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| 06:05.08 | brolin_empey | Heh, I just accidentally discovered that the Web version of Google Calendar allows moving between months by rolling the mouse wheel. I have been using Google Calendar for years and never knew it had this feature until now. |
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| 08:12.04 | brolin_empey | KotCzarny: So, which model of ZenFone are you using? |
| 08:14.09 | brolin_empey | Does Maemo have something like Camscanner or Scanbot for Android? I have been using document scanner applications instead of a normal camera application a lot since I discovered document scanner applications. |
| 08:14.44 | KotCzarny | asus_x007d |
| 08:23.51 | brolin_empey | https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-Go-ZB552KL/specifications/ |
| 08:23.51 | brolin_empey | This one? It is ARM with a difficult to remove battery. |
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| 11:38.30 | sicelo | what do those apps do, brolin_empey |
| 11:46.56 | brolin_empey | sicelo: They are meant to replace a dedicated image scanner for common usage. If you want a digital photograph of something tangible and flat such as a piece of paper or a plastic card, you use the application to photograph the subject against a contrasting background (my desktop with a woodgrain texture at my office seems to suffice even though it is not a plain, uniform colour and even the transparent glass table I use at home may suffice too, I do not |
| 11:46.56 | brolin_empey | remember if it does and I am not currently at home), then the application automatically crops the subject, straightens and rotates the image, and applies a filter to brighten the image inclusive-or to improve the contrast of the image. You can manually adjust the selection for cropping and rotate the image if necessary and choose which, if any, filter to apply. |
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| 11:50.51 | sicelo | jfrontview900 on Maemo does that, although i think its feature set is not as extensive as what you just described |
| 11:51.06 | sicelo | s/jf/f/ |
| 11:54.10 | brolin_empey | sicelo: Right, I think I may have seen that type of application for Maemo but never tried that type of application for Maemo. |
| 11:54.27 | bencoh | ah right, that one is non-free :( |
| 11:57.07 | brolin_empey | bencoh: Does that matter in practice? I have used some open-source software such as the Apache HTTP Server for at least 1.5 decades by now yet cannot remember ever needing to read the source code. |
| 11:59.07 | brolin_empey | That said, in this case part of the reason why I do not need to read the source code is because the Apache HTTP Server is well documented. Sometimes I have had to read the source code of software I use because the documentation did not answer my question. |
| 11:59.38 | sixwheeledbeast | I think i used frontview900 recently pretty impressed |
| 12:11.08 | brolin_empey | Apparently Windows NT 4.0 can be built from the source codebase that was publicly leaked in 2004. I wonder if this means it is technically possible and maybe even feasible to build a version of NT 4 that runs as the host OS on the Apple Power Macintosh platform. Windows NT 4 for PowerPC as publicly released by Microsoft is for only the PowerPC Reference Platform (PReP), not the PowerMac platform, although reportedly Apple and Microsoft discussed the |
| 12:11.08 | brolin_empey | possibility of Microsoft supporting the PowerMac platform in Windows NT. Yes, I realise that Windows NT for PowerPC has significant usability limitations in practice due to much software for Windows being closed-source and not released for non-x86 architectures but this is something to be done because it can be done, not because it is often useful in practice, like me installing a 5.25-inch High-density flexible disc drive in my Core 2 Quad tower computer |
| 12:11.08 | brolin_empey | or using XF86_mono with an ET1000 model of 8-bit ISA video card from the 1980s as the only video controller in a Pentium III tower computer. |
| 12:13.29 | brolin_empey | Or using my dot-matrix impact printer with parallel interface from the 1980s on Windows 10 for x86-64 on my home computer. |
| 12:25.47 | brolin_empey | Is Apple the only brand of PowerPC notebook computer produced? |
| 12:26.59 | brolin_empey | No, IBM released at least one PowerPC ThinkPad model in around 1995. |
| 12:27.15 | KotCzarny | 10:24 #maemo brolin_empey> This one? It is ARM with a difficult to remove battery. |
| 12:27.17 | KotCzarny | only if you are completely 2 left handed |
| 12:27.20 | KotCzarny | 6 screws and back panel |
| 12:28.17 | brolin_empey | I already discussed that in this channel years (?) ago. KotCzarny apparently did not know that a PowerPC ThinkPad existed until I mentioned it. |
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| 12:31.57 | brolin_empey | KotCzarny: It is difficult to remove if you do not have the required screw driver and working space when you need to remove the battery. The battery on, for example, a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 or LG G5 can be easily and quickly removed with only hands and fingers, no tool required. |
| 12:32.55 | brolin_empey | or on a Nokia N900 for that matter. |
| 12:35.34 | Maxdamantus | My guess is that it would be easier to port Wine to PPC than to port Windows NT. |
| 12:36.05 | Maxdamantus | unless the NT codebase was already developed in such a way to make the architecture fairly generic. |
