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| 08:29.03 | ceene | hi guys |
| 08:29.04 | ceene | how you doing? |
| 08:29.38 | KotCzarny | autumn sickness |
| 08:29.55 | ceene | that's strange because it's winter already |
| 08:32.06 | sicelo | by the way, some might be interested in https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-eleventh-update-january-2020.html |
| 08:32.44 | ceene | i was thinking of installing that in one of my n900, with the idea of having an uptodate kernel in which to install "modern" ham radio software |
| 08:33.04 | ceene | i say "modern" because ham radio software for linux is everything but modern |
| 08:33.10 | sicelo | you have nothing to lose :) |
| 08:33.14 | ceene | xastir has the most outdated interface I've ever seen |
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| 08:35.16 | ceene | also, I think the sdcard in which I have easydebian installed is failing |
| 08:35.26 | ceene | when I try to do somethings with it, the phone suddenly reboots (kernel panic?) |
| 08:35.36 | ceene | IIRC I also have there two swap partitions |
| 08:36.21 | ceene | does audio input & output work on leste, via headset? |
| 08:37.32 | sicelo | i believe so, yes. but you'll have to do it via alsamixer, etc. |
| 08:38.16 | ceene | i'll give it a try then |
| 08:38.57 | ceene | by the way, maybe you guys know how to solve an issue I'm having with a Zynq based board |
| 08:39.19 | ceene | Linux fails detecting an SPI memory flash that is correctly detected by u-boot. u-boot says: SF: Detected n25q128a13 with page size 256 Bytes, erase size 4 KiB, total 16 MiB; while Linux reports: m25p80 spi0.0: unrecognized JEDEC id bytes: 00 00 00 00 00 00 |
| 08:39.22 | ceene | Does u-boot do something extremely clever that Linux does not? |
| 08:41.18 | ceene | the only gue that has answered me about this on #linux is someone who doesn't know what u-boot is |
| 08:41.29 | ceene | so I think i'm on my own :D |
| 08:41.38 | ceene | s/gue/guy/ |
| 08:42.46 | KotCzarny | ceene: spi driver has a hardcoded data about known flash |
| 08:42.50 | KotCzarny | so just find/add |
| 08:43.11 | KotCzarny | but id being all 0 might mean something else is wrong |
| 08:43.17 | ceene | yep, the problem is that this thing seems to be reading all 00 bytes, so it doesn't find it in the database |
| 08:43.29 | ceene | this chip memory is already in the driver, it should work |
| 08:43.39 | ceene | i have similar boards with the same chip that are getting recognized just fine |
| 08:43.44 | KotCzarny | wrong spi config then in linux? |
| 08:44.06 | ceene | i don't know, the device tree is the same in both linux and u-boot |
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| 14:37.52 | badcloud_ | Any reason the "Alarm tone" button is greyed? |
| 14:38.59 | badcloud_ | Also, I was wondering if there is a lock screen that shows sms/email/im content |
| 14:53.21 | sicelo | interesting. that's the first thing i disable on Android :p |
| 14:53.36 | badcloud_ | sicelo haha |
| 14:53.50 | KotCzarny | alarms? but they are useful :) |
| 14:54.52 | sicelo | the lock screen notifications |
| 14:54.58 | KotCzarny | i know, just kidding |
| 14:56.01 | sicelo | otoh, N900 is still my main device .. so even alarms, music, etc. - all happens on N900 |
| 14:56.36 | KotCzarny | if i could only run some of the android apps on it easily.. |
| 15:19.09 | sicelo | which ones do you use/need most KotCzarny? |
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| 15:26.51 | KotCzarny | city bicycles, bank, steam guard |
| 15:35.37 | KotCzarny | netflix is nice too |
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| 17:38.27 | badcloud_ | What's the difference between modrana and modrana-qml? Aside from the name :) |
