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| 06:19.06 | brolin_empey | KotCzarny: I gather that opipc = Orange Pi PC, which is apparently detailed at http://www.orangepi.org/orangepipc/ , which looks outdated compared to the Raspberry Pi Model B or B+ version 3 or 4. |
| 06:25.48 | brolin_empey | Note that I do not use *Pi. I like tiny x86 computers that can be powered from only 5 VDC. |
| 06:34.21 | brolin_empey | Which reminds me: I wonder if I can find a PC/104 (not literally. I mean the newer versions that use PCI or PCI Express.) tiny, fanless x86 computer to replace the fanful Core 2 tower computer in my bedroom. The Asus UL30Vt Core 2 ULV notebook computer still seems to work well as a replacement for my Athlon Thunderbird 1400 tower computer in my bedroom. Yes, the UL30Vt has a fan but I cannot hear it so I do not know if it ever runs and I did not have to |
| 06:34.21 | brolin_empey | pay for the UL30Vt because my father gave it to me because he no longer needs it. |
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| 07:55.43 | sixwheeledbeast | Chinese Rpi clone? |
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| 08:41.34 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_maemo/latest.log.html | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 10:30.13 | brolin_empey | sixwheeledbeast: Apparently the Orange Pi is Chinese but I do not know if it is considered a clone of the Raspberry Pi. |
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| 10:44.15 | enyc | meows |
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| 10:49.36 | enyc | If I'm trying to rewire (again) usb sockets onto n900's (upside-down soldered on board etc.) might i mbe better getting usb-C or something other than usb-micro anyhow? |
| 10:49.52 | enyc | I still want the usb-host-support possibilty but only the 4 wire connection otherwise... ?? |
| 10:50.04 | enyc | or isthat 5th-wire to activate host mode critical? |
| 10:50.21 | KotCzarny | without 5th wire you have to toggle host/device mode manually |
| 10:50.42 | enyc | come to think of it i don't think thats' eevn connecte on my n900 where the usb has been replaced anyhow |
| 10:51.10 | enyc | hoppy with manual toggle but don't know in terms of phsyicaliity of connector and think wires to the pins etc etc |
| 10:53.35 | enyc | looks like a potential pain to solder however |
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| 11:06.35 | Vajb | did anyone order decent tablet computer from aliexpress? |
| 11:06.47 | KotCzarny | define 'decent' |
| 11:07.18 | Vajb | decent = packs enough punch for years to come |
| 11:08.27 | brolin_empey | KotCzarny: I thought USB Host/Device mode has to be manually toggled on the N900 even with the original microUSB connector. Or am I thinking of manually selecting the speed for USB Host mode? |
| 11:12.40 | enyc | Vajb: I use x201-tablet ;p |
| 11:12.48 | enyc | convertible thing, but i like it |
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| 12:51.42 | Vajb | enyc: I thought of something smaller :p |
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| 12:52.23 | Vajb | currently I have galaxy tab 2, but it has become nearly unusable because of low processing power |
| 12:54.02 | Vajb | it has only two cores and lass than 1gb of ram. So thinking of replacing it with some Octacore thing with loads of ram |
| 12:54.13 | Vajb | lass = less* |
| 12:55.43 | KotCzarny | dont think about less than 3GB of ram |
| 12:55.58 | KotCzarny | especially with android7/8/9 |
| 13:04.02 | Vajb | that's what I thought |
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| 13:10.11 | KotCzarny | you could get away with 1-2gb if you are careful about what you install and trim bloatware |
| 13:10.39 | KotCzarny | but since you are looking for something a bit future proof.. |
| 13:14.04 | sicelo | droid 4 with LineageOS 14 (Android 7) is definitely usable with the 1GB .. but of course, not future proof |
| 13:14.27 | KotCzarny | sicelo, start installing things.. |
| 13:14.28 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 13:14.41 | KotCzarny | unless of course you only want bare system without anything |
| 13:14.49 | Vajb | I have one app that could use more power and that's the reason why Im considering new tablet |
| 13:15.17 | KotCzarny | when choosing media device, it would be worth considering supported media formats too |
| 13:15.21 | sicelo | i've installed lots of stuff (telegram, WA, slack, word, excel, connectbot, etc.) :) |
