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| 02:21.55 | brolin_empey | Is there a somewhat recent fanless stationary x86-64 computer that can have at least 8 GiB or, preferably, at least 16 GiB of main memory? |
| 02:27.16 | brolin_empey | I ask because it seems to me that the main reason I still use a microATX or larger motherboard in a computer with at least one fan is because I want to use a fanless video card that needs a PCI Express Ã16 slot but I rarely play any computer game any more so I guess the only reason I need such a video card is to simultaneously and independently drive three video monitors but maybe I could still have triple-head capability including one 3840Ã2160 video |
| 02:27.16 | brolin_empey | monitor with a small, fanless x86-64 computer but I want at least 8 GiB, preferably at least 16 GiB, of main memory. |
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| 03:16.06 | Maxdamantus | Why do you want a graphics card at all? |
| 03:16.18 | Maxdamantus | uses three monitors on integrated graphics. |
| 03:17.04 | Maxdamantus | 5120Ã1080 |
| 03:17.43 | Maxdamantus | Maybe having a 3840Ã2160 monitor is significant, dunno. |
| 03:21.08 | Maxdamantus | Based on the specifications here: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/75043/intel-core-i5-4570-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-60-ghz.html , the "max resolutions" must apply to individual monitors, not total output, since my total horizontal resolution is 5120 |
| 03:21.47 | Maxdamantus | (those are the specifications for my CPU) |
| 03:24.30 | Maxdamantus | note: my monitors are 1920Ã1080 (HDMI), 1920Ã1080 (DVI), 1280Ã1024 (VGA) |
| 03:25.20 | Maxdamantus | imagines newer CPUs/motherboards would support three outputs without requiring one of them be VGA |
| 03:31.42 | brolin_empey | I still use Core 2 era computers. The video controller integrated on the motherboard is not UHD capable and only has one output for one video monitor. |
| 03:32.35 | Maxdamantus | Right, but presumably you're wanting to get something more recent, since you said "somewhat recent" |
| 03:35.40 | brolin_empey | Apparently DFI makes a fanless Nehalem era or later stationary computer that can use the fanless PCI Express video card I currently use but DFI never replied to my request for quantity=1 pricing and I did not spend more time trying to find pricing, such as from a distributor/reseller. |
| 03:37.55 | brolin_empey | I do not need a newer/faster than Core 2 computer but I want a fanless computer and, ideallly, with non-volatile main memory too. |
| 03:38.25 | Maxdamantus | Presumably if price is a concern, wouldn't it be more effectively to just buy second-hand parts? |
| 03:38.33 | Maxdamantus | s/ly\>// |
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| 03:40.23 | brolin_empey | I doubt that I could find this type of fanless industrial computer for sale used. I have not even found it for sale new. |
| 03:41.09 | Maxdamantus | If you buy parts you can just mix and match things to get what you want. |
| 03:42.05 | Maxdamantus | eg, there aren't really any CPUs that are particularly made to be fanless. You just get a passive heatsink and put it into a conventional CPU. |
| 03:44.07 | brolin_empey | It has RS485 and other specialised industrial stuff that I do not need but it is fanless, supports up to at least 16 or 32 GiB of main memory, and can use a âdesktopâ video card that uses a PCI Express Ã16 slot. It has a specially designed metal chassis/case so it can be completely fanless. |
| 03:45.33 | Maxdamantus | Okay, but is the motherboard special? |
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| 03:57.04 | Maxdamantus | The usual components categorisation site used here has a category for fanless cases (though there are only currently three cases in the category): https://pricespy.co.nz/category.php?k=v2229 |
| 04:42.52 | brolin_empey | Apparently they are DFI models EC511-SD and EC511-HD. They are sold as a single product with the motherboard in the case. |
| 04:44.38 | brolin_empey | https://web.archive.org/web/20170209124143/http://www.dfi-itox.com/products/product.php?productId=10005 |
| 04:44.38 | brolin_empey | The other model was at http://www.dfi-itox.com/products/product.php?productId=10074 but this page is gone from the live Internet and is not in the Internet Archive Wayback Machine. |
| 04:54.49 | brolin_empey | Here is one of them on the current DFI Web site: |
| 04:54.49 | brolin_empey | https://estore.dfi.com/index.php/ec510-ec511-hd.html |
| 04:54.49 | brolin_empey | Apparently it sells for around 686 dollars, presumably USD but lots of countries use a currency named dollar, including Taiwan, the home country of DFI. |
| 05:01.12 | brolin_empey | Here is the other model on the current DFI Web site but without any pricing: |
| 05:01.12 | brolin_empey | https://us.dfi.com/Product/Index/127 |
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| 18:37.04 | infobot | methinks beasttweaks is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Sixwheeledbeast/Scripts |
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| 22:33.11 | Wikiwide | Broke my stylus (poor fragile things, they suffer when software is slow). Took a 3D doodle pen, and heat-melded stylus back together. Rough, patchy, bulging like a broken bone, but it works, for now. Cleaned out much of the dust from stylus bay. |
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| 23:10.35 | Wikiwide | Temperature of melting for stylus is somewhere under 200°C, or so. |
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