| 00:06.35 | sixwheeledbeast | ~zzztop |
| 00:06.35 | infobot | hmm... zzztop is - the better and even FOSS powertop - http://wiki.maemo.org/Zzztop |
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| 09:17.29 | brolin_empey | Not that it matters but I no longer have cellular connectivity compatible with the integrated cellular modem of the N900 because I switched from Fido (Rogers Wireless) to Lucky Mobile (Bell Mobility) as part of reducing my monthly fixed expenses because my income is too little. |
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| 15:33.45 | sicelo | now it's a real NIT :) |
| 15:35.07 | sicelo | at that meeting i was in a week ago, where the telecoms regulator said we don't need 5G, I asked if they had plans to discontinue 2G. They said no, which means my N900 stil has some life |
| 15:56.21 | KotCzarny | see? |
| 15:56.26 | KotCzarny | less e-waste |
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| 16:30.15 | sunshavi | sicelo I also have a NIT |
| 16:33.16 | sicelo | where's that sunshavi? no 2G/3G anymore? |
| 16:33.55 | sunshavi | modem failed |
| 16:34.29 | sicelo | oh, that. i have an N900 like that :) been using it to test Leste and PostmarketOS |
| 16:35.06 | sunshavi | i can not install leste there . Cos of bluetooth |
| 16:35.19 | sicelo | what about bluetooth? |
| 16:35.20 | sunshavi | I use it for remote controling the orange pi on the car |
| 16:35.26 | sicelo | oh i see |
| 16:35.37 | sicelo | what does the orange pi do? |
| 16:36.20 | sicelo | (btw, Leste is not a permanent install .. i run it from SD card, and still have access to Fremantle when i need to) |
| 16:36.44 | sunshavi | http://www.kipuamutay.com/en/blog/improveAutoradioWithOpi.html |
| 16:37.53 | sunshavi | Mmm. what I would like to do is running leste in place of archlinux on orange pi. But again bluetooth would be the problem. Bluetooth is key on my use case |
| 16:39.12 | sicelo | the reason bT does not work is simply because N900's BT is quirky on mainline for now. but on devices where BT is supported ( i hope on OPi for example), then of course BT will work with Leste |
| 16:39.58 | sunshavi | mmm. then I could try it. :) |
| 16:40.09 | sicelo | i've considered sometihng like that project for my car .. but N900's FM transmitter seems good enough for me :) |
| 16:40.39 | sunshavi | yeah, But I have 10 thousand mp3 files. Just emacs can cope with that |
| 16:40.54 | KotCzarny | or oscp |
| 16:40.55 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 16:41.06 | sicelo | what i still want to do is use an sbc for gps, but must still find a gps receiver that i can connect to the ones i have (BBB an NTC CHIP) |
| 16:41.07 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: lol |
| 16:41.44 | sunshavi | I am an emacs guys. People on emacs have a tendency to do everything within emacs |
| 16:41.59 | sunshavi | but oscp is great I have liked it |
| 16:42.17 | KotCzarny | yeah, it's one of those cases where user experience is most important |
| 16:42.45 | sunshavi | yes. on opi I have moved from mplayer as backend to mpv |
| 16:43.39 | sunshavi | my X resolution on opi is 1920x1200. H3 without lima have issues playing video on it |
| 16:43.57 | KotCzarny | for video play you need cedrus, not lima |
| 16:44.12 | KotCzarny | lima is for 3d accel |
| 16:44.14 | sunshavi | but cedrus needs vlc which is resource hungry |
| 16:44.26 | KotCzarny | there is mplayer with cedrus working |
| 16:44.31 | sunshavi | mmmm? |
| 16:44.42 | sunshavi | that is great news for me |
| 16:44.44 | KotCzarny | in fact, folks who develop cedrus used mplayer as a testing tool |
| 16:45.06 | KotCzarny | i thihnk it was rellla or jernej |
| 16:45.23 | sunshavi | then I need the git address for compiling it. 5.3 is coming tomorrow. And I plan to upgrade on monday |
| 16:45.51 | sunshavi | cedrus would have x264 support on 5.3 |
| 16:46.08 | KotCzarny | yes, and x265 too i think |
| 16:47.05 | sunshavi | really neat. I was planning on dropping h3 and moving to h6. But going back to firefox in place of chromium has coped with my memory issues by now |
| 16:47.27 | sunshavi | mail is going to help me with krita weth using a huion tablet? |
| 16:47.35 | sunshavi | s/mail/mali/ |
| 16:48.00 | sunshavi | s/weth/when/ |
| 16:48.16 | sicelo | haha |
| 16:48.36 | sicelo | now it's back to mail |
| 16:48.48 | sunshavi | yes infobot has an issue :) |
| 16:51.26 | sunshavi | back to oscp: the other day I wanted to send different sounds to different bluetooth speakers (a weird case i know. I was just testing) {it was when in the car}. Could I launch different oscp sessions? |
| 16:52.13 | KotCzarny | i think it sends to pulse, so it will go wherever fremantle sends it to |
| 16:52.28 | sunshavi | It is just a curious question BTW |
| 16:52.30 | KotCzarny | in other words, when i enable fm transmitter, it correctly routes audio |
| 16:52.43 | KotCzarny | ie. stops playing on speakers and plays on radio |
| 16:53.15 | KotCzarny | havent tested bt, but i suspect it works correctly |
