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| 09:39.06 | AStorm | hello, is this alive after 12 years? how can I upgrade the old n810 still? |
| 09:39.23 | AStorm | dusted it off and it still... somewhat works |
| 09:39.43 | AStorm | needs an SD card in the miniSD adapter though, and I cannot find one right now |
| 09:44.16 | AStorm | it has OS 2008 ancient history on it |
| 09:45.51 | sixwheeledbeast | I know very little about the n810 but someone may do |
| 09:45.53 | AStorm | got the flasher and stuff, but is there anything actually new for this ancient hardware |
| 09:46.37 | AStorm | of course tablets-dev.nokia.com is long gone |
| 09:47.33 | AStorm | repository seems to end in 2013 |
| 09:48.01 | AStorm | original catalogue is gone too |
| 09:48.20 | AStorm | but repository.maemo.org still exists |
| 09:48.58 | AStorm | I'll check what's on it, chinook, gregale, diablo or fremantle |
| 09:49.12 | sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't think so. lots of infra was broken when microsoft took over nokia the community have kept what they could working |
| 09:49.44 | bencoh | n810 most probably runs diablo |
| 09:49.53 | sixwheeledbeast | ~n810 |
| 09:50.08 | bencoh | as for repository.maemo.org, it doesn't host any of the "base" repositories |
| 09:50.11 | sixwheeledbeast | diablo sounds right |
| 09:50.13 | bencoh | (apart from sdk stuff) |
| 09:50.42 | bencoh | unfortunately I never mirrored diablo, but afair a few maemo members did back then |
| 09:51.15 | AStorm | there's this ancient history: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/diablo/ |
| 09:51.29 | AStorm | of course if mer or anything else is more recommended for this old hardware, I'm game |
| 09:51.36 | AStorm | the device has the alternate custom initramfs |
| 09:51.44 | AStorm | or was it bootloader |
| 09:51.46 | AStorm | one with a menu |
| 09:52.01 | bencoh | mer won't run there |
| 09:52.22 | bencoh | 128MB ram will probably be short for maemo-leste as well |
| 09:52.58 | bencoh | although I wonder how short |
| 09:53.06 | sixwheeledbeast | pmOS ? |
| 09:53.16 | bencoh | maybe pmOS yeah :) |
| 09:53.26 | AStorm | looks like chinook is on it, at least that's what set in repositories |
| 09:53.28 | bencoh | with some really lightweight wm |
| 09:53.49 | bencoh | AStorm: I'd backup everything I could first |
| 09:53.50 | AStorm | pmOS would be fine if it fits |
| 09:53.59 | sixwheeledbeast | anyway to make leste lighter? |
| 09:54.05 | AStorm | oh it is backed up all right somewhere, can back it up more |
| 09:54.19 | bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: how much does leste actually take at boot? |
| 09:54.28 | bencoh | (after a fresh boot I mean) |
| 09:54.42 | AStorm | so, flasher can do full backup right? |
| 09:55.29 | bencoh | full as in "drop full mmc/nand image here and I'll flash it back"? doubt it, but dunno |
| 09:55.35 | sixwheeledbeast | no idea |
| 09:55.37 | bencoh | well, it can flash alright |
| 09:55.49 | bencoh | but I doubt there is an easy way to make such an image |
| 09:58.45 | AStorm | mmm I think it either needs a cable or initramfs, let's see a reboot |
| 09:58.52 | AStorm | I even have Opera 10.1 beta on it :3 |
| 09:59.34 | AStorm | ha I still remember the magic key combo |
| 10:03.55 | AStorm | wow I have mer on this too |
| 10:04.53 | AStorm | however the standard cable I have is not compatible with flasher - I have the nokia cable but elsewhere |
| 10:18.08 | sixwheeledbeast | Probably just a charging cable with the data pins shorted |
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| 10:25.10 | AStorm | anyway flasher cannot make a backup, I'll have to get here some Linux |
| 10:26.48 | AStorm | hmm the device is "seen" but not by flasher |
| 10:27.35 | AStorm | looks like Nokia BB5 ADL loader |
| 10:59.13 | sicelo | is it armhf/armv7? if not, pmOS won't work |
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| 11:08.48 | AStorm | it can run armv7 |
| 11:09.04 | AStorm | it's TI OMAP 2xxx some number |
| 11:09.36 | AStorm | TI OMAP 2420 specifically, 128 MB ram |
| 11:11.58 | AStorm | oof, I think it's armv6 with Thumb 2 |
| 11:12.24 | AStorm | as in ARM1136 or something with PowerVR |
| 11:14.28 | AStorm | it does have hard fpu. |
| 11:14.40 | AStorm | so it's armhf I suppose |
| 11:15.09 | AStorm | however, it's armv6 with hard fpu, not armv7; it does not support thumb 2 |
| 11:15.14 | sicelo | anyway isn't like pmOS is any efficient. it just should be lighter than Leste because it doesn't force you to use hildon ... for that RAM, I suppose only choice would be something like i3 (unless you're lucky xfce works) |
| 11:15.30 | AStorm | old matchbox perhaps, like mer |
| 11:15.49 | sicelo | iirc alpine (on which pmOS is based) dropped armv6 long ago |
| 11:16.02 | AStorm | I could always gentoo it up |
| 11:16.30 | AStorm | the big trick is kernel and powervr mbx lite driver |
| 11:16.40 | AStorm | potentially GPS driver too |
| 11:16.55 | sicelo | or debian (devuan) :) |
| 11:17.54 | AStorm | the CPU is supported even in linux 5 |
| 11:18.04 | sicelo | https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Unsupported_Devices |
| 11:20.08 | AStorm | yeah I think OMAP 2420 might be supported enough as it's v6 hardfp |
| 11:21.37 | AStorm | albeit it's faster with as little fp as possible |
| 11:50.33 | AStorm | I think the setup for Nokia N9 would work |
| 11:51.12 | AStorm | that one had OMAP 3630 |
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| 22:57.06 | Oksana | Stellarium! https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-04-02/april-sky-guide-super-pink-moon-and-cosmic-ladder-of-planets/12102992 Nice to see open-source software being featured so in a news article. |
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