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| 06:48.45 | ceene | hi guys! |
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| 07:11.07 | ceene | sicelo: poor Yappari :( |
| 07:11.41 | sicelo | :-) |
| 07:11.45 | sicelo | yeah |
| 07:12.05 | ceene | there's no alternative whatsapp client working anymore, is it? |
| 07:12.44 | sicelo | but, perhaps your UI can be use by Maemo Leste for SMSes, Telegram, etc |
| 07:13.11 | ceene | it would be a nice GUI for Telegram indeed |
| 07:13.49 | sicelo | ceene: yes doesn't seem to be. in the linux world, people who need whatsapp typically use anbox nowadays |
| 07:14.41 | ceene | i tried anbox long long ago and couldn't get it to work |
| 07:14.42 | ceene | it works now? |
| 07:15.44 | sicelo | seems it works. at least on yt a couple of videos show whatsapp running in it on the pinephone |
| 07:17.06 | ceene | cool |
| 07:17.22 | ceene | just yesterday I installed Leste in one of my N900, and upgraded the easydebian installation on the other |
| 07:17.33 | ceene | I assume Anbox won't run on the N900 |
| 07:21.21 | sicelo | due to ram, unlikely. someone got it working on droid 4 however, at least as POC |
| 07:26.54 | ceene | oh, it exists on devuan on apt |
| 07:26.57 | ceene | i'll have to try it |
| 07:36.06 | sicelo | Yeah |
| 07:36.44 | sicelo | btw in Leste is qt5, not qt4, but surely the porting won't be difficult |
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| 08:20.13 | ceene | and now they've released qt6 |
| 08:20.16 | ceene | we're always behind |
| 08:21.34 | sicelo | :P |
| 08:21.55 | sicelo | well, leste likely can upgrade to qt6 as well |
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| 09:17.30 | clort | ï½ï½
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| 09:26.41 | bencoh | you'd android kernel bits for anbox to work, by the way |
| 09:27.01 | bencoh | (either as a module, or enabled builtin) |
| 09:30.04 | clort | how is compatibility and speed vs something like alien dalvik |
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| 15:12.46 | CatButts | ~sb |
| 15:12.47 | infobot | scratchbox is probably a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB |
| 15:18.14 | CatButts | if I want to extract headers and libs for compiling maemo5 applications, is server vm image fine too, or is desktop one absolutely necesary? |
| 15:28.44 | Pali | IIRC X11 is needed only in case you want to run GUI X11 applications |
| 15:29.14 | Pali | if your "compilation process" does not require to use X11, you do not need X11 desktop at all |
| 15:30.19 | bencoh | I've worked with a headless vm only for years :) |
| 15:30.58 | CatButts | does X11 presence also imply headers for compiling N900 applications? |
| 15:31.18 | bencoh | ? |
| 15:32.04 | CatButts | does X11 being present or not in image affect my ability to compile N900 apps that may depend on X11? |
| 15:32.28 | bencoh | you can do anything you want/need with a headless image |
| 15:32.55 | CatButts | ah, so server image has all I would need |
| 15:32.59 | bencoh | yeah |
| 15:33.44 | bencoh | iirc I manually installed scratchbox on a headless debian vm back then |
| 15:34.53 | CatButts | I'm gonna try my hand at a headers+libs onto a windows hosted ARM crosscompiler |
| 15:35.12 | bencoh | side question, but ... do you enjoy suffering? :] |
| 15:35.22 | CatButts | maybe |
| 15:35.34 | bencoh | oh, this explains that I guess ;> |
| 15:35.38 | CatButts | I wouldn't be running windows XP if I didn't! |
| 15:35.43 | bencoh | nods |
| 15:37.24 | KotCzarny | xp is fine |
| 15:37.37 | CatButts | although, last time I tried years ago, I remember there was at least 1 pair of headers that were named almost the same, with different capitalization |
| 15:37.45 | KotCzarny | if you've said winme, then you would be right |
| 15:38.04 | KotCzarny | xp supports ntfs |
| 15:38.10 | KotCzarny | which has case sensitive fs |
| 15:38.36 | KotCzarny | but why not just run linux in virtualbox or something? |
| 15:38.47 | KotCzarny | you have vm image already |
| 15:38.48 | KotCzarny | just boot it |
| 15:39.00 | KotCzarny | kinda obvious |
| 15:41.10 | CatButts | I want to compile a linux application with a batch file, so I can take revenge on all those codebases for compiling crossplatform/windows, where you have config sh scripts and makefiles laced with linux commands |
| 15:41.17 | CatButts | take that! |
| 15:41.44 | KotCzarny | you should just get a work, you have too much time |
| 15:41.51 | KotCzarny | s/work/job/ |
| 15:44.34 | CatButts | what GCC version is the one that comes by default with the SDK? |
| 15:44.40 | CatButts | 4.something |
| 15:44.53 | KotCzarny | 4.2 |
| 15:59.57 | CatButts | ok, time to suffer |
| 16:00.44 | CatButts | for starters, there seem to be multiple names, such as AArch32 AArch64, eabi gnueabi gnueabi-hf |
| 16:00.56 | CatButts | I probably want gnueabi one |
| 16:01.08 | CatButts | what of AArch? |
| 16:05.05 | CatButts | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AArch64 ah ok, so past N900's capabilities, if this recent(2011) |
| 16:06.08 | sicelo | >> you should just get a job, you have too much time << :-D |
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| 16:19.52 | CatButts | > armeb-linux-gnueabi |
| 16:20.02 | CatButts | oh, it gets slightly more complicated |
| 16:20.09 | CatButts | ARM is bi-endianess, right? |
| 16:20.28 | CatButts | but software/OS can be compiled for either |
| 16:20.38 | CatButts | what endianess is Maemo? |
| 16:22.15 | CatButts | I suspect LE, but it doesn't hurt to ask |
| 16:27.47 | bencoh | LE |
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