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| 20:36.44 | Wikiwide | Tired. Nokia N900 has been bullied by our 8yo brother for a very long time. "Get an Android", "It's not a smartphone", "It cannot send SMS", "Nokia N900 is a dumb dumb", "Nokias aren't interesting", and so on. |
| 20:37.16 | KotCzarny | kids will bully over stupidest things |
| 20:37.19 | KotCzarny | nothing new |
| 20:37.47 | Wikiwide | Today morning, I have returned home from beach walk to find Nokia N900 with battery taken out. Wonder how damaged the file system may be?.. |
| 20:38.34 | Wikiwide | When questioned, he said "It wouldn't stop beeping". Considering that it was and is Silent, the only sound could have been 7 o'clock alarm. |
| 20:38.48 | KotCzarny | or ghosts |
| 20:39.11 | Wikiwide | What did he do, confuse Snooze and Stop? |
| 20:39.31 | Wikiwide | School should have taught him reading long ago. |
| 20:39.42 | KotCzarny | maybe it was afraid |
| 20:40.36 | Wikiwide | I am too tired of my sister's unrealistic jokes to even find such suggestions funny. |
| 20:40.47 | Wikiwide | I am too serious. |
| 20:41.59 | Wikiwide | And my sister's Nokia 8110 4G has got unasked for 6 o'clock alarm, at least once. Pretty sure that only our brother could have set the alarm. |
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| 22:20.57 | gry | hey KotCzarny you got kids too? |
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| 22:30.38 | brolin_empey | Is a person who is younger than the N900 qualified to opine about the N900? |
| 22:32.47 | gry | he thinks he is; the adults think they're qualified to get angry, too |
| 22:33.36 | gry | it's one of the most energy wasting reactions with the least impact on the situation |
| 22:34.32 | gry | and then a minute later the said "adult" talks nicely about how kites or butterflies or $whatever works, as if there was nothing happened with the mobile... |
| 22:35.19 | gry | have you tried doing that with your kids? scream at them for unqualified opinions about your nokia mobile, and then a minute later lead an innocent conversation. wait 5 or 15 mins for their next tease, repeat |
| 22:36.29 | gry | to be fair thats a bit offtopic here, i would be a bit more interested in ways to get pmwiki on a nokia device |
| 22:36.40 | gry | and that needs php-fastcgi, but i only have php-cgi in the packages |
| 22:36.58 | gry | and at pmwiki web site i do not see install instructions for lighttpd |
| 22:37.28 | brolin_empey | I do not have a child and do not want one. |
| 22:37.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | hey gry! |
| 22:37.47 | gry | hey DocScrutinizer05 |
| 22:37.53 | gry | long time we did not speak i believe |
| 22:38.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah |
| 22:38.30 | gry | i had this idea of making a mobile device with no screen, controlled by audio |
| 22:38.38 | gry | and my sister is getting started on it gradually |
| 22:38.57 | gry | do we have an offtopic channel somewhere which is not logged publicly? |
| 22:41.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems you already found it |
| 22:43.41 | brolin_empey | gry: Like the (apparently now discontinued) iPod Shuffle? |
| 22:45.11 | gry | I don't think I am familiar with ipod |
| 22:46.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | 'funny' enough there was a suggestion for a similar concept on neo900. To go modular with a main device that has no kbd, no display and not even much of speakers |
| 22:46.46 | luke-jr | did Neo900 ever ship?\ |
| 22:46.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol nope |
| 22:47.25 | luke-jr | is it still a project? |
| 22:47.27 | gry | ah I see where that question came from |
| 22:47.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | Neo900 never reached the number of preorders so it stalled shortly before proto_v2 |
| 22:47.56 | gry | I think neo900 ended, and I am not sure whether translating its website to other languages would have helped |
| 22:48.10 | gry | I had this idea and even cloned its website to my localhost once |
| 22:48.23 | gry | but that stopped there and then, as I was too busy with homework and relocations etc |
| 22:53.11 | gry | got a power measurement tool and it looks like nokia n900, while being a full linux computer, uses close to no power |
| 22:53.37 | Maxdamantus | Presumably the easiest way to make a screen-less mobile would be to just take the screen off an N900 or something (and obviously come up with some other cover for the exposed PCB) |
| 23:00.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | gry: don't worry, Neo900 ended because of too long time it took to find layouters and too few preorders to sustain the project |
| 23:01.04 | gry | yes i thought translating to other languages would have opened non-english preorders |
| 23:01.08 | gry | not sure how many though |
| 23:01.23 | gry | if you or someone else decide to make another device i am still willing to help with translations |
| 23:01.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | judging by email we received, asking for details in non-english language, it wouldn't have made any differemce |
| 23:02.29 | gry | ok |
| 23:02.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry nope, I'm done with running a company |
| 23:03.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas $trouble isn't done with me yet |
| 23:03.21 | gry | yep |
| 23:03.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | did you know it costs $$$$ and takes 12 months+ to *shut down* a GmbH? |
| 23:04.21 | gry | that sounds a tad painful |
| 23:04.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | not just a tad |
| 23:04.45 | gry | thats weird, do they want companies to keep going? :-/ |
| 23:05.01 | gry | i remember maemo became an eV, but i don't recall what happened from there; i think this is less pain |
| 23:06.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | the easiest way is prolly "chaper 11" |
| 23:06.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | chapter* |
| 23:06.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | in German it's "Insolvenz" |
| 23:08.28 | gry | that sounds like bankrupty style thing |
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| 23:11.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | it is |
| 23:12.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | "alas" Neo900 UH not bankrupt enough for that |
| 23:12.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | UG even |
| 23:12.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | paradox prank |
| 23:13.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm sure there are ways around that, known by lawyers which cost $$$$ again |
| 23:15.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | conclusion: never even think about running a company if you can't afford a lawyer, an accountant and a sevretary fulltime |
| 23:15.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | secretary* |
| 23:17.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | and a web designer / PR officer |
| 23:17.27 | gry | yes |
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