| 00:23.58 | l_bratch | Merry Christmas to the Maemo community |
| 00:30.35 | sunshavi | l_bratch: Thanks. and Merry Christmas too |
| 00:33.01 | l_bratch | :D |
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| 15:17.37 | CatButts | ~sailfish |
| 15:17.42 | CatButts | ~sailfishos |
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| 18:19.02 | sunshavi | CatButts: create is not working on the ""J2ME SDK Mobile". Any tip for trying to de a hello-world on my moto razor |
| 18:19.33 | CatButts | no idea, I have not touched that software in ages |
| 18:19.40 | CatButts | it came as a curiosity |
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| 18:34.41 | sunshavi | Mmm. ok. Did It work for You on the phone? |
| 18:34.59 | sunshavi | CatButts: ^^^ |
| 18:35.30 | CatButts | on my SE w800i, it worked hello world |
| 18:35.42 | CatButts | it probably helped that I had patched firmware |
| 18:35.51 | CatButts | to deal with file permissions |
| 18:36.05 | CatButts | beyond hello world, phone ran out of memory |
| 18:36.16 | CatButts | trying to compile |
| 18:37.47 | sunshavi | ok. That is good to know. Did You try it on the emulator? |
| 18:38.41 | CatButts | yes |
| 18:38.48 | CatButts | I forgot which emu I used |
| 18:39.05 | CatButts | kemulator, maybe |
| 18:39.36 | sunshavi | Mmm. The one that comes wyth j2me WTK? |
| 18:40.46 | CatButts | kemulator is different one |
| 18:45.38 | sunshavi | ok. BTW. Did You happen to have phoneME| openWTK? |
| 18:46.49 | CatButts | by openwtk, you mean the emu that comes with 3.x WTKs? |
| 18:47.13 | CatButts | I have it, but it probably exists in abandoned state |
| 18:52.22 | sunshavi | CatButts: my machine is an SBC (opi+2e). j2me dev is not possible cos preverify tool is missing. |
| 18:52.38 | CatButts | what's an SBC? |
| 18:52.46 | sunshavi | so everytime i want to try an idea i need to fire-up x86 machine |
| 18:52.52 | sunshavi | Single Board Computer |
| 18:52.59 | CatButts | ah |
| 18:53.00 | sunshavi | ARM arch |
| 18:53.03 | CatButts | like a Pi? |
| 18:53.18 | sunshavi | more open than Pi |
| 18:53.56 | CatButts | hmmmmm, preverification... |
| 18:54.05 | CatButts | can you do j2se? |
| 18:54.09 | CatButts | on your SBC? |
| 18:54.36 | sunshavi | yes. i run java on my SBC |
| 18:55.19 | sunshavi | https://termbin.com/ciqn |
| 18:55.42 | CatButts | Proguard for J2ME does preverification |
| 18:56.16 | CatButts | besides optimization and obfuscation |
| 18:57.29 | sunshavi | Right. But not available for ARM_arch |
| 18:57.46 | sunshavi | s/ARM_ach/ARM-arch/ |
| 18:58.04 | CatButts | do you mean j2se? |
| 18:58.19 | CatButts | proguard is full java |
| 18:58.31 | CatButts | though, you might want older version |
| 18:58.45 | CatButts | not sure if recent one still supports j2me |
| 18:58.58 | sunshavi | mmm. when on x86 I use jdk 1.8 |
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| 19:00.42 | sunshavi | with maven and j2me-maven-plugin |
| 19:01.56 | sunshavi | i have tried doing the same with my SBC. But preverification is not completed cos is not available for ARM. |
| 19:03.06 | CatButts | I don't know how to integrate it into your setup, but proguard is full java and does preverification |
| 19:03.42 | sunshavi | I thought "J2ME Mobile SDK" could be used for doing on device development. But As You have told me memory is not enough |
| 19:04.38 | CatButts | J2ME Mobile SDK is more of an insane proof-of-concept application |
| 19:05.10 | sunshavi | on my pom.xml proguard is mentioned |
| 19:05.32 | sunshavi | <proguardInclude>proguard.conf</proguardInclude> |
| 19:06.27 | CatButts | all I know is this |
| 19:06.28 | CatButts | http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/proguardgui.png |
| 19:09.36 | sunshavi | Oh. I see what You meant |
| 19:11.12 | sunshavi | And Yes. It should be integrated with the pom.xml for this to work. :( |
| 19:12.51 | sunshavi | My main curiosity today was knowing If You had got "J2ME Mobile SDK" working on device. |
| 19:15.57 | sunshavi | You know for sending SMS's. I send from my computer aka SBC the file 'mensaje.vcf'. And I insert content on the field URL. then on the device I just copy the url text from the contact record. and send the sms based on the text written on the computer. But I have a limit of 128 characters |
| 19:19.25 | sunshavi | i have got and basic l2cap server and client working between computer(and also n900) and device (the motorolla razor). I would like to use the j2me-l2cap-client talking to my server for bypassing 128 characters limit. That's the reason I am asking all of this questions. Thanks for the info |
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| 19:57.01 | Pali | hello, just question, has somebody still working nokia n9? I would like to know its usb ids when connected to pc |
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| 20:13.43 | Maxdamantus | Sure. |
| 20:13.46 | Maxdamantus | https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/8d6fef87508b8f45356b9b2bff0736b6 |
| 20:14.07 | Maxdamantus | That's plugging it in before it was turned on. |
| 20:15.34 | Maxdamantus | (it's now in the charging stateâI suspect it would need to be charged to get further, if it has different ids after booting) |
| 20:16.26 | Pali | perfect, thank you! |
| 20:21.44 | Pali | so there are ids/strings for cold flashing (first one), nolo flashing (second one) and mass storage mode (third one) |
| 20:22.46 | Pali | once it charges and startup, could you also change usb mode to get other ids? (I think there should be pc suite) |
| 20:27.24 | Maxdamantus | Yep, updated the gist, with comments. |
| 20:28.00 | Maxdamantus | I think "Sync and connect" is probably PC suite. |
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| 20:31.15 | Maxdamantus | wonders why a CD-ROM device appears in Sync and connect. |
| 20:31.20 | Maxdamantus | Doesn't seem to be mountable. |
| 20:32.10 | Pali | I read about it and CD-ROM should appear with windows (kernel) drivers for other usb functionality |
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| 20:39.04 | Maxdamantus | Maybe it does something funny so the CD only works on Windows. |
| 20:39.26 | Maxdamantus | just gets ENOMEDIUM. |
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| 23:22.03 | brolin_empey | sunshavi: I have not redd all of the recent discussion but how about using an x86 SBC instead of an ARM SBC? |
| 23:22.35 | sunshavi | brolin_empey: Hey |
| 23:24.42 | sunshavi | Yes. That could be an option. I would like to have an SBC with freebsd and jaling a lunix-box for cross compilation. that would be a dream come true |
| 23:26.09 | sunshavi | 4 Gb Mem should be the minimum I think for that use case |
| 23:27.00 | sunshavi | and also I would let me use poudiere for compiling packages for freebsd on my arm SBC. You know arm use less energy than x86 |
