| 00:16.27 | sunshavi | hi guys. If I have a video with a couple of audio streams japanese and english. Is there a way of listening english when the default audio is japanese? |
| 00:20.06 | Maxdamantus | sunshavi: on mplayer/mpv, the key for switching audio streams is '#' |
| 00:20.22 | Maxdamantus | dunno what people use to play things on Maemo though. |
| 00:26.39 | sunshavi | the built-in media player is the one that get the better quality |
| 00:26.58 | sunshavi | mplayer is not that good even it recognize more formats |
| 00:27.32 | sunshavi | on my workstation mpv gives me better performance than mplayer. Has somebody compiled mpv for n900? |
| 00:27.37 | sunshavi | perhaps i could try it |
| 00:28.22 | sunshavi | mplayer is not able of playing my converted video in the best quality for n900 |
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| 01:21.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | playing videos is mainly a question of encoding/decoding (h.264(?) etc) where the hw support in N900 OMAP3 CPU is limited, of original resolution and (down)scaling. I know all this isn't exactly helpful info for you, but it may shed some light on what to look for |
| 01:23.13 | sunshavi | then i am going to find the command for reencoding it with ffmpeg an setting-up english as the default launguage. |
| 01:23.21 | sunshavi | docscrutinizer05: thanks |
| 01:24.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | stuff like mpv, mplayer etc usually(!) will do mere software decoding, while the "built-in" genuine mediaplayer uses a lib that exploits the DSP |
| 01:24.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | mafw? |
| 01:25.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ocp |
| 01:26.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~docs |
| 01:26.33 | infobot | Asterisk documentation is available at http://wiki.asterisk.org (Official Asterisk Documentation Wiki), the Voip-Info wiki at http://voip-info.org (~voip-info) or Asterisk: The Future of Telephony (~book) |
| 01:26.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh! |
| 01:27.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues #maemo.*mediaplayer |
| 01:27.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues #maemo.*player |
| 01:27.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues #maemo*player |
| 01:28.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~development |
| 01:28.20 | infobot | development is, like, http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20to%20compile%20applications%20and%20develop%20for%20the%20iPAQ |
| 01:28.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy |
| 01:28.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm an idiot |
| 01:28.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues mafw |
| 01:29.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~mafw |
| 01:29.07 | infobot | rumour has it, mafw is http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Using_Multimedia_Components/Media_Application_Framework_%28MAFW%29 |
| 01:31.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | sunshavi: ^^^ |
| 01:32.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | gstreamer is your best bet, along with players that use gstreamer plugins for playback of videos |
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| 02:20.51 | sunshavi | docscrutinizer05: thanks i am going to check it |
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| 03:27.32 | gry | why does https://maemo.org/packages/ require login? where do i browse the packages without logging in? |
| 03:29.07 | sunshavi | gry: rm the 's' from https. :) |
| 03:31.47 | gry | That works. Thank you. How do I install lighttpd on a n900? At the moment I get http://dpaste.com/2WZ2J55.txt . |
| 03:33.30 | sunshavi | sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock |
| 03:34.45 | gry | sunshavi: Thanks. |
| 03:34.49 | gry | sunshavi: "root is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." <-- Haha. Removed the "sudo". That worked. |
| 03:34.53 | gry | sunshavi: Now I have http://dpaste.com/2FHW0SB.txt |
| 03:35.33 | sunshavi | i do not remember the exact cmd probably install sudser |
| 03:35.39 | sunshavi | for getting sudo working |
| 03:35.46 | sunshavi | let me check my n900 |
| 03:36.46 | sunshavi | yes it is sudser |
| 03:37.12 | sunshavi | for now you need to know ur root pwd |
| 03:39.23 | gry | sunshavi: yes, I know my root password; how do I resolve the dependency problem in the last paste? |