| 12:36.42 | Maxdamantus | oh, you said it was already released for PPC. |
| 12:38.44 | brolin_empey | Also, if disassembling this ZenFone model is like disassembling the Nokia N900 or some other devices, disassembling it in my office or residence with a carpeted floor means that at least one of the tiny screws falls off of the desktop/tabletop and is literally never found because it is practically impossible to find on the carpeted floor. |
| 12:40.34 | bencoh | nowadays people would just compile wine for x86 and run it using qemu-user-ppc anyway |
| 12:40.43 | brolin_empey | Maxdamantus: Yes, Windows NT 4 for PowerPC shipped but only for the PowerPC Reference Platform (PReP), not the PowerMac platform. |
| 12:47.07 | brolin_empey | And, also as already discussed in this channel months or years ago, it seems that the feature phone world may have never switched to âdifficult to removeâ/ânon-removableâ/ârequiring more than hands and fingers to removeâ batteries. |
| 12:49.53 | brolin_empey | Unless a feature phone is designed to be so low cost that the battery is soldered instead of using a connector, which I think I saw done on a very low cost feature phone from Asia. |
| 13:19.22 | brolin_empey | bencoh: What specifically is qemu-user-ppc? I know what qemu is but can find few mentions of qemu-user-ppc on the Internet. |
| 13:21.22 | bencoh | qemu-user allows running foreign arch userspace binaries by emulating cpu while still making use of host kernel for syscalls and such |
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| 13:31.23 | brolin_empey | bencoh: OK, so what did you mean in your previous comment? Using GNU+Linux for PowerPC to run Wine for x86 to effectively run a Windows application built for x86 on a PowerPC computer running GNU+Linux? |
| 13:33.40 | brolin_empey | Reportedly Wine needs support from the kernel too so I do not know if you can use Wine on a non-x86 platform if the kernel is not x86? |
| 13:34.25 | bencoh | brolin_empey: you can run x86 wine on non-x86 platforms using qemu-user |
| 13:34.41 | bencoh | (oh, and, that'd actually be qemu-user-x86 in that usecase) |
| 13:36.56 | brolin_empey | Other than using winelib to build a Windows application from source for ARM using the GNU development tools so that a Windows application can run using winelib on ARM Linux but I have still never tried that. |
| 13:38.18 | brolin_empey | bencoh: Does that work for running Windows applications built for x86 on Android for ARM even if you have to run a GNU userland/userspace and possibly an X server on top of Android? |
| 13:40.28 | bencoh | brolin_empey: https://www.maketecheasier.com/run-windows-apps-android-with-wine/ https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM |
| 13:40.33 | brolin_empey | Yes, I realise that I could use an x86 Android handheld computer such as the Asus ZenFone 2 from 2015 but I dislike the hardware design that requires more than hands and fingers to remove the battery. |
| 13:41.09 | bencoh | I wouldn't want to use windows app on a phone tbh, but that's your call |
| 13:49.52 | brolin_empey | I would rather use an x86 smartphone than use an N900 as a smartphone. |
| 13:54.54 | bencoh | your call :) |
| 13:56.52 | brolin_empey | Whilst I still used an N900, I missed many voice calls because of the N900. |
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| 22:46.56 | brolin_empey | Is there a currently available model of 2.5-inch HDD with storage capacity >2 TB but with height <=9.5 mm? I see that Seagate has 3-, 4-, and 5-TB models with 15 mm height but I need <=9.5-mm height. |
| 22:51.02 | brolin_empey | Is there any Web store that sells 2.5-inch HDDs that can search based on the height of the drive so I do not have to manually look up specs for models of drives offered? Maybe the HDD manufacturers have this capability on their Web site if they sell HDDs direct to consumers but the brand of drive does not matter. Granted, at the most I guess I would have to check only three Web sites because apparently Seagate, Western Digital, and Toshiba are the only HDD |
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| 22:55.23 | buZz | hehe. tweakers.net/pricewatch lets you filter on size |
| 22:55.32 | buZz | just checked, there's no >2TB of 9.5mm or smaller |
| 22:55.54 | buZz | Seagate Spinpoint M9T, 2TB |
| 22:56.23 | buZz | the 3TB 2.5" i have in my server is also really thick |
| 22:59.52 | brolin_empey | buZz: OK, thank you. I was hoping that 2.5-inch <=9.5-mm HDDs had surpassed 2 TB by now because they reached 2 TB in 2015, after WD brought the first 2-TB 2.5-inch HDD, which is 15 mm high, to market in 2013. |
| 23:00.31 | buZz | i think we'll see >2TB SSD 2.5" before ;) |
| 23:00.57 | buZz | oh, they're already here |
| 23:01.57 | buZz | 6.8mm thick samsung 860 QVO 4TB is 490 euro :P |
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| 23:05.08 | brolin_empey | That price is way too high for me but I did buy a 1-TB 2.5-inch SATA SSD for my office computer last year, which is awesome because it means I do not need an HDD in my office computer. |
| 23:05.36 | buZz | yeah its great to get rid of them :D |
| 23:17.34 | brolin_empey | Apparently both ST2000LM015 and ST2000LX001 are only 7 mm high. Is 2 TB still the largest storage capacity for <=9.5-mm height? |
| 23:31.00 | buZz | maybe ask in ##hardware, they might know |
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