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| 04:21.29 | sunshavi | Hi docscrutinizer51: If I would like to use a couple of batteries {one a polarcell and the other a chinese battery} after doing the charge-cycle y could store the values for reusing it later. When putting the other brand battery? and not repeating the charg-cycle again |
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| 05:15.28 | sicelo | afaik that's not possible. |
| 05:18.23 | sunshavi | Hi sicelo |
| 05:18.31 | sunshavi | mmm. too bad for me |
| 05:19.25 | sunshavi | anyway. I am going to do it now. my phone (now table without modem working). It has been waiting for me almost a month fully charged |
| 05:20.17 | sunshavi | sicelo: is this the procedure? |
| 05:20.17 | sunshavi | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1053809&postcount=846 |
| 05:21.26 | sicelo | yes |
| 05:28.07 | sunshavi | sicelo: thanks. I am going to do it |
| 05:35.37 | sunshavi | i was thinking it's juist one cycle. But they are five |
| 05:40.10 | KotCzarny | or just use it and stop worrying about it? |
| 05:41.21 | sunshavi | as it is the device turn off without any notification. I need it to tell me when it have 5% capacity |
| 05:43.07 | KotCzarny | let it turn off few times, and charge, it will calibrate on use? |
| 05:44.59 | sunshavi | It has not happened in the past |
| 05:45.42 | KotCzarny | you probably need to be careful when it goes down to ~10% then |
| 05:46.08 | KotCzarny | then do the correct discharge end and start charging before it powersoff itself |
| 05:46.26 | KotCzarny | ie. try not to induce high usage below 10% |
| 05:47.04 | sunshavi | "correct discharge" is with "bq27200.sh"? |
| 05:47.10 | KotCzarny | yeah |
| 05:47.32 | KotCzarny | just to observe when it triggers cycle end |
| 05:48.06 | sunshavi | ok. btw my new phone is a nokia 1208b from 2007. :) |
| 05:48.35 | KotCzarny | huh :) |
| 05:48.41 | sicelo | and my daily is a Nokia N-Gage from 2003 (plus the N900) |
| 05:48.49 | sicelo | :P |
| 05:49.13 | sunshavi | sicelo: that's is my case now the n900-tablet and the 1208 |
| 05:49.16 | KotCzarny | if you are going feature phone, why not 3310 ? ;) |
| 05:49.30 | sunshavi | 3310-2017 edition? |
| 05:49.35 | KotCzarny | nope, the original |
| 05:49.36 | sunshavi | or the classic one? |
| 05:50.14 | sunshavi | well. That would be nice. But the 2017 edition has 16 Gb mem anb bt ;) |
| 05:50.45 | KotCzarny | bah, it's still a feature phone ;) |
| 05:51.12 | sunshavi | the most important piece for me is the keyboard |
| 05:51.51 | sunshavi | even the 1208 (which I have just undusted) has a nice keyboard and has snake also |
| 05:51.58 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 05:52.16 | sunshavi | my 3310 was a CDMA :( |
| 05:53.05 | sunshavi | three days of battery life on my 1208 on the bright side |
| 05:53.28 | KotCzarny | a bit low for a feature phone? |
| 05:53.39 | KotCzarny | unless it runs droid? |
| 05:53.41 | sunshavi | so n900 guys be jealous of me. :p. It is just a joke |
| 05:54.11 | sunshavi | lol. droid on the 1208?. it does not have a usb conn |
| 05:54.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 05:54.26 | sunshavi | reading sms on it. it's a pain |
| 05:54.40 | sunshavi | I miss conversations |
| 05:54.59 | KotCzarny | yeah, it was nice invention |
| 05:55.10 | KotCzarny | to sort sms by recipient |
| 05:55.52 | sunshavi | but the thing i like most about the 1208 it's the dpad. Nokia should had kept it on the n900 |
| 05:56.05 | sicelo | 3310 - cdma? well it worked on our non-cdma network here |
| 05:56.51 | sunshavi | 3310 was in two versions CDMA and GSM |
| 06:00.21 | sunshavi | OMG. 1 am here. See You later guys |
| 06:00.30 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 07:38.46 | KotCzarny | https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/06/06/software-development-librem-5-pinephone-linux-phones/ |