| 04:19.49 | sunshavi | download manually libpcre3 |
| 04:20.09 | gry | hmm |
| 04:20.12 | sunshavi | from https//maemo.org/packages/ |
| 04:20.45 | sunshavi | and use dpkg -i libprce3xyz.deb |
| 04:20.52 | gry | this has separate downloads for separate architectures |
| 04:20.57 | gry | and i don't know my architecture |
| 04:21.01 | sunshavi | armel |
| 04:21.19 | sunshavi | and also freemantle |
| 04:21.25 | gry | Fremantle SDK free armellibpcre3 6.7-1osso1+r1 |
| 04:21.28 | gry | this is ok? |
| 04:21.29 | sunshavi | the last one was just in case |
| 04:21.37 | sunshavi | i guess. yes |
| 04:22.22 | gry | "-sh: wget: not found" excellent.. what package is that, please, if you remember? o_O |
| 04:24.18 | sunshavi | let me check |
| 04:25.15 | sunshavi | rc wget 1.10.2-2osso3 retrieves files from the web |
| 04:25.15 | sunshavi | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.25 | sunshavi | the name is wget |
| 04:27.08 | gry | ok, thanks so much |
| 04:30.03 | gry | lighttpd is installing now; thanks for your help, sunshavi |
| 04:31.50 | sunshavi | yw |
| 04:32.00 | gry | i may also need php, but 'apt-cache search php' returned no relevant results as i can see |
| 04:32.14 | gry | http://dpaste.com/0R3RQHN.txt |
| 04:33.36 | gry | maybe i should add extras-devel, http://maemo.org/packages/view/php5/ |
| 04:34.25 | sunshavi | now you know. You can install it manually. If not there compile it |
| 04:34.41 | gry | ok, thanks |
| 04:35.34 | sunshavi | at the right sido on http://maemo.org/packages there is info about the last compiled packages. People still compile some maemo packages |
| 04:37.22 | sunshavi | s/sido/side/ |
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| 07:01.50 | brolin_empey | sixwheeledbeast: I realise that âBIOSâ is commonly (mis)used to mean â(motherboard) firmwareâ even though the IBM PC/AT compatible BIOS seems to have been largely replaced by the (u)EFI in the x86 computer market but I thought that an Intel x86 platform motherboard, at least a desktop/workstation/server/notebook one, that has a literal BIOS as opposed to EFI is necessarily old because apparently all COTS motherboards use only EFI, not BIOS, beginning |
| 07:01.50 | brolin_empey | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:05.05 | brolin_empey | By âIntel x86 platform motherboardâ I mean all brands of motherboards that use an x86 platform from Intel, not only Intel brand of motherboards. |
| 07:12.29 | brolin_empey | I have not been following recent developments in the AMD x86 market but I guess that somewhat recent motherboards for an AMD x86 platform are the same as somewhat recent motherboards for an Intel x86 platform in that most if not all motherboards now use EFI instead of BIOS. Is there any Ryzen era or Socket AM3 or newer (Socket AM4) motherboard that still uses BIOS instead of EFI? |
| 07:25.49 | KotCzarny | sunshavi: if all you need is changing/removing audio track, avconv/ffmpeg will re-mux the file without re-encoding (much faster) |
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| 11:04.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | sudser is BS. use `root` |
| 11:07.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock strongly deprecated, you just wait until apt-worker did its thing |
| 11:07.29 | KotCzarny | you mean 'discouraged' |
| 11:08.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I mean PFUIBAH! |
| 11:12.27 | bencoh | sunshavi: hmm, I wrote a gstreamer-based video player that allows cycling through audio track as well |
| 11:12.46 | bencoh | (and it benefits from hardware video decoding as well, since it's gstreamer-based) |
| 11:13.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's known in olden times HAM started apt-worker backend which locked the dpkg database for up to 1Ã minutes after closing HAM. Fix: get speedyham/cssu and don't use HAM at all when you want to use apt/dpkg |
| 11:13.35 | bencoh | I have never released it though ... if you want to try it: http://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/gstkplay |
| 11:13.45 | bencoh | (press # to cycle through audio) |
| 11:13.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi bencoh |
| 11:13.59 | bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: hey there :) |
| 11:14.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | apropos: `root` is an alias for gainroot |
| 11:15.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | which still is the only one of two supported ways to gain root, ssh root@localhost being the other one |
