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| 00:17.24 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_maemo/latest.log.html | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 02:08.40 | brolin_empey | In my budget spreadsheet, how can I generalise âoil changeâ as the name of a category of expenses for private transportation so that it applies to a purely electric or ICE-electric hybrid vehicle in addition to a normal vehicle propelled only by an ICE and maybe even generalise it so that it is not specific to ground/land/road vehicles? |
| 02:11.56 | brolin_empey | âmotor maintenanceâ or âpowertrain maintenanceâ? |
| 02:14.01 | brolin_empey | Also, does an electric motor used to propel a vehicle have an equivalent of a spark plug or glow plug for an ICE used to propel a vehicle? |
| 02:14.53 | brolin_empey | Maybe âanalog ofâ is better in this case? |
| 02:18.44 | brolin_empey | Maybe I could find something that covers both the ICE Golf (retronym for normal Volkswagen Golf) and EGolf (purely electric, battery-powered version of the Golf) to see what terminology it uses. |
| 02:33.02 | brolin_empey | âconsumable parts for motorâ instead of âspark plug or glow plugâ? Then it would include points in old spark-ignition vehicles with a points distributor instead of electronic fuel ignition, though. |
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| 06:34.52 | sixwheeledbeast | I am in the correct chat...? |
| 06:36.21 | sixwheeledbeast | For business a lot depends if your doing business expenses and if so what that countries policy it is and type of business. |
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| 06:59.31 | sixwheeledbeast | What the hell systemd-homed ... why do home directories need to be "more portable". |
| 07:00.03 | KotCzarny | just burn it with fire |
| 07:00.06 | KotCzarny | use devuan |
| 07:24.27 | brolin_empey | sixwheeledbeast: I thought that some persons here are knowledgeable about vehicle technology. Is there even an on-topc channel (on freenode) for this type of question? The only channels I am still always in on freenode are #maemo , #maemo-leste , #neo900 , and a geographically local and mostly inactive channel (#vanlug). |
| 07:24.56 | sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: Definitely if systemd-homed is a dependency to the other guff. |
| 07:25.14 | sixwheeledbeast | brolin_empey: I thought I was in #gnucash for a moment |
| 07:26.05 | sixwheeledbeast | Still there are a lot of variables as above. |
| 07:36.28 | brolin_empey | Hmm, is this the first time I have used an HP (notebook) computer with an AMD x86 platform? |
| 07:37.34 | brolin_empey | I almost forgot that I have an HP notebook computer (2133 Mini-Note) with a VIA x86 platform. |
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| 07:41.18 | sixwheeledbeast | So did I misunderstand the question I thought it was a finical question more than a mechanical question about vehicles? |
| 07:44.57 | brolin_empey | It is a question about vehicles. I did not need to say that it is for my budget spreadsheet but I am trying to make the names of categories in this document as general as possible so I wanted to avoid adding something specific to an ICE but I do not know enough about vehicle technology to know how to generalise the term used for a normal ICE vehicle. |
| 08:00.20 | sixwheeledbeast | EV's generally don't have small consumable parts. The are practically a write off when the batteries are expired |
| 08:02.58 | sixwheeledbeast | I would say "Vehicle Maintenance" "Vehicle Consumables" and "Vehicle Capital" would catch all? |
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| 11:08.10 | Wikiwide | I am terribly exhausted. Which combination of 'decoders-support', 'ogg-support' and 'Multimedia Pack' is required to be able to play videos? Currently, I cannot even play videos recorded by Nokia N900 camera. |
| 11:11.22 | Wikiwide | Add to that that I haven't been able to record videos with my camera for a long time (only photographs), and that Mappero for unfathomable reason depends on ogg-support... |
| 11:14.33 | Wikiwide | Should I say "bust it" and just install files from http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=77695 and hope it fixes something? |
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| 11:31.18 | Wikiwide | I am not even asking for mod support. Or even ogg support. I just want reasonable maps application (mappero is nice, why does it have dependency on ogg-support?..) and ability to play videos (at the very least those recorded by Nokia N900 camera) |
| 11:34.05 | sixwheeledbeast | I have no issues with maps using either modrana or SMM. I don't seem to have issues with playing videos either but not at 720p |
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| 11:36.46 | sixwheeledbeast | n900 records a 480p mp4 and that opens fine with media player |
| 11:37.51 | Wikiwide | Doesn't. Well, let me see again after reboot... |
| 11:38.28 | Wikiwide | MyDocs are already mounted, but tracker hasn't woken up yet. |
| 11:42.55 | sixwheeledbeast | tracker-cfg you can tweak some settings if you need |
| 11:43.28 | sixwheeledbeast | while it's a PITA when tracker goes wrong i rarely have an issue with it. |
| 11:45.11 | Wikiwide | Homefs: free space: 37.7M. Is that sufficient for tracker to run? Because currently tracker status is 'Paused' |
| 11:47.51 | Wikiwide | Tracker's threshold for operation is 1% of space being available. Which filesystem? |
| 11:48.09 | sixwheeledbeast | no idea but if your having issues with multiple things maybe space is the issue? |
| 11:48.25 | Wikiwide | Because the only filesystem that has over 98% used MyDocs. |
| 11:48.34 | Wikiwide | is * MyDocs |