| 16:54.55 | sunshavi | Think in this case. (this is with Opi). You are on the car and your son want music from his Usb-pendrive. And your daughter wants also music from her-pendrive. With just one OPI. how could I do that? (It is just curiosity, nothing really important) |
| 16:55.24 | sunshavi | obviously with bluetooth headphones |
| 16:55.39 | KotCzarny | you mean 2 separate outputs? |
| 16:55.44 | sunshavi | yes |
| 16:55.54 | KotCzarny | that's tricky |
| 16:56.14 | KotCzarny | how would they choose it to play? |
| 16:56.34 | KotCzarny | you would either need 2 operating systems or 2 separate players |
| 16:56.51 | KotCzarny | and 2 bt dongles maybe |
| 16:56.59 | sunshavi | i could open two terminal on N900 for every bluetooth dongle |
| 16:57.10 | sunshavi | terminal with ssh session to opi |
| 16:58.28 | sunshavi | Yes. I was thinking on that mplayer has an option for especifing the bluetooth device. The curiosity question is ¿How oscp manages that case? |
| 16:58.28 | KotCzarny | but imo 2 separate devices might be easiest to achieve |
| 16:58.45 | KotCzarny | and maybe sharing filesystem via samba or nfs to them from single opi |
| 16:59.26 | KotCzarny | oscp doesnt know what system outputs to, it uses simplepulse lib and os does the rest |
| 16:59.50 | KotCzarny | with command lines one might probably spawn 2 separate audio players with manually selected audio out |
| 17:00.55 | sunshavi | nice. Then oscp could manage that case. That would convert OPI on a Hub-Music-Device |
| 17:02.22 | KotCzarny | still, i havent heard of multi user audio player with separate audio out for different users |
| 17:02.35 | KotCzarny | but i havent looked for such, to be honest |
| 17:02.56 | KotCzarny | oscp is more about multi-remotes, single audio out case |
| 17:03.00 | sunshavi | It is probably a corner case |
| 17:03.55 | KotCzarny | but on linux it's doable, just needs some hackery |
| 17:04.43 | KotCzarny | imo it would definitely need 2 audio dongles (either 2 bt or 2 n900s) |
| 17:05.28 | sunshavi | or an lcd screen on opi |
| 17:05.40 | sunshavi | lcd and also touch screen |
| 17:05.55 | KotCzarny | and 2 players running side by side? |
| 17:05.57 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 17:06.04 | sunshavi | yes |
| 17:06.07 | KotCzarny | but 2x n900 case would be easiest |
| 17:06.21 | KotCzarny | they would get both separate bt and own controller |
| 17:06.34 | KotCzarny | and opi would serve files via samba/nfs |
| 17:06.50 | KotCzarny | that's easiest solution |
| 17:07.16 | sunshavi | yes. N900 the easiest. Battery life could be an issue. Opi power comes from cigarrete lighter |
| 17:07.34 | sunshavi | BTW. I have been experimenting with using NFS on opi |
| 17:07.58 | sunshavi | it shares fine to x220. But the contrary has not been possible yet |
| 17:08.16 | sunshavi | probably kernel config issues |
| 17:08.21 | KotCzarny | well, 2 opis would be an alternative, but then you still need some controller to select files to play |
| 17:08.54 | sunshavi | not two opis (I have just one cigarret lighter) |
| 17:09.40 | KotCzarny | glue the n900s to the back of the front seats and route power to them? :) |
| 17:10.04 | sunshavi | that would be nice |
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| 17:15.59 | sunshavi | nice talking to You guys. Time to conmute |
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| 17:58.12 | ontime | Strange, on N900 when I use Alpine with Gmail through WiFi, everything is ok, but when I switch to GSM, it won't connect at all. It says no authorized |
| 17:58.37 | ontime | Other mail service works fine through GSM. On maemo I has libssl 0.9.8, and in easydeb libssl is 1.0.1f, both behaves the same, any clue? |
| 18:04.48 | KotCzarny | some proxy? |
| 18:04.58 | KotCzarny | or your gsm operator is fishy |
| 18:05.06 | KotCzarny | and intercepts ssl |
| 18:06.22 | ontime | no proxy |
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| 19:02.45 | ontime | It was google security. New device & new ISP, it was need logging through web browser and confirm new device. Now it works also with Alpine and others. |
| 19:03.47 | ontime | Why N900 doesn't allow enable FmTX when earphone are plugged in? |
| 19:05.33 | ontime | FmTX has it own antenna |
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| 19:10.20 | sicelo | because Nokia thought that the audio should go one way only, either fmtx or earphone/speaker |
| 19:11.41 | sicelo | when using fmtx with mainline kernel, audio goes to both fmtx and speakers/headphone simultaneously, unless you turn the speaker off |
| 19:15.35 | ontime | ok, can it be some hacked and to have fmtx on with heeadphone connected? |
| 19:16.33 | sicelo | i suppose so ... although very few are hacking on fremantle anymore |
| 19:17.40 | ontime | it would be handy but e, whatever |
| 19:19.09 | ontime | N900 it's still cool device, thx KotCzarny, sicelo |
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