| 11:16.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc sudser fubars your system |
| 11:18.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | by fubar I mean: reflash to fix, uninstall won'tdo shit |
| 11:18.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | the sudo system in maemo is a tad... special |
| 11:19.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | it been ahead of its time, implementing stuff like sudoers.d/* when official sudo package zpstream didn't have any of that yet |
| 11:20.04 | KotCzarny | uses rootsh app |
| 11:20.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's the one. gainroot comes with rootsh |
| 11:21.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 11:21.02 | infobot | from memory, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 11:22.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#.22root.22_your_device |
| 11:57.58 | sicelo | for my sync question a couple of days ago, i want to try syncevolution(n900) + radicale (server) + davx5 (android/fdroid) for syncing contacts bettween n900 & sgs7 |
| 11:58.16 | sicelo | crossing fingers that it'll work |
| 11:59.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | good luck! :-) |
| 12:02.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | apropos gainroot, it's`sudo gainroot` |
| 12:03.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka `root` |
| 12:06.23 | sunshavi | i installed sudser on 2010. and never looked back again |
| 12:07.51 | sunshavi | it has do the work for me. without issues. If I reflash I could re-though it. I use it from my times with N800 (the best tablet far away cos of the dpad) |
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| 14:18.47 | sunshavi | ~sudser |
| 14:57.26 | sunshavi | bencoh: thanks. It works |
| 14:57.40 | bencoh | :) |
| 14:58.50 | bencoh | sunshavi: http://pastebin.notk.org/pastebin.php?show=f4ef8e805 for the full shortcuts list |
| 14:59.40 | bencoh | (I eventually disabled subtitles though, so cycling through text won't do anything unless I'm mistaken) |
| 15:00.36 | bencoh | (and I really need to commit/push that code ...) |
| 15:03.20 | sunshavi | and actually it helps also cos tracker does not activate on every video playback |
| 15:03.44 | sunshavi | yes about subtitles. this video has subtitles and it is not showing up |
| 15:08.59 | sunshavi | this is just an idea. But perhaps could be possible converting youtube-dl to a binary app on n900. I have read it is possible to convert a python script to binary. :). Who knows maybe someday. youtube-dl changes almost once a month |
| 15:09.20 | KotCzarny | sunshavi: not going to happen just because of that |
| 15:09.30 | KotCzarny | better to keep it as a script |
| 15:10.20 | bencoh | sunshavi: you can use my player with cutetube |
| 15:10.43 | bencoh | regarding subtitles, enabling them just kills performances |
| 15:11.06 | sunshavi | ok. not an issue at all then |
| 15:11.09 | bencoh | :) |
| 15:11.24 | sunshavi | cutetube is not working on my device |
| 15:12.03 | bencoh | either it's a libsoup/tls issue (fmg released a fixed version on tmo), or cutetube stopped working altogether |
| 15:12.11 | sunshavi | i have tried fmg last version. But video is not playing |
| 15:12.29 | KotCzarny | isnt there cutetube2 or something? |
| 15:12.37 | bencoh | KotCzarny: sure, I mean cutetube2 :) |
| 15:12.38 | sunshavi | it searches. But it does not play |
| 15:12.50 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 15:13.15 | bencoh | I'll have to try that later here |
| 15:13.41 | sunshavi | we checked with maxdamantus. He helped me. But we did not get it working on my device. |
| 15:14.57 | sunshavi | bencoh: I am going to try to use gstkplay with cutetube and see where it leads |
| 15:21.59 | sunshavi | bencoh: it did not worked. perhaps tls is the issue who knows |
| 15:48.19 | bencoh | lemme check here |
| 15:51.49 | bencoh | here cutetube2 fails retrieving the video formats list ... |
| 15:52.13 | bencoh | I probably need to update cutetube or qyoutube, but ... |
| 15:59.57 | bencoh | yup, works with latest qyoutube (built from github.com/fmg) |
| 16:00.16 | bencoh | and gstkplay is playing a https url |
| 16:06.15 | bencoh | I think you need an patched gstreamer/soup plugin for that, but I don't quite remember to be honest ... |
| 16:07.25 | sunshavi | let's see my versions |
| 16:09.43 | bencoh | hmm it doesn't look like I patched gst-plugins-good here, so libsoup might be enough |
