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| 05:58.52 | brolin_empey | sixwheeledbeast: The HDD has to always be spinning because I need the non-volatile memory of the computer to always be accessible. If an HDD is always running then it will fail, maybe like this: |
| 05:58.52 | brolin_empey | http://brolin.be/graphics/20191206_215725_HDD_dying_after_running_almost_continuously_for_8_years.mp4 |
| 06:32.44 | Maxdamantus | If you're just looking for storage, the harddrives will still very likely be cheaper. |
| 06:32.56 | Maxdamantus | Just buy two of them for reliability. |
| 06:33.20 | KotCzarny | hdds are also way better for long time storage |
| 06:35.56 | Maxdamantus | HDDs seem to be around NZ$50 per TB while HDDs seem to be around NZ$200 per TB. |
| 06:36.02 | Maxdamantus | er |
| 06:36.07 | Maxdamantus | HDDs seem to be around NZ$50 per TB while SSDs seem to be around NZ$200 per TB. |
| 06:37.28 | brolin_empey | I stopped buying HDDs but I stopped buying larger than 2.5-inch HDDs before I stopped buying HDDs completely. |
| 06:39.17 | brolin_empey | I have some 3.5-inch HDDs that still work but are useless because I use devices that can only use 2.5-inch or smaller drives. |
| 06:40.21 | Maxdamantus | Like laptops? |
| 06:40.35 | Maxdamantus | I wouldn't bother putting anything other than an SSD in a laptop nowadays. |
| 06:41.14 | Maxdamantus | Last I checked, capacity of 2.5" HDDs was also fairly limited anyway. |
| 06:42.05 | sixwheeledbeast | 2.5 have a much higher failure rate, also in portable devices you more likely to lose data from damage moving stuff around. You also have SMR issue |
| 06:44.58 | KotCzarny | limited? i have 2tb ssd in my lappy |
| 06:45.08 | KotCzarny | as a storage drive |
| 06:45.43 | KotCzarny | because tlc and stuff, but still |
| 06:45.53 | Maxdamantus | HDD size is limited. There aren't many 2.5" HDDs bigger than 2 TB. |
| 06:46.11 | KotCzarny | there will be |
| 06:46.21 | KotCzarny | 96layers 3d nands are coming |
| 06:46.29 | Maxdamantus | *HDD* |
| 06:46.32 | Maxdamantus | Not SSD. |
| 06:46.53 | sunshavi | Space |
| 06:47.04 | KotCzarny | still, flash will die much faster than magnetic spindles |
| 06:47.11 | sixwheeledbeast | also things like HAMR |
| 06:48.20 | sixwheeledbeast | from a risk of failure POV I would archive with spinning and use SSD in portables myself. |
| 06:48.27 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 06:48.41 | KotCzarny | silicon rots |
| 06:49.53 | sixwheeledbeast | You can easily knock your laptop and when you have a little damage in there you can start to loose blocks from the bits moving about. |
| 06:50.59 | KotCzarny | 2.5" 4tb 5400rpm seagate is ~200usd |
| 06:52.22 | KotCzarny | 5 platters inside 2.5", madness, hehe |
| 06:53.50 | KotCzarny | but it's quite green driver, only ~2W of active power |
| 06:54.09 | KotCzarny | and ~0.85-1.3W idle |
| 06:56.25 | KotCzarny | cant find which *MR it's using |
| 07:05.55 | sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: buy a STDR4000100 and rip the case off + half price. |
| 07:06.13 | sixwheeledbeast | s/+/=/ |
| 07:06.36 | KotCzarny | well it was a price for ST4000LM024 |
| 07:07.21 | KotCzarny | and i strongly suspect much inferior writing technology |
| 07:09.28 | KotCzarny | also, some usb attached drives dont have sata connector inside |
| 07:10.56 | sixwheeledbeast | https://www.servethehome.com/seagate-4tb-2-5-sata-hdd-124-get-ready-density/ |
| 07:25.17 | KotCzarny | that's good |
| 07:25.24 | KotCzarny | erm, wrong chan |
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