| 00:01.16 | untakenstupidnic | is there a way to install stuff on home? n900 bootloops often and i keep losing the programs. you can't make a backup every second. |
| 00:03.20 | xmn | There is a home.plugins file I've backup for such situations. /home/user/.config/hildon-desktop |
| 00:03.43 | xmn | lets me instantly restore my desktop widgets |
| 00:03.54 | xmn | if thats what you were talking about |
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| 00:09.20 | untakenstupidnic | it keeps stuck on boot spontaneously, and it would often be fixed by re-plugging the battery (suggesting it is a non-fatal, mundane problem) but no one seems to know why it happens, so i have to flash it again and again and again and i'm tired of reinstalling all the stuff for some crazy problem in a random system file. |
| 00:15.39 | xmn | does it happen on a fresh flash? |
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| 00:51.38 | HtheB | Guys, is tmo down? |
| 00:52.46 | HtheB | it gives a database error |
| 00:59.26 | xmn | confirmed. Everything else seems to still be fine |
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| 05:17.33 | KotCzarny | well, thats new on tmo: |
| 05:17.36 | KotCzarny | Content Encoding Error |
| 05:17.39 | KotCzarny | The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression. |
| 05:17.43 | KotCzarny | Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem. |
| 05:18.13 | KotCzarny | xes? |
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| 05:48.13 | Maxdamantus | > MySQL Error : The table 'vb3_session' is full |
| 05:48.50 | Maxdamantus | Though I'm interested in why Firefox gets that content encoding error. |
| 05:53.37 | Maxdamantus | Oh, I see. |
| 05:53.43 | Maxdamantus | Content-Encoding: gzip^M |
| 05:53.48 | Maxdamantus | but the response is not gzip. |
| 05:55.36 | Maxdamantus | Annoying how Firefox's developer tools behaves with such errors; it just says "No headers for this request", so can't see the request or response headers. |
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| 08:44.26 | xes | KotCzarny: hi! tmo is up again |
| 08:56.17 | xmn | sweet |
| 09:10.13 | KotCzarny | thanks! |
| 09:10.14 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 09:15.53 | untakenstupidnic | what caused the problem? |
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| 09:30.23 | sixwheeledbeast | i am getting "too busy" on tmo |
| 09:32.45 | sixwheeledbeast | are you sure this bootloop isn't a faulty battery. I mean unless your doing silly things to root I wouldn't expect bootloops to occur. Maybe there is some unusual hardware fault. |
| 09:32.49 | sixwheeledbeast | ~bootloop |
| 09:32.50 | infobot | i guess bootloop is when your device has broken rootfilesystem, so during reboot it fails on some service startup or kernel module load and thus reboots. This *drains* battery! And you can't reflash to stop bootloop when battery is drained. Recharge your battery by other means before reflashing. E.g. using ~rescueOS. Or external charger or BL-5J compatible other device. |
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| 10:05.51 | xes | notice: tmo web service has been stopped while monitoring the storm in progress |
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| 10:19.37 | sixwheeledbeast | ddos? |
| 10:20.28 | sixwheeledbeast | oh maybe broken db? from posts above |
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| 10:27.15 | xes | nope. storm of requests. At the moment is again active only with https |
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| 10:45.35 | KotCzarny | https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/ |
| 10:45.36 | KotCzarny | nice |
| 10:49.06 | bencoh | "Dear Frog, This Water Is Now Boiling" <3 |
| 11:10.53 | warfare | KotCzarny: sneak.berlin doesn't understand OCSP. https://blog.jacopo.io/en/post/apple-ocsp/ has a more detailed writeup. |
| 11:11.37 | KotCzarny | warfare: idea is its not about ocsp, its about sending it unencrypted, which allows spying by 3rd parties |
| 11:12.07 | warfare | ocsp has to be unencrypted because using a tls connection would require another ocsp request. |
| 11:12.58 | KotCzarny | which essentially makes it privacy hole |
| 11:15.50 | warfare | Well, you could add some fake ocsp requests, but all in all, you have to start somewhere ;) |
| 11:27.14 | Maxdamantus | Presumably you could just expect the OCSP server to include a stapled OCSP response. |
| 11:28.44 | Maxdamantus | I suspect it's not encrypted because there are plenty of other ways of finding that information. |
| 11:29.38 | Maxdamantus | eg, most obviously SNI, but afaik the server certificate itself is sent unencrypted when establishing a TLS connection. |
| 11:32.36 | Maxdamantus | I can confirm that at least by default by looking at `strace openssl s_client -connect google.com:443` |
| 11:42.21 | bencoh | I'm not certain OCSP here refers only to OCSP as we know it in the ssl/tls context |
| 11:43.14 | bencoh | as in, they use it to check dev/app certs/sigs as well |
| 11:43.48 | bencoh | there is basically no reason to send those requests as plaintext |
| 12:11.18 | warfare | There is. TLS overhead time- and cpuwise. And actually I don't care if my os checks every now and then (because the result is cached) if certain developer certificates are still valid. |
| 12:12.02 | warfare | Also, you can't use existing OCSP implementations and would have to roll your own. And thats always a bad idea with anything crypto related. |
| 12:38.04 | bencoh | for this part they probably 1. implemented by themselves already 2. probably just relay the http(s) request to another layer |
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| 21:51.15 | peterleinchen | xes, thanks for fixing TMO |
| 21:51.59 | peterleinchen | (once more) |
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