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| 00:25.13 | brolin_empey | The automagically cloned mSATA SSD boots and seems to work but I booted it on a Core 2 tower computer to test because I cannot properly install the mSATA drive in the Dell PowerEdge 2950 server computer until I receive the 2.5-inch SATA drive cases for mSATA drives. |
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| 01:17.00 | Oksanaa | Where is the default date 1/1/2009 stored? Because I am quite tired of having to scroll to 2020 every time the battery discharges to beyond ability to remember date and time. |
| 01:17.22 | luke-jr | lol |
| 01:17.39 | Oksanaa | And yes, I should replace the tiny round battery - it's all green, rusty and nasty, by now. |
| 01:17.52 | luke-jr | my 10 year old just got the interest to fiddle with my old Zaurus SL-C760 ;) |
| 01:20.40 | Oksanaa | Nice. My 8yo brother is so frustrated by Linux monopoly at our home that he is demanding a Windows computer. He already has an iPad. And he sees lots of Windows computers and iPads at school. |
| 01:21.38 | Oksanaa | I would like to figure out which open-source operating system is even more radical than Linux. Bonus points if it can run Hildon desktop. |
| 01:21.51 | Oksanaa | Gentoo? Darwin? |
| 01:30.12 | brolin_empey | Oksanaa: Gentoo is a GNU+Linux distribution. ;-) |
| 01:31.00 | Oksanaa | Yes, I know. Too similar to Debian, I guess? Though, compiling software from source code has its own nice points. |
| 01:31.22 | Oksanaa | But something like micro-kernel would be nice. |
| 01:31.42 | brolin_empey | MenuetOS or KolibriOS? FreeDOS? QNX? NixOS? |
| 01:32.32 | brolin_empey | eComStation? |
| 01:34.02 | Oksanaa | MenuetOS is monolithic kernel, and 64bit is closed-source. |
| 01:34.50 | brolin_empey | Linux is a monolithic kernel too but evolved to support loadable kernel modules. |
| 01:35.08 | brolin_empey | FreeBSD or maybe NetBSD? |
| 01:35.18 | Oksanaa | KolibriOS is monolithic as well, and I don't see whether it is available for 64bit. |
| 01:36.20 | brolin_empey | OpenSolaris or one of its variants or derivatives? |
| 01:37.05 | brolin_empey | QNX uses a microkernel. |
| 01:37.38 | brolin_empey | I would not say that Gentoo is similar to Debian. |
| 01:37.51 | Oksanaa | Fuchsia, a grand-child of Haiku, is interesting. |
| 01:38.40 | brolin_empey | Gentoo portage is modelled after FreeBSD ports. |
| 01:40.07 | Oksanaa | OpenSolaris is discontinued, OSDyson is one of its derivatives. |
| 01:41.01 | brolin_empey | Maemo is discontinued too. |
| 01:42.00 | Oksanaa | See https://www.osdyson.org/projects/dyson/wiki |
| 01:43.55 | brolin_empey | A person born in around 2012, when Windows 8 was released, may be so young that they have not actually used the original Windows series, which ended with Windows Me (Windows 4.90) in 2000, as opposed to the Windows NT series. |
| 01:46.49 | Oksanaa | Windows Me... Don't remember. I have used Windows XP, ages ago. Windows 2000, before that. Don't remember Windows Me. |
| 01:49.29 | brolin_empey | Microsoft Windows has three series or families, not only Windows NT. The original Windows series was current from 1985 to 2000 inclusive and was only released for x86. The Windows NT series was first released in 1993, is still current, and has always been released for multiple architectures in addition to x86. The Windows CE series was first released in⦠around 1996? and has also always been released for multiple architectures including x86 but seems to |
| 01:49.29 | brolin_empey | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.47 | brolin_empey | Windows XP and Windows 2000 are both marketing names for versions of Windows NT 5.x . Microsoft decided to stop using Windows NT as a marketing name during the development of Windows NT 5.0, which was marketed as Windows 2000 for the final release but originally used the name Windows NT 5.0 during development. |
| 01:57.44 | brolin_empey | I believe that Microsoft was still using the name Windows NT 5.0 in 1998. The final release (RTM) was as Windows 2000 in 1999 December with general availability/retail release on 2000â02â17. |
| 02:01.55 | brolin_empey | Confusingly, the successor to Windows 98 is Windows Me, not Windows 2000, which is the successor to Windows NT 4.0 . |
| 02:12.12 | brolin_empey | â64-bitâ is not a specific architecture. Intel tried to replace x86-32 AKA IA-32 with Itanium AKA IA-64, which was a commercial failure so Intel ended up creating their own implementation of what became known as x86-64, which was originally created by AMD as the natural evolution of the x86 architecture from 32 to 64 bits. |
| 02:20.20 | brolin_empey | 64-bit Windows XP was originally Windows XP for Itanium in 2001 until Windows XP for x86-64 shipped in 2005 but Windows XP for x86-64 is based on Windows Server 2003 and is only Windows XP Service Pack 2 even though Service Pack 3 is the final service pack for Windows XP, which means that something that requires Windows XP Service Pack 3 is not compatible with Windows XP for x86-64. If I recall correctly, Windows XP Service Pack 3 was released only for x86- |
| 02:20.20 | brolin_empey | 32. |
| 02:29.57 | brolin_empey | Mac OS X running on a non-Intel x86 CPU usually implies a Hackintosh because Apple uses only the Intel x86 platform for publicly released products. |
| 02:39.53 | brolin_empey | APT on Debian can be used to build a package from source. You do not need to use Gentoo nor a similar distribution (SourceMage?) if you often want to build packages from source by yourself instead of using packages built by someone else. |
| 02:46.22 | Oksanaa | Sure, it is possible. And on Gentoo it might be possible to install a pre-compiled package, instead of compiling it from source code? |
| 02:49.31 | brolin_empey | I stopped using Gentoo in 2008 because I prefer Debian-based distributions but, at least as of 2008, Gentoo portage did contain some prebuilt packages, yes. |
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| 03:04.42 | luke-jr | yes |
| 03:04.54 | luke-jr | but only if it matches your desired build config |
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