| 13:15.42 | Vajb | and before you say "use another app", I say not possible ;) |
| 13:16.14 | Vajb | any good sites to compare tablets? |
| 13:16.34 | sicelo | gsmarena maybe? has a compare thingy |
| 13:18.09 | Vajb | gonna check it out thx |
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| 14:27.39 | KotCzarny | vajb: https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/08/27/fairphone-3-socially-responsible-android-smartphone-user-repairable/ |
| 14:27.40 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:28.37 | bencoh | aaand still qualcomm |
| 14:28.49 | bencoh | "fair" and qualcomm still sounds like a silly joke to me :) |
| 14:28.56 | KotCzarny | bencoh: you would prefer mediatek? |
| 14:28.57 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:29.06 | KotCzarny | but their 'fair' is about e-waste |
| 14:29.11 | KotCzarny | not blobs |
| 14:30.22 | bencoh | KotCzarny: not that they're much better, but I guess, yeah, somehow |
| 14:30.28 | KotCzarny | seriously, the only deblobbed soc right now is allwinner |
| 14:30.43 | bencoh | you forgot imx (sort of) |
| 14:31.12 | bencoh | I don't recall running any blob on imx7 apart from the ROM |
| 14:31.16 | KotCzarny | cant say about imx, as i dont have any board |
| 14:31.36 | KotCzarny | but can it build and run uboot/kernel without any blobs? |
| 14:31.45 | bencoh | yeah |
| 14:32.02 | KotCzarny | 3d gpu/video decoder/encoder too? |
| 14:32.06 | bencoh | to be fair I think the SDMA loads some kind of micro-firmware, but I'm not even so sure |
| 14:32.13 | bencoh | imx7 has no vpu/gpu :) |
| 14:32.32 | KotCzarny | i've only heard about .6 and .8 |
| 14:32.33 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:33.53 | bencoh | imx7 is loosely based on imx6, but low-power |
| 14:34.10 | Vajb | by investigating a bit I see that I actually need smart phone, not a tablet... |
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| 14:34.32 | bencoh | (with less features / blocks, a more modular clock tree, and a cortex-a7 instead of A9) |
| 14:38.13 | KotCzarny | im planning to grab pinephone this fall. although its a pity it doesnt have dual sim |
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| 14:44.38 | brolin_empey | My company has its own ARM Linux platform based upon the i.MX 283. http://medallionsystem.com/cpu-modules/tscm/index.html but this Web site is outdated, mostly unchanged since 2012. |
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| 15:07.20 | brolin_empey | That Fairphone 3 looks quite underwhelming for 450 EUR compared to a used or refurbished LG G5 for around 100 CAD. That article does not say which type of flat-panel display the Fairphone 3 has so I guess it is only an AMLCD, not an LED display? |
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| 15:13.06 | brolin_empey | 30 EUR for a replacement battery? A new battery for the LG G5 costs only around 10 CAD including shipping on eBay. |
| 15:27.34 | xmn | are ebay batteries reliable? I have found it hard for the n900. |
| 15:27.38 | xmn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K1SJNeXVIs |
| 15:29.36 | xmn | And I agree that the price is not ideal. But your not buying this for it's specs necessarily, your more likely buying it because of you want to buy less stuff or be able to repair stuff. |
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| 15:56.57 | brolin_empey | xmn: Batteries from eBay usually work well for me but I have not used a non-Nokia battery in a Nokia computer. |
| 15:58.39 | xmn | I see. I just found it hard to find good reliable battery makers. they for me never seem to have as long of a lifespan. |
| 16:03.33 | bencoh | the first (and last) "nokia" batteries I bought from ebay didn't charge over 800mAh (that was 5y ago) |
| 16:03.39 | bencoh | I then move to polarcell |
| 16:03.42 | bencoh | moved* |
| 16:03.58 | bencoh | but your milleage may vary I guess |
| 16:04.08 | bencoh | mileage* gah |
| 16:04.13 | xmn | that my experience;) |
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| 18:10.12 | Vajb | well, I bought my Polarcell batteries from ebay :) |
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| 18:57.56 | xmn | oh interesting, https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/08/27/new-huawei-os-shock-confirmation-of-russian-software-for-mobile-devices/#544f6ea979c8 |
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