| 16:09.59 | sunshavi | https://termbin.com/aj6x |
| 16:10.23 | bencoh | 2.30.2-1+squeeze1+0m5 same here |
| 16:10.44 | bencoh | I also have 2.26.3-3maemo0 but I suppose that one is not used (?) |
| 16:11.10 | sunshavi | i do not have that one |
| 16:11.47 | sunshavi | have You compiled cutetube2?. Could that be the issue? |
| 16:12.02 | bencoh | cutetube2 is from extras(-devel iirc) |
| 16:12.27 | sunshavi | i have got mine from tmo |
| 16:12.27 | bencoh | I just recompiled qyoutube http://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/qyoutube_0.1.9-2_armel.deb |
| 16:12.51 | bencoh | cutetube2 0.5.2 |
| 16:15.23 | sunshavi | Setting up qyoutube (0.1.9-2) ... |
| 16:15.28 | sunshavi | i am going to try it now |
| 16:16.29 | sunshavi | yes |
| 16:16.29 | bencoh | it should only fix the "no stream found" issue |
| 16:16.31 | sunshavi | it works |
| 16:16.34 | bencoh | yay :) |
| 16:16.46 | sunshavi | that was the issue |
| 16:16.53 | sunshavi | bencoh: thanks |
| 16:16.56 | bencoh | yw :) |
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| 16:17.34 | bencoh | oh by the way, the main reason I eventually decided to use it with cutetube is to avoid the video tearing issues |
| 16:18.21 | bencoh | cutetube2 (and probably every qt/phonon video player on n900) shows some tearing (probably due to how the qt/gst bridge works) |
| 16:18.28 | sunshavi | mmm. by dft i have open media player. probably it should work too. But the best thing is playing youtube videos (video podcast). i follow several ones |
| 16:19.05 | bencoh | for some reason mediaplayer does not always play here |
| 16:19.38 | bencoh | it somehow fails to load media ... and reloading mafw-gst usually helps with that |
| 16:19.47 | bencoh | at some point I gave up on it |
| 16:20.24 | sunshavi | good to know. probably first time i am going to watch youtube videos on n900 |
| 16:20.29 | bencoh | and I've always wanted a lightweight player with mplayer-like bindings/behavior anyway |
| 16:21.03 | sunshavi | yes. but mplayer is resource hog. And does not play best quality for n900 videos |
| 16:21.04 | bencoh | haha, I check/fix it on mine from time to time, but I hardly ever use it for real either |
| 16:21.23 | bencoh | which is why I implemented gstkplayer as a replacement, yeah :) |
| 16:21.38 | bencoh | (wasn't that hard either to be honest) |
| 16:22.53 | sunshavi | it is time. You know. i have used gstreamer for playing audio on n800. the commands were not easily found. It differs from my workstation commands (time has happened). |
| 16:23.39 | bencoh | Using gst-launch is just a horrible experience :) |
| 16:23.53 | sunshavi | that's the one i was using |
| 16:24.04 | dreamer | 1.0 or 0.1? :P |
| 16:24.12 | bencoh | both are horrible I'd say :> |
| 16:24.27 | dreamer | (but yeah gst-launch is just meant for debugging the gst API, not to actually use in 'production') |
| 16:24.35 | sunshavi | i do not remember exactly. But let me see what i have on my n900 |
| 16:24.57 | dreamer | is guilty of using gst-launch directly despite all warnings not to |
| 16:25.24 | sunshavi | i have used most time n800 than n900 |
| 16:26.56 | sunshavi | this is my line: exec gst-launch-1.0 filesrc location="$1" ! $MY_AUDIO_CODEC ! $MY_OUT_PLUGIN |
| 16:31.29 | sunshavi | https://termbin.com/j8wx |
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| 16:53.35 | sicelo | sunshavi: iirc MaxD mentioned that youtube-dl works in EasyDeb, s/cu |
| 16:54.09 | sicelo | ah, error |
| 17:03.29 | sunshavi | yes. within a chroot |
| 17:08.21 | KotCzarny | there is gst123 |
| 17:08.33 | KotCzarny | which simplifies interacting with gstreamer |
| 17:17.12 | sunshavi | kotczarny: i did not know at that time |
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| 18:57.34 | Maxdamantus | Yes, I use it in a debian chroot (just regular debian, haven't used easydeb) |
| 19:01.09 | Maxdamantus | You don't need to build it either, just check out and directly run `youtube_dl/__main__.py` (I have that symlinked to make it easier) |
| 19:01.44 | Maxdamantus | It has some optional compilation step which seems to just bundle the sources into a single file. |
| 19:05.25 | Maxdamantus | It might have a faster startup time when using the compiled version. Without compilation, `youtube-dl --help` takes 8 seconds, but since I usually only use it when I have very slow internet speeds available, that extra startup time isn't particularly important for me. |
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