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| 04:00.47 | Maxdaman1us | Hmm .. got another cmt-speech failure. This time I was able to hear the person on the other end but they couldn't hear me (rebooted to fix it) |
| 04:01.36 | sicelo | :-/ |
| 04:02.27 | Maxdaman1us | The syslog errors were different though. |
| 04:03.00 | Maxdaman1us | Dec 8 16:06:54 orcus user.err pulseaudio[875]: voice-cmtspeech.c: cmtspeech_dl_buffer_release(0x385f8) failed return value -32. |
| 04:04.20 | Maxdaman1us | (when I had cmt-speech errors one time about half a year ago, I wasn't able to hear, not sure about the other end) |
| 04:05.04 | Maxdaman1us | (also, that last time the issue persisted across multiple phone calls I made, but today I just rebooted when the person I called said they couldn't hear me) |
| 04:15.48 | sicelo | I wonder if it's hw or sw |
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| 09:47.14 | CatButts | I vaguely remember having Faster Application Manager before, but somebody telling me something negative about it, and me uninstalling it as a result |
| 09:48.49 | CatButts | I am trying to remember what that caution was |
| 09:49.32 | sixwheeledbeast | ~hamvsfam |
| 09:49.33 | infobot | methinks hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 |
| 09:49.37 | sixwheeledbeast | ~speedham |
| 09:49.46 | sixwheeledbeast | ~speedyham |
| 09:49.46 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in ~CSSU replacing the original Hildon application Manager there |
| 09:54.03 | CatButts | ah, now it makes sense |
| 09:54.24 | CatButts | shame, because I was liking fapman's interface |
| 09:54.50 | KotCzarny | well |
| 09:55.05 | KotCzarny | if you use apt-get install you might as well go with fapman |
| 09:56.50 | CatButts | ~overclocking |
| 09:56.50 | infobot | "OK, listen up. This is your CPU." apt drops the CPU into a hot frying pan. "This is your CPU on overclocking. Any questions?" |
| 09:57.28 | sixwheeledbeast | i short maemo wasn't really intended to use apt directly and FAM is a wrapper for apt. |
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| 09:58.32 | CatButts | ~smartreflex |
| 10:05.08 | CatButts | it's nice having the N900 at 1050Mhz, but I wonder for how long |
| 10:07.47 | CatButts | *1150Mhz |
| 10:08.21 | bencoh | I honestly wouldn't do that nowadays |
| 10:08.36 | bencoh | especially considering that you could just buy a droid4 if you want a more powerful device |
| 10:09.38 | CatButts | or stop trying to use Sunvox :p |
| 10:10.48 | bencoh | I was wondering whether it was opensource, but looks like it eventually moved to close-source |
| 10:26.58 | CatButts | Sunvox is too hot for the device |
| 10:35.38 | clort | one does not just buy *a* droid4 |
| 10:36.50 | clort | one begins a collection! :) |
| 10:37.49 | CatButts | https://droid4x.cc/ this site does not inspire me confidence |
| 10:38.01 | CatButts | unrelated |
| 10:41.25 | buZz | lol 'droid 4 X' |
| 10:41.27 | buZz | doesnt support X |
| 10:41.28 | buZz | :D |
| 10:43.54 | sicelo | should experiment with overclocking N900 on mainline |
| 10:44.11 | sicelo | but not very high :-) |
| 10:44.19 | KotCzarny | ka-b00m..pshhhh |
| 10:44.35 | CatButts | http://cat.butt.care:3434/droid4x_phone_home.png |
| 11:05.49 | bencoh | sicelo: :( |
| 11:06.00 | bencoh | I thought you kinda liked your n900 :> |
| 11:06.25 | sicelo | i do :-) |
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| 11:07.04 | sicelo | well, it's just to test and see what's possible, not to run it like that all the time |
| 11:07.38 | sicelo | mayne i could do it on the device with broken modem and faulty touchscreen |
| 11:07.39 | bencoh | that being said, I think freemangordon's device runs overclocked most of the time |
| 11:08.00 | bencoh | so ... it might be safe at some reasonable freqs |
| 11:08.45 | bencoh | dunno about mainline though :) |
| 11:09.36 | sixwheeledbeast | It was popular to run KP ideal profile which was 700-800ish IIRC? |
| 11:10.11 | sixwheeledbeast | I actually used KP to get 125Mhz |
| 11:11.11 | sixwheeledbeast | It was removed to help battery but i found the opposite at the time, listening to music on headphones all day back then. |
| 11:11.25 | CatButts | underclocking might be useful for testing and performance tuning applications |
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| 11:14.45 | clort | omap3 was quite overclockeable |
| 11:15.10 | KotCzarny | if you dont mind shorter battery life |
| 11:15.48 | clort | i don't recall what KP's governor did |
| 11:16.11 | clort | but the power consumption for different workloads, such as webbrowsing is complex |
| 11:17.05 | clort | we all know this i guess. phone cpus 'burst' now |
| 11:18.12 | bencoh | it's not that complex in the end, most eventually reached the conclusion that it's better to clock the cpu at max clock when working, to rush to idle |
| 11:18.37 | sicelo | even fremantle did. during a phone call, iirc freq was always locked to 600MHz |
| 11:19.10 | bencoh | unless your platform has broken idle support and/or entering/exiting from idle takes too much time |