| 11:48.52 | sixwheeledbeast | Can you move some to a uSD? |
| 11:50.44 | Wikiwide | Nay, I do not use a uSD. Because memory cards, just like USB sticks, are use-and-lose things. Very tiny... |
| 11:59.05 | Wikiwide | 31.3M free of 27G MyDocs, and it is still considered 100% full! How does df -h do maths? |
| 12:01.14 | buZz | well, thats 0.1% free ? |
| 12:01.31 | buZz | df doesnt do decimals for 'use%' |
| 12:02.11 | Wikiwide | Alright... Which files can I delete to free up 240M?.. |
| 12:07.47 | KotCzarny | backup old photos ? |
| 12:14.53 | Wikiwide | Alright, I just deleted Navit's map of Australia. 300M which I can re-download later when I start using Navit. |
| 12:18.11 | Wikiwide | Tracker still complains, even though df -h confirms that 'only' 99% of MyDocs are in use. |
| 12:23.02 | KotCzarny | free more |
| 12:24.36 | Wikiwide | Removed Cyclemap tiles from Mapper (how is Mapper different from .maps?) |
| 12:28.46 | Wikiwide | 345.1M free on MyDocs |
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| 12:34.51 | Wikiwide | 349.8M free on MyDocs |
| 12:45.31 | sixwheeledbeast | You don't loose them if they stay in the device. |
| 12:51.04 | Wikiwide | And where would I move them? rootfs has 39MB free, but filling it would be a death sentence. Homefs has 37MB free, but that's needed for email, conversations and tracker. |
| 12:51.21 | KotCzarny | sdcard |
| 12:51.46 | Wikiwide | Haven't got around to using one of this yet. |
| 12:51.55 | Wikiwide | these * |
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| 12:52.01 | KotCzarny | 32gb are cheap as heck |
| 12:52.18 | KotCzarny | grab sandisk endurance once, they have better thermal endurance |
| 12:52.50 | Wikiwide | I know. But in our house, even USB sticks get lost easily - keeping memory card from being lost would be difficult. |
| 12:53.08 | KotCzarny | um |
| 12:53.14 | KotCzarny | make it permanent in your n900 |
| 12:53.20 | Wikiwide | Better thermal endurance... Nice, thank you! :-) |
| 12:53.27 | KotCzarny | ie. forget that it's removable |
| 12:54.00 | KotCzarny | yeah, they might not be fast, but they are made to be used in car cameras |
| 12:54.13 | KotCzarny | so have to endure direct sun ;) |
| 12:54.47 | KotCzarny | might be only marketing talk, but they are a bit more expensive than regular sandisks |
| 12:55.06 | KotCzarny | for data (photos, maps) they will be good enough though |
| 12:56.07 | KotCzarny | recently i had to inventorize my sdcards |
| 12:56.12 | KotCzarny | i have 20-30 of them |
| 12:56.20 | sixwheeledbeast | The only time I remove the uSD is to upgrade it to something bigger and I haven't done that in 5 years or so |
| 12:56.25 | KotCzarny | black marker and .txt file to the help |
| 12:56.35 | KotCzarny | swb: or when it dies? ;) |
| 12:56.57 | sixwheeledbeast | no had one die yet, even with swap on it |
| 12:57.16 | KotCzarny | i had one 128gb samsung evo+ that died for me |
| 12:57.25 | KotCzarny | was used lightly for armbian/rootfs/data |
| 12:57.29 | sixwheeledbeast | always used sandisk |
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| 12:58.57 | sixwheeledbeast | not saying samsung isn't a reputable company tho, they seem to get good reviews especially for NVMe drives |
| 12:59.25 | KotCzarny | it didnt exactly die, but went readonly |
| 12:59.45 | KotCzarny | most likely some block reached specific number of writes |
| 12:59.54 | Wikiwide | At least, can get data off it |
| 13:00.07 | KotCzarny | ya, but 128gb costed a bit |
| 13:04.38 | sixwheeledbeast | I am still amazed you can fit 1tb on one. |
| 13:05.08 | Wikiwide | So am I. |
| 13:06.11 | KotCzarny | 3d tlc ? :> |
| 13:06.19 | KotCzarny | or qlc even |
| 13:06.33 | KotCzarny | but i suspect temperature would wreak havoc on reliability |
| 13:06.54 | Wikiwide | 405.9MB free. And no, quantum computing is not in mass-production yet. |
| 13:08.19 | sixwheeledbeast | likely "MLC". Local shops dont stock anything smaller than 32g |
| 13:10.42 | Wikiwide | 441.5M free, tracker still stuck |
| 13:19.31 | Wikiwide | 486.4M free, tracker still stuck |
| 13:21.21 | Wikiwide | Changed configuration from 1 to -1, tracker unstuck |
| 13:22.54 | Wikiwide | Of course, it has to re-index everything, even though I didn't delete databases. |
| 13:24.07 | Wikiwide | Of course, re-indexing will take at least an hour. |
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| 13:37.28 | Wikiwide | Tracker seems to work. But video still not working. Media format not supported, or Video codec not supported, depending on file. |
| 13:40.38 | Wikiwide | So which is better, ogg-support, xiph-support, or decoders-support? |
| 13:45.13 | Wikiwide | What does "Media format not supported" mean, even? I can understand "Codec not supported", "go install more codecs", but 'media format' eludes me. |
| 13:53.08 | buZz | container |
| 13:54.33 | Wikiwide | Like MPEG-4? What could the problem be? |
| 13:55.38 | Wikiwide | I can see thumbnail of a video, where tracker has just re-indexed the videos. I cannot play it because Media format not supported. |
| 13:56.25 | Wikiwide | Granted, most videos don't even have thumbnails. |
| 14:20.58 | Wikiwide | No connection to server, what does that error mean? |
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| 22:36.28 | Wikiwide | Could it be that with only 3M of RAM free, mediaplayer simply cannot play anything? |
| 22:39.51 | Wikiwide | Yes, it can play this 21sec grey movie. Great job, but it's boring to look at, even knowing that somebody painted every part of "The Overcoat" manually, without computer animation. |
| 22:41.55 | Wikiwide | The two videos that I could play are QuickTime Cinepack cvid .mov files. |
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