:57.08 | KotCzarny | some tap to click should be in touchscreen driver |
| 11:57.35 | Maxdamantus | Sounds like that mode indeed isn't for controlling how the input driver is meant to handle the input but for setting some flag in events sent to clients. |
| 11:57.59 | Maxdamantus | so when an X client receives a "mouse" event, it just has a flag that says whether it was from an "absolute" device or from a "relative" device. |
| 11:58.32 | KotCzarny | still a nice idea to make, and game emu folks would love it 10 years ago |
| 11:58.33 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 11:58.55 | Maxdamantus | I think I saw in a video that Pinephone was doing it. |
| 11:59.10 | KotCzarny | pinephone use recent software |
| 11:59.18 | KotCzarny | so it's easier to pull off |
| 12:19.21 | KotCzarny | *uses |
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