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| 11:29.04 | sixwheeledbeast | the phone application forced it |
| 11:29.51 | sixwheeledbeast | phone application does a lot of weird things like that, they seem like an after thought |
| 11:31.22 | sixwheeledbeast | race to idle was the future, but maemo OS works different in that regard you can have multiple things open and working. |
| 11:31.43 | KotCzarny | well, during phone call you are already draining quite a lot of power |
| 11:32.10 | KotCzarny | and unless you are on loudspeaker you arent browsing or anything |
| 11:32.38 | clort | no manufacturer did the obvious thing of offering phones with differing thickness back cases for different sized batteries |
| 11:33.45 | clort | or a spare little battery to enable swap without shutdown |
| 11:34.07 | sixwheeledbeast | I don't have an issue with it must be for a reason but it seems like an after thought because of the way it just brute forces everything. |
| 11:34.31 | sixwheeledbeast | Lithium power pack became a thing and are universal |
| 11:36.17 | clort | yeah but still not "good". power pads on the back for stick-on supplemental power would have been doable too |
| 11:36.42 | clort | can be done with droid4 though, with carefully modified back cover |
| 11:37.05 | clort | two of the pogo pins accept +5v |
| 11:37.34 | clort | so one could manufacture a powerbank cover for d4 |
| 11:37.56 | sixwheeledbeast | we are talking 2009 release so designed before then. |
| 11:38.03 | sicelo | sixwheeledbeast: the phone, you mean? i thought the frequency lock was needed since call audio is handled via cpu on n900 |
| 11:38.15 | clort | 13 |
| 11:38.44 | sixwheeledbeast | I believe the modem needed the CPU power yer |
| 11:39.33 | sixwheeledbeast | More things like prox sensors etc, phone app has root access to do whatever |
| 11:40.35 | sixwheeledbeast | You can try to disable this things make them 444 but phone application will overwrite whatever it wants. |
| 11:40.52 | sixwheeledbeast | well whatever it "needs" i suppose |
| 11:42.37 | sixwheeledbeast | does leste have working phone and sms yet? |
| 11:50.59 | bencoh | iirc it still misses UI integration |
| 11:51.08 | bencoh | more than UI tbh |
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| 14:32.32 | CatButts | ~softfloat |
| 14:32.38 | CatButts | ~hardfloat |
| 14:32.48 | CatButts | meh |
| 14:32.50 | KotCzarny | ~weallfloathere |
| 14:33.59 | CatButts | Maemo 5 uses softfloat, yes? On softfloat OS, hardfloat cannot be used? |
| 15:08.39 | Wizzup | n900 supports hf just fine |
| 15:08.50 | Wizzup | not sure about fremantle |
| 15:09.25 | freemangordon | fremantle does not |
| 15:10.38 | freemangordon | bencoh: it has been running on 800MHz for ~10 years. TS started acting so I exchanged it couple of months ago with my backup device |
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| 16:06.04 | clort | i've had two n900s stolen |
| 16:07.17 | sixwheeledbeast | I'd be surprised if anyone knew what it was |
| 16:08.24 | clort | they did |
| 16:08.31 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 16:08.37 | KotCzarny | how long time ago it was? |
| 16:09.06 | clort | around 2012 the first one |
| 16:09.14 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: I've had some people in the weirdest places walk up to me and say "hey, that's the old nokia phone" about my droid 4 running leste |
| 16:09.29 | Wizzup | in fact that happened just last month in some mall |
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| 16:11.22 | clort | malls still exist? |
| 16:11.56 | clort | a shopping mall? |
| 16:13.24 | sicelo | :-/ |
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| 16:17.32 | bencoh | Wizzup: did you tell them about leste then? :) |
| 16:31.56 | sixwheeledbeast | what ... there's other commercial building beyond the ones I can see from my window? |
| 16:32.13 | buZz | lol |
| 16:32.25 | sixwheeledbeast | who knew outside existed this year |
| 16:34.09 | Wizzup | bencoh: yeah |
| 16:44.54 | clort | 404 |
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| 17:57.52 | CatButts | is the GCC used in Maemo SDK in anyway customized, or is it standard? |
| 17:58.19 | CatButts | I am contemplating commiting manual header+lib transplant |
| 17:58.34 | CatButts | onto a newer ARM crosscompiler |
| 17:58.38 | CatButts | GCC |
| 18:08.26 | KotCzarny | there are newer gccs on tmo |
| 18:08.31 | KotCzarny | search and install |
| 18:11.57 | CatButts | ~tmo |
| 18:11.57 | infobot | i guess tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. |
| 18:12.27 | CatButts | acronyms hate me |
| 18:12.40 | KotCzarny | talk.maemo.org |
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| 18:35.49 | buZz | ~t-mo |
| 18:35.49 | infobot | from memory, t-mo is T-Mobile |
| 18:35.55 | buZz | lol |
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| 21:39.44 | CatButts | coats his n900 in vegemite and overclocks it |
| 21:42.43 | sixwheeledbeast | some clever thermal properties of vegemite? |
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