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| 04:26.40 | untakenstupidnic | when i remove the sim the bootloop problem stops happening. the sim card was inside the n900 all the time and i can't imagine any physical damage had been done to it. neither n900 nor another phone i tested could detect it. |
| 04:27.00 | untakenstupidnic | the coverage is really low here, if that matters. |
| 04:28.35 | untakenstupidnic | how could that happen? (the sim not being detected, or the bootloop) |
| 04:30.40 | Maxdamantus | Maybe a problem with the modem? If there's no SIM, it probably won't try doing much with the modem. |
| 04:32.49 | Maxdamantus | Might be worth adding something to /sbin/preinit that logs kernel messages somewhere, eg `cat /dev/vkmsg >/somewhere &`, probably needs to remount root rw first. |
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| 07:12.42 | untakenstupidnic | Maxdamantus: any ideas about the undetected sim? i think even if the sim card is expired it still should be detected |
| 07:31.05 | Maxdamantus | Dunno. |
| 07:56.22 | KotCzarny | untakenstupidnic: clean the pads on simcard, check if pins in sim slot arent bent (dont bend them), check another sim card |
| 08:06.54 | inz | I've had one SIM card die while inside N900 |
| 08:07.09 | inz | It didn't cause bootloops though, just didn't work (in any other phone either) |
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| 09:23.27 | sixwheeledbeast | odds are the modem? but whereas most people have sim undetected it's causing a bootloop, maybe logs or dmesg would help? |
| 09:24.25 | sixwheeledbeast | it a pretty common failpoint for n900s they often require a reflow |
| 09:26.43 | untakenstupidnic | why would the sim die? :( |
| 09:27.02 | sixwheeledbeast | if a PAYG sim is expired it wouldn't be detected I can confirm that |
| 09:27.18 | sixwheeledbeast | not the sim the modem we are talking about |
| 09:27.28 | sixwheeledbeast | oh i see |
| 09:27.46 | sixwheeledbeast | I can't say I have had a broken sim but it could happen |
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| 09:31.16 | KotCzarny | doesnt broken modem result in nice yellow bar with a message? |
| 09:32.57 | KotCzarny | not a bootloop, just 'telephony functions disabled' |
| 09:33.22 | sixwheeledbeast | usually |
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| 11:38.43 | drathir_tor | KotCzarny: yea it does... at boot time warning but device is fully functional despite such fact... |
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| 13:45.02 | sixwheeledbeast | even if it does it after boot you get the banner |
| 13:51.44 | sunshavi | KotCzarny is right about the yellow bar. It is what i watch every time my n900 boots |
| 13:56.40 | sixwheeledbeast | the banner can happen long after boot tho if it's intermittent. I also recall someone complaining of watchdog kicking in with a modem issue but not getting the banner so I wouldn't rule hardware/modem issue out myself. |
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