| 17:41.16 | KotCzarny | libraries compiled against? |
| 17:46.41 | sicelo | iirc it's the UI in use. without QML, it uses GTK |
| 17:53.41 | badcloud_ | Makes sense |
| 17:58.22 | badcloud_ | I'm still in the dark about not being able to change the alarm tone |
| 17:59.08 | badcloud_ | I successfully installed thumb |
| 18:00.01 | sicelo | alarm tone? |
| 18:00.07 | badcloud_ | Yes |
| 18:00.20 | badcloud_ | The button is greyed out |
| 18:01.22 | badcloud_ | In maemo, not modrana |
| 18:02.34 | sicelo | i think you're trying to set the tone while setting an alarm? i guess someone wanted to implement different alarm ringtones :) |
| 18:02.43 | sicelo | Just do it in Clock > Alarm Settings |
| 18:03.17 | sicelo | s/different /per-/ |
| 18:03.43 | badcloud_ | Thanks, that's what I missed :P |
| 18:05.56 | sicelo | yw |
| 18:08.07 | badcloud_ | Is there mp-fremantle-community-pr for thumb? |
| 18:08.21 | KotCzarny | how did you install thumb? |
| 18:09.03 | badcloud_ | I tried according to the wiki |
| 18:09.11 | badcloud_ | With the .install file |
| 18:09.15 | KotCzarny | ok |
| 18:09.31 | badcloud_ | But in the end I had to apt-get upgrade |
| 18:10.48 | sicelo | what is your output for `apt-cache policy mp-fremantle-community-pr` |
| 18:10.58 | badcloud_ | Sec |
| 18:14.45 | badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/s7bCEUpU |
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| 18:15.57 | sicelo | haha, it says none installed |
| 18:16.32 | sicelo | i'd say re-do the steps. you obviously should have backups of important stuff in case things go south |
| 18:17.52 | KotCzarny | i bet on some dependency failed |
| 18:18.06 | KotCzarny | or you didnt wait for package manager to process installation properly |
| 18:18.34 | badcloud_ | It gave me an error regarding the thumb enabler |
| 18:19.13 | badcloud_ | So, start from scratch? |
| 18:19.24 | sicelo | so do it again then, and let us know what error it gives you |
| 18:19.29 | badcloud_ | Flash? |
| 18:19.35 | KotCzarny | try without at first |
| 18:22.05 | badcloud_ | package 'community-ssu-enabler' not found |
| 18:22.23 | badcloud_ | That's also what I got before |
| 18:23.42 | KotCzarny | https://talk.maemo.org/archive/index.php/t-72052.html |
| 18:23.46 | KotCzarny | might be related |
| 18:24.29 | KotCzarny | what are your repos? |
| 18:25.16 | badcloud_ | Apt-get found it, I'm trying that route |
| 18:25.49 | sicelo | at least :) |
| 18:27.34 | badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/yKCeD8tM |
| 18:28.36 | badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/aWHbNiiD |
| 18:28.38 | sicelo | you don't have the Thumb repos there |
| 18:28.50 | sicelo | how are you installing Thumb? |
| 18:29.24 | sicelo | here's the .install file for Thumb |
| 18:33.02 | badcloud_ | What about: deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free? |
| 18:35.15 | badcloud_ | sicelo where's the .install file? |
| 18:35.19 | sicelo | ah, i didn't see your 2nd paste |
| 18:35.29 | sicelo | you have this in two separate files? |
| 18:35.38 | badcloud_ | yes |
| 18:36.31 | sicelo | how did that happen? |
| 18:36.38 | sicelo | checks on his N900 |
| 18:37.13 | badcloud_ | Hmm, the hildon list file was written by the .install file |
| 18:37.24 | badcloud_ | the source list updated by me |
| 18:37.54 | sicelo | you generally shouldn't do that. |
| 18:38.05 | badcloud_ | I see |
| 18:38.24 | badcloud_ | What do yours look like? |
| 18:38.25 | KotCzarny | which basically means, backup your repos, then use only basic ones + the one from installer |
| 18:38.40 | KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos |
| 18:38.40 | infobot | rumour has it, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories |
| 18:38.47 | sicelo | you can remove everything from the sources.list file, and just open the file i linked above ... it will update the repos accordingly |
| 18:39.47 | badcloud_ | sicelo can't see the link |
| 18:40.28 | sicelo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.58 | badcloud_ | That's the one I used |
| 18:41.52 | sicelo | :) |
| 18:41.55 | badcloud_ | so just scrap the sources.list? |
| 18:43.12 | sicelo | (1) empty everything in sources.list, (2) open this file on N900 using the browser - it will then 'take' over, open Application Manager, etc. |
| 18:43.29 | sicelo | you don't have to manually add the repositories anywhere |
| 18:43.36 | KotCzarny | doesnt app manager have own repo list/ |
| 18:44.09 | badcloud_ | What about the hildon-application-manager.list file? |
| 18:44.20 | KotCzarny | thats what im talking about |
| 18:45.08 | sicelo | leave the hildon-application-manager.list file alone. use the .install file above |
| 18:45.36 | sicelo | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb#Installation <<- |
| 18:45.42 | badcloud_ | Ok |
| 18:45.56 | badcloud_ | That's the wiki I used |
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| 18:48.44 | badcloud_ | Gave me the same error, package 'community-ssu-enablr' not found |
| 18:48.53 | badcloud_ | enabler |
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| 18:49.51 | sicelo | ok |
| 18:51.02 | sicelo | check if hildon-application-manager.list has deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free perhaps now |
| 18:53.24 | sicelo | btw, did it open the Application Manager when you clicked the .install file? |
| 18:53.45 | badcloud_ | deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free |
| 18:53.54 | badcloud_ | Whoops, mistake |
| 18:53.59 | badcloud_ | Hold on |
| 18:54.48 | badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/dTRsEDwq |
| 18:55.01 | badcloud_ | Looks like I have double community-testing |
| 18:55.34 | sicelo | at least the thumb repo is there now |
| 18:56.28 | badcloud_ | And, yes. HAM opened when opening the .install file |
| 18:57.06 | sicelo | hope you didn't close HAM afterwards :) |
| 18:57.17 | badcloud_ | Of course not... |
| 18:57.33 | sicelo | any errors yet? |
| 18:58.12 | badcloud_ | package 'community-ssu-enabler' not found |
| 18:58.44 | badcloud_ | I already installed that package via apt, seems like I'm running testing now |
| 18:58.48 | sicelo | you can try installing it in apt |
| 18:58.51 | sicelo | ah |
| 18:59.16 | KotCzarny | i think ham does some additional mumbo-jumbo |
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| 19:00.54 | badcloud_ | 81 packages being updated via apt now |
| 19:03.47 | badcloud_ | Worst case I'll just reflash and try again... |
| 19:07.50 | sicelo | it should be fine. i've installed CSSU using apt with no ill-effect |
| 19:10.07 | badcloud_ | :) |
| 19:10.30 | badcloud_ | How do you install u-boot alongside cssu? |
| 19:12.05 | sicelo | like any other package |
| 19:12.40 | badcloud_ | Ok |
| 19:12.52 | badcloud_ | For some reason I remember them clashing |
| 19:14.15 | sicelo | the only thing you need to be careful about is - since you'll be using -thumb, immediately after installing uboot, be sure to set Kernel Power to be the default kernel. |
| 19:14.25 | sicelo | do this before rebooting the device |
| 19:16.29 | sicelo | reason - -thumb can't boot on the vanilla N900 kernel, which uboot defaults to |
| 19:17.54 | sicelo | https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1150740&postcount=1 has all the info you need |
