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| 08:09.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | xmn gone? A pity. Would be worth investigating options to work around or fix slide sensor |
| 08:10.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | (supl-proxy) can't we run a supl server on maemo.org? |
| 08:11.17 | sixwheeledbeast | that was my thought |
| 08:14.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | *maybe* we should use ssh or ssl with individual keys users obtain from maemo suply management orga for a donation of arbitrary amount, valid 1 year. Would avoid any exploitation of the supl server infra as well |
| 08:14.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/suply/SUPL/ |
| 08:16.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | to test, I'd offer free test certs/keys that expire after 3 days |
| 08:16.25 | sixwheeledbeast | i believe the proxy will only work with the modified certs so unlikely people will use it for anything other than maemo. |
| 08:17.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | and also get void when overused, by sth like fail2ban with a threshold of 100 connections / hour |
| 08:17.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: I'm talking right outa my rear, but maybe some ideas in there worth getting refinement |
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| 08:19.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh, now I get it, SUPL already _has_ cert protection, right? |
| 08:20.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | which I guess was one of the major sources of any troubles with SUPL during the last 10 years |
| 08:22.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | re xmn's "broken" device: I wonder what the heck actually broke. And I also wonder how much real trouble user would experience from a kbd slide that's considered always open. Better than always closed anyways |
| 08:22.57 | Maxdamantus | Why would it need modified certs? |
| 08:23.34 | Maxdamantus | Wasn't the issue just that Google started rejecting old TLS clients? |
| 08:24.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | could the magnet have latched up between display slide and main PCB / hallswitch and have damaged the latter? if so then in which way? just a few pins torn off the PCB? |
| 08:24.41 | sixwheeledbeast | it was hosted at nokia, google one didn't work they rejected requests IIRC |
| 08:24.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | or does the magnet stick right on top of the hall chip and nobody noticed? |
| 08:24.59 | Maxdamantus | Oh. |
| 08:25.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | thetre was a time google SUPL worked with N900 |
| 08:25.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | and there was a point in time when it stopped to work |
| 08:33.57 | sixwheeledbeast | i say was i believe nokia still works if you fix yo TLS hence proxy |
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| 09:07.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, didn't parse |
| 09:07.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
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| 11:31.53 | sixwheeledbeast | s/\<was\>/& ,/ |
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| 12:45.11 | sicelo | bencoh: yes supl-proxy works fine, and i agree it is a good solution. the slight problem we have is that - if the gps fails to lock (this does happen even after getting valid supl response), then even re-running the proxy doesn't help, as no further supl requests are made by the device. |
| 12:45.59 | sicelo | what i tried at some point is to stop and restart location-proxy, but i couldn't get something conclusive. |
| 12:46.54 | sicelo | however it seems that a new supl request does get emitted if the cellid or some such changes. |
| 12:47.28 | sicelo | i'll do a brief writeup on wiki so others can also test. |
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