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| 01:38.40 | brolin_empey | Is it expected that a fan in a stationary computer in my office sounds much louder than usual when the temperature in my office reaches 30°C? Or is it just coincidental that the temperature is this high when the fan sounds louder than usual? |
| 01:42.25 | brolin_empey | If the loud fan is on the video card with a fan, which may be the only video card in the office that has a fan, then I should replace the fanful video card with a fanless video card. I bought this video card in 2008; since then I switched to buying only fanless video cards. This fanful video card may still be the only nVidia Quadro video card we have, though. |
| 01:45.34 | brolin_empey | I guess I should ask in ##hardware instead of here but that channel moves too quickly and they discuss current x86 hardware of little interest to me because I still use Core 2 era and older x86 computers. Well, the current x86 hardware is still of some interest to me but I probably would not have it until it is multiple years old because it depreciates too quickly to buy when it is new. |
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| 02:27.22 | Oksana | DocScrutinizer05: I try this in Firefox, Alt+D focuses on AddrBox, Shift+Tab,Tab focuses on Tab, but Shift+Ctrl+PageDown does nothing |
| 02:29.06 | Oksana | And when I try out different combinations, like Ctrl+Shift+PageDown, or PageDown+Ctrl+Shift, I get tab scrolling or something |
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| 05:19.39 | brolin_empey | Is there an x86 motherboard with a proper hardware design that stores the configuration of the motherboard firmware in non-volatile memory instead of in volatile memory powered by the cell/battery that powers the clock? After the mains power to my office was down for around a minute tonight, I had to replace the CR2032 cell/battery on a Socket-T (Core 2 era) microATX motherboard; I had forgotten that the computer user has to manually reconfigure the |
| 05:19.39 | brolin_empey | motherboard firmware after replacing the cell/battery on the motherboard because of the lame hardware design, which is presumably for historical inclusive-or cost-saving reasons. |
| 05:20.48 | brolin_empey | Socket T AKA LGA775. |
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| 05:24.09 | brolin_empey | I realise that I can use a DOS or Linux or maybe Windows (?) program to back up and restore the contents of the so-called CMOS memory but this should not be necessary because the motherboard configuration should be stored in non-volatile memory in the first place. |
| 05:25.26 | brolin_empey | motherboard firmware configuration, whatever. |
| 05:26.28 | brolin_empey | I guess expecting things to be done elegantly and using an x86 computer is ironic, haha. |
| 05:30.26 | brolin_empey | I guess oldschool switches on the motherboard can be considered a form of non-volatile memory, heh. |
| 05:30.41 | brolin_empey | switches, jumpers, whatever. |
| 05:34.01 | luke-jr | why x86? |
| 05:35.23 | brolin_empey | I guess that you would need a reliable way to clear the contents of the non-volatile memory on the motherboard even if the computer cannot boot to prevent a chicken or egg problem if the chosen configuration prevents the computer from booting. |
| 05:39.33 | brolin_empey | luke-jr: Because we need to run closed-source software built for x86 on Windows? Microsoft discontinued Windows NT for Power, specifically the PowerPC Reference Platform (PReP) but not Power Macintosh platform in NT 4. |
| 05:44.41 | brolin_empey | Microsoft kept releasing service packs for NT 4 after the PowerPC and MIPS ports of NT 4 were discontinued so NT 4 on Power or ISA is not even the current version of NT 4. |
| 05:45.23 | brolin_empey | I mean on Power or MIPS. |
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| 05:52.05 | luke-jr | lol windows |
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| 05:56.12 | inz | brolin_empey, yeah, reliable reset is a "nice to have(tm)", and also since you want the RTC to keep running, you need a battery anyway |
| 06:06.12 | brolin_empey | inz: More generally, you need constant power, which these days can be supplied by a supercapacitor instead of a battery. |
| 06:08.47 | brolin_empey | luke-jr: Dave Cutler is my hero. ;-) |
| 06:11.05 | luke-jr | what is that |
| 06:11.31 | brolin_empey | I wonder if an x86-64 CPU could switch directly between long mode and virtual 8086 mode if x86-64 had been created by Intel instead of AMD. |
| 06:12.22 | brolin_empey | I mean I wonder if Intel would have designed that part differently for better backward compatibility than how AMD designed it. |
| 06:14.17 | brolin_empey | luke-jr: What is what? A supercapacitor? Dave Cutler is the head architect of Windows NT. |
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| 06:28.56 | brolin_empey | Well, he was in the early days, maybe no longer is. |
| 06:29.20 | brolin_empey | early years. |
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| 13:01.25 | brolin_empey | Today I discovered the PicoPSU series. |
| 13:14.40 | inz | now I did, too! |
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| 15:25.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, well. 12V in -> [ATX PC] out |
| 15:25.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | might be very useful for poor man's "USV" straight from 12V LA car battery on a charger |
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| 19:28.42 | sicelo | i've had two PicoPSU's for a while, from some old i386 VIA boards |
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| 20:27.30 | slobber | what does the majority use for maps on n900? i found mappero but i'm unclear of its development state http://www.mardy.it/mappero/ |
| 20:30.19 | brolin_empey | N900 is a model of computer, not a software platform. |
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| 20:31.20 | slobber | what |
| 20:32.02 | brolin_empey | Presumably you mean Maemo but Maemo is not the only OS available for the N900. |
| 20:32.31 | slobber | yes, on maemo |
| 21:15.12 | sicelo | i still use Ovi Maps but i think Modrana is a better choice for most |
| 21:16.16 | sicelo | if you go for modrana, use the versions on github |
| 21:33.02 | slobber | thanks sicelo |
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