| 07:39.01 | KotCzarny | darn, 150$ mainline linux phone? |
| 07:39.25 | KotCzarny | what's not to like |
| 08:22.21 | sixwheeledbeast | no keyboard |
| 08:22.38 | KotCzarny | i think they have kb as a dock or something |
| 08:25.57 | KotCzarny | hrm |
| 08:26.12 | KotCzarny | or maybe it was for their laptop thing |
| 08:26.39 | KotCzarny | yeah. no hwkb is an issue, still nice for software side |
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| 09:03.21 | brolin_empey | Why do credit card companies have such lame and crappy Web sites for their customers? Sigh. |
| 09:07.28 | Maxdamantus | Why would anyone use a credit card anyway? |
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| 09:13.57 | brolin_empey | Because the alternative is Interac, which allows someone to directly withdraw money from my chequeing account when someone skims the PIN for my account. |
| 09:15.04 | Maxdamantus | Can't you just get a visa debit card from your bank? |
| 09:15.52 | brolin_empey | I dislike using cash. I like electronic commerce. |
| 09:16.51 | Maxdamantus | So using a debit card counts as using cash? |
| 09:17.23 | mickname | My visa credit card is managed through my banks web site, which is pretty ok. |
| 09:17.51 | Maxdamantus | When I say "visa debit card", I mean something that people might simply refer to as a "credit card" |
| 09:18.45 | brolin_empey | I do not think I can and I use a credit union, not a bank. In my experience, a normal credit card is still required because some merchants still do not accept Visa Debit. I know this because my company has a Visa Debit card but they sometimes have to use my personal credit card account because Visa Debit is not always accepted. |
| 09:18.46 | mickname | And yeah, makes sense to always use credit instead of debit as of crouse it's better to pay everythiong as late as possible as the money can be invested ;) |
| 09:19.02 | Maxdamantus | but the point is it just takes money out of your bank account, instead of using some balance in some third-party company that needs to make a profit off you, through high interest rates or fees or something. |
| 09:20.16 | Maxdamantus | afaik interest rates on credit cards are much higher than, eg, mortgage interest rates. |
| 09:20.36 | brolin_empey | Maxdamantus: I began writing my reply before I received your reply. |
| 09:20.49 | Maxdamantus | so if you want to invest that money, you'd be better off just withholding it from something else (eg, your mortgage, if you have one). |
| 09:21.52 | mickname | I mean I'm paying my credit card bill off in full every time, I just need to pay for my expenses ~month later than what I actually purchased them on, so that money can be used for useful purposes meanwhile |
| 09:22.33 | KotCzarny | it's a trap. |
| 09:22.44 | mickname | The expenses from the credit card are thus ~3 eur / month, which would be the same as a plain credit card anyways |
| 09:22.52 | KotCzarny | while many people will use it reasonably, it's a trap for dumber/weaker ones |
| 09:23.19 | mickname | Yeah, I wouldn't recommend that if you don't have regular income |
| 09:23.47 | KotCzarny | it's a disease that will eat up parts of the body (society) |
| 09:24.00 | KotCzarny | and in the end it will affect even the reasonable ones |
| 09:24.26 | brolin_empey | I do not own anything more valuable than my car. (Residential) real estate is completely unaffordable to buy here. |
| 09:24.48 | Maxdamantus | Assuming mortgage rates are about 4%, â¬3/month is equivalent to keeping an extra â¬1000 in the bank instead of paying it into the mortgage. |
| 09:25.37 | Maxdamantus | well, â¬900 |
| 09:26.20 | Maxdamantus | so unless you're using it for a buffer of more than â¬900, it's probably not worth it. |
| 09:26.47 | Maxdamantus | or unless you can't get a card in other ways without paying an extra fee. |
| 09:27.18 | Maxdamantus | afaik debit visa cards are normally just a standard thing you get with a bank account here. |