| 19:18.21 | badcloud_ | Done! |
| 19:19.10 | badcloud_ | Now to test things out... |
| 19:24.56 | badcloud_ | u-boot-flasher: Depends: kernel-modules |
| 19:26.13 | badcloud_ | apt-get install kernel-modules: kernel-cssu-modules instead of kernel-modules |
| 19:28.44 | sicelo | that's ok. |
| 19:31.22 | badcloud_ | Doesn't seem like uboot installed |
| 19:32.02 | sicelo | if it installed, you should have seen it flashing a kernel - same as when you flash on pc |
| 19:32.24 | badcloud_ | That's it, I didn't see that |
| 19:32.24 | sicelo | iirc it should even popup a dialog warning you about kernel install |
| 19:32.44 | badcloud_ | I remember that too, it didn't do that |
| 19:34.19 | sicelo | you can just reinstall - u-boot-tools, uboot-flasher, kernel-cssu-bootimg |
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| 19:39.20 | badcloud_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.32 | sicelo | seems you're missing a repo |
| 19:46.01 | badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/Tg7MjTaK |
| 19:46.19 | badcloud_ | probably extras-devel |
| 19:48.19 | sicelo | not devel |
| 19:48.41 | sicelo | you're missing the standard repos |
| 19:48.47 | sicelo | ~maemo-repos |
| 19:48.47 | infobot | from memory, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories |
| 19:49.42 | sicelo | i use muarf mirrors |
| 19:53.36 | badcloud_ | Ok, I'll add them to the hildon list |
| 20:03.47 | badcloud_ | Added the two repos to sources.list |
| 20:04.00 | badcloud_ | Still got same error from at-get |
| 20:04.03 | badcloud_ | apt |
| 20:04.14 | KotCzarny | afair, every time you run ham it will nuke your sources.list |
| 20:04.16 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:04.33 | badcloud_ | I see |
| 20:04.37 | sicelo | you should add repos in HAM, not sources.list, and not even hildon-whatwhat.list |
| 20:07.44 | sicelo | there's a .install file for muarf - http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/muarf_all.install |
| 20:08.39 | badcloud_ | Oh thank god, I was afraid I'd have to type it all in |
| 20:12.05 | badcloud_ | Still getting same error |
| 20:13.15 | badcloud_ | Holy crap... |
| 20:13.38 | sicelo | show u your hildon.list |
| 20:14.55 | badcloud_ | https://pastebin.com/DLFZfPw9 |
| 20:15.54 | badcloud_ | I remember that one repo needs to be disabled when running thumb, right? |
| 20:16.51 | sicelo | same error? menaing "Broken package: u-boot-flasher: Depends: kernel-modules" ? |
| 20:16.59 | badcloud_ | Yep |
| 20:17.51 | sicelo | sounds like an unfinished catalog refresh. the package is definitely available |
| 20:18.11 | sicelo | http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/k/kernel/ |
| 20:18.32 | KotCzarny | didnt you tell him to install power-kernel? |
| 20:18.33 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:18.39 | badcloud_ | yup |
| 20:19.23 | sicelo | KotCzarny: power-kernel installs automatically for thumb. it's a requirement |
| 20:19.40 | KotCzarny | maybe modules wont suck kernel as a dep |
| 20:20.19 | sicelo | you're installing using apt or HAM? |
| 20:21.28 | badcloud_ | tried via apt, I can't see the packages in HAM |
| 20:22.23 | sicelo | apt-get update && apt-get install u-boot-tools uboot-flasher kernel-cssu-bootimg |
| 20:22.46 | badcloud_ | That's what I did, no go |
| 20:23.52 | sicelo | sounds impossible (to me) |
| 20:24.09 | badcloud_ | I''l try again |
| 20:24.20 | sicelo | installs u-boot on thumb N900 |
| 20:25.05 | badcloud_ | Boohoo |
| 20:25.21 | badcloud_ | How do I tell if I'm running thunb? |
| 20:26.11 | sicelo | Control Panel > General > About Community CSSU |
| 20:26.21 | badcloud_ | Says testing |