| 09:27.24 | mickname | Yeah it's not "really" worth it, but it costs the same as a regular debit card so no point of not taking use of it |
| 09:29.13 | mickname | And I used average yearly returns on investment of 7% and 1000 eur of balance on average on the card. |
| 09:32.13 | Maxdamantus | I wonder why the credit card company doesn't just invest that money then. |
| 09:32.57 | mickname | There are enough people at their limit only paying off the minimum amount at 10% yearly interest |
| 09:33.35 | mickname | And they take a huge slice of every purchase anyways |
| 09:34.12 | mickname | (One reason I actually disliek credit cards is the hidden tranaction fees. I feel bad for the merchants of how much they lose on each purchase...) |
| 09:35.39 | Maxdamantus | from what I've seen of online stores here, they tend to just add the 2.5% to the price if you pay by visa card (instead of eg, bank transfer) |
| 09:36.43 | mickname | At least some of the cc companies and for example paypal forbid doing that. Some merchants circumvent that by giving you a -2% if you purchase using some other method :) |
| 09:37.08 | mickname | So I haven't seen that practice around... |
| 09:38.43 | mickname | If I actually had to pay more using a cc, I probably wouldn't use it at all. Maybe for the insurance some times. |
| 09:42.27 | mickname | Oh well, that kind of insurance doesn't seem to be universal for credit cards and it's also available when paying with debit :| |
| 09:43.47 | KotCzarny | visa/mastercard are greedy |
| 09:44.01 | KotCzarny | their prices for transactions go steadily up |
| 09:44.31 | KotCzarny | local banks here decided to invest in own instant payment system based on phone apps for that reason |
| 09:46.05 | KotCzarny | not to mention that for a few years there is a monthly fee for the card |
| 09:46.21 | KotCzarny | earlier it was ~6usd/year, now it's ~3usd/month |
| 09:46.36 | KotCzarny | the bigger they are, the greedier they become |
| 09:48.00 | Maxdamantus | So I guess the problem is that whatever mickname is doing with his credit cards, someone else is paying the â¬25 in transaction fees for the â¬1000 he's presumably borrowing every month. |
| 09:48.28 | mickname | Can't argue with that :) |
| 09:49.51 | Maxdamantus | maybe they need to make the practice of lowering the price for credit card users illegal. |
| 09:50.12 | Maxdamantus | since it's essentially a fee that all the merchants have to pay to stay in business. |
| 09:50.40 | Maxdamantus | (a fee that goes to visa/mastercard, obviously, who presumably operate as a cartel here) |
| 09:52.06 | Maxdamantus | (or equivalently, make it legal to charge less when people pay through other means) |
| 09:52.25 | mickname | yeah, that makes sense. |
| 09:52.45 | KotCzarny | who would do that |
| 09:52.49 | KotCzarny | they are big already |
| 09:53.01 | KotCzarny | and economic wars/battles are a thing |
| 09:53.47 | KotCzarny | offtopic: http://www.techamok.com/?pid=warnings-of-world-wide-worm-attacks-are-the-real-deal-20877 |
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| 09:54.45 | KotCzarny | ka-b00m |
| 09:54.52 | Maxdamantus | imo the government should provide those sorts of services. |
| 09:55.24 | Maxdamantus | if anyone is allowed to incur a 2.5% flat tax on essentially all consumer transactions, it should be the government, not private corporations. |
| 09:55.49 | Maxdamantus | (though if the government provided that service, it doesn't have to be based on a flat tax) |
| 09:56.33 | KotCzarny | there is no government anymore, they are just bussinessmen with legal tools |
| 09:57.06 | KotCzarny | and law depends on the lobbists and moneys |
| 09:58.30 | Maxdamantus | Oh yeah, forgot for a minute that the US is an oligopoly. |
| 09:58.56 | KotCzarny | it's world wide |
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