| 20:26.45 | sicelo | yes, under version, should end with `+thumb0` |
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| 20:27.03 | badcloud_ | Tmaemo12 |
| 20:27.21 | sicelo | then you're not on thumb yet |
| 20:27.57 | sicelo | anyway, u-boot issue is unrelated to thumb |
| 20:29.05 | sicelo | maybe just reflash and start from scratch if that's easier :) |
| 20:29.14 | badcloud_ | Maybe |
| 20:29.16 | sicelo | at least not you know what repos you need, etc. |
| 20:29.21 | sicelo | s/not/now/ |
| 20:34.31 | badcloud_ | I'm gonna make one last desperate try and remove community-ssu-enabler and then reinstall |
| 20:36.00 | badcloud_ | sicelo thanks so much for the help :) |
| 20:36.50 | sicelo | yw |
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| 21:24.27 | badcloud_ | is reflashing this BEYOTSCH |
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| 21:49.57 | badcloud_ | sicelo If you're still there, I just reflashed, loaded both .install files (muarf first), still got error |
| 21:50.25 | badcloud_ | package community-ssu-enabler not found |
| 21:50.41 | KotCzarny | does the error exist on normal cssu too? |
| 21:51.00 | badcloud_ | Not sure, I'd like to install thumb |
| 21:51.15 | KotCzarny | start with normal cssu, just to be sure its not something on your side |
| 21:51.30 | badcloud_ | You mean stable or testing? |
| 21:51.42 | sicelo | testing |
| 21:51.47 | badcloud_ | Ok |
| 21:52.50 | badcloud_ | http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/community-testing-fremantle.install ? |
| 21:53.34 | badcloud_ | Do I need to remove thumb repo first? |
| 21:53.46 | sicelo | but, have you not already tried to install thumb? might be best to reflash again .. |
| 21:54.05 | badcloud_ | No, I just reflashed |
| 21:54.46 | badcloud_ | All the install file did was change hildon.list and look for community-ssu-enabler |
| 21:55.35 | sicelo | maybe go in to HAM and disable the Thumb repo then, and use that install file you linked |
| 21:57.45 | badcloud_ | the testing install file works |
| 21:58.08 | badcloud_ | is it possible to go to thumb after installing testing? |
| 21:58.37 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 21:58.56 | badcloud_ | giddyup then :) |
| 22:00.42 | badcloud_ | Pretty sure it will give me the same error when I try to install thumb |
| 22:01.31 | badcloud_ | It worked for you guys? |
| 22:01.57 | KotCzarny | it was long time ago |
| 22:02.07 | sicelo | same here ... long time :) |
| 22:02.30 | badcloud_ | :) |
| 22:02.30 | sicelo | and i won't reflash - bandwidth issues |
| 22:03.10 | badcloud_ | I see |
| 22:04.00 | badcloud_ | Are the updates dating up until 2017 only for thumb? |
| 22:05.04 | KotCzarny | testing might be newer than thumb |
| 22:05.47 | sicelo | yes, it is |
| 22:06.20 | sicelo | anyway, Maemo Fremantle has been frozen for a long time now. No one is (actively) working on CSSU anymore. |
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| 22:06.59 | badcloud_ | Yeah, I know. I can't wait til Leste has UI call support. You guys are doing god's work |
| 22:09.49 | badcloud_ | So what would be the route for switching to thumb, deleting testing's repos and then loading the install file? |
| 22:10.11 | sicelo | no need to delete testing. just go with the install file. |
| 22:10.22 | sicelo | thumb IS a version of testing :) |
| 22:12.34 | sicelo | anyway, here's my .list for comparison - http://paste.debian.net/1126025/ |
| 22:12.43 | badcloud_ | Nice |
| 22:13.24 | sicelo | you don't need the -devel and -sdk ones of course |
| 22:22.38 | badcloud_ | Hmmm, screen went blank... |
| 22:23.04 | badcloud_ | ssh session froze |
| 22:50.03 | badcloud_ | Testing installation conked |