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| 12:06.08 | brolin_empey | LTE/LTE-A is the future. N900 != LTE. Also, m14ed already left but not everyone here is male. |
| 12:10.26 | auenf | and not all of the males here are gentlemen? |
| 12:18.55 | sixwheeledbeast | LTE isn't the future |
| 12:19.08 | sixwheeledbeast | ~gender |
| 12:19.08 | infobot | I'm pregnant |
| 12:20.13 | brolin_empey | infobot: Pregnant? |
| 12:20.13 | infobot | Yes, brolin_empey, and it's your child. |
| 12:21.25 | brolin_empey | That reply would not make sense if I was female. |
| 12:23.16 | brolin_empey | Unless it means that infobot wants to give her child to a woman who asks if infobot is pregnant. |
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| 13:56.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | a very polite and friendly person, this m14ed |
| 13:59.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, infobot's gender is a miracle for modern science, seems to be undetermined like status of Schroedinger's cat |
| 13:59.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~attack brolin_empey |
| 13:59.48 | infobot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing brolin_empey |
| 14:00.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~rape brolin_empey |
| 14:00.06 | infobot | ACTION takes brolin_empey behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams |
| 14:00.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~gender |
| 14:00.56 | infobot | I'm gay |
| 14:01.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~gender |
| 14:01.00 | infobot | I'm lesbian |
| 14:01.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~gender |
| 14:01.04 | infobot | I'm male |
| 14:02.36 | Vajb | since when are gay and lesbian genders? |
| 14:03.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~useless |
| 14:03.17 | infobot | ACTION starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :( |
| 14:03.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~silly |
| 14:03.32 | infobot | silly is probably 'a good question, the answer to which is "yes, i am"' |
| 14:03.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~stupid |
| 14:03.47 | infobot | i heard stupid is http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/bart.gif |
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| 14:14.24 | brolin_empey | WallMart != Walmart. |
| 14:15.48 | brolin_empey | The âWalâ in âWalmartâ is from the name of the founder of the company, Sam Walton, not from âwallâ. |
| 14:21.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, modem reboot and thus disconnect |
| 14:22.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | and that damn cablemodem is rebooting the 5th time now |
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| 14:23.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | luckily I got a failover connection |
| 14:26.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | and next boot |
| 14:29.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | and next boot |
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| 14:30.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | just wants to know how often that box of shit reboots when _not_ getting powercycled |
| 14:33.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | just wants to know how often that box of shit reboots when _not_ getting powercycledaaaand...??? |
| 14:33.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaaand...? |
| 14:33.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems it stays |
| 14:34.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | after only 25 minutes and 8 boots |
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| 14:50.34 | sixwheeledbeast | ~insult infobot in bash |
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| 14:54.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime |
| 14:54.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+status |
| 14:54.21 | infobot | Since Mon Apr 22 20:57:11 2019, there have been 2 modifications, 40 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 21 commands. I have been awake for 1d 17h 57m 10s this session, and currently reference 119796 factoids. I'm using about 87180 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 163.28/29.51 child 0/0 |
| 14:55.20 | sixwheeledbeast | That reminds me i need a new UPS battery |
| 14:55.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least the failover and recovery works fine now |
| 14:55.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm UPS battery... Should run a test eventually |
| 14:56.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~lf |
| 14:56.19 | infobot | somebody said #maemo lazyflashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach |
| 14:58.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | one thing's for sure: the vodafone "mediathek" (cable TV on demand / IPTV) isn't worth a single cent of its cost |
| 14:59.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually the whole cable-TV / IPTV is mere crap. If it wasn't for the 400/25 internet... |
| 15:01.00 | sixwheeledbeast | Most ISP's are bundling stuff like that now. It's hard to get VDSL without a TV package now |
| 15:01.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | modems that need 8 reboots when disabling bridge-mode... Series final of Elementary ran a week ago, no way to watch it again in mediathek |
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| 15:02.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | EPG that doesn't knpw of program changes even if they are announced 48h in advance, a recorder that can't record stuff that's not listed in EPG (nice synergy in those two¡) |
| 15:03.34 | sixwheeledbeast | I suppose that's the issue with DOCSIS you have no control over what modem they provide you, unlike VDSL. Tho you benefit from faster up and down. |
| 15:03.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | and every now and then the HDR simply reboots or locks up and needs power cycle |
| 15:04.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | DOCSIS is what causes the 8 modem reboots |
| 15:04.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | for nuttin |
| 15:04.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | so not really faster up/down |
| 15:11.05 | sixwheeledbeast | The cable may be balanced incorrectly if it happens often. DOCSIS it fussy about line quality and having the correct filtering. |
| 15:11.37 | sixwheeledbeast | Would have to moan to the ISP for an engineer to fix than. |
| 15:14.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | line equ works fine. The modem bails out after trying to config "VoIP" |
| 15:15.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | most likely on trying to set up friggin "homespot" which I explicitly opted out from |
| 15:18.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | took them 3 months and me ~20h of hotline calls to get my account/DOCSIS set up so it _never_ enables the damn AP in modem |
| 15:19.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess they don't have that often, and they also are not very inclined to sell this featureset |
| 15:19.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | after all their homespot stuff only works when >99% of users participate |
| 15:20.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | thus they place a homespot AP into your flat even if you don't want any WLAN at all |
| 15:20.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | there _are no_ modems without AP |
| 15:23.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://zuhauseplus.vodafone.de/internet-telefon/wlan-hotspots/ |
| 15:23.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | damn |
| 15:25.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah https://hotspot.vodafone.de/hotspots.html |
| 15:32.51 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: Can you get FttP service at your location? |
| 15:33.21 | sixwheeledbeast | That seems to be an issue here with ISP's that are also cellular they offer guest WiFi via your internet that can't be switched off if you use there hardware |
| 15:34.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: nope |
| 15:35.28 | sixwheeledbeast | I need use any ISP provided kit where possible. DOCSIS is the most awkward to ditch the modem |
| 15:35.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: yep, that's it. They clain you could switch it off via the web portal, but that's questionable |
| 15:35.38 | sixwheeledbeast | s/need/never/ |
| 15:35.47 | brolin_empey | The Nokia media converter (correct term?) box my ISP (Telus in Canada) provided when I switched from ADSL at both my home and office seems to mostly work well. |
| 15:37.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: you can't even find the credentials to use their VoIP, "only via DOCSIS, even when you use your own Fritzbox Cablemodem-router" |
| 15:37.34 | brolin_empey | At both places I use my own gateway instead of using a gateway provided by the ISP. |
| 15:37.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | gateway? |
| 15:38.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | now needs to set up some VPN to finaly re-establish a way to "dial in" from internet |
| 15:38.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | no IP with this cable service |
| 15:39.06 | sixwheeledbeast | Ah I see we still have POTS when you have DOCSIS here |
| 15:39.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | or rather, cgNAT with no open ports inbound |
| 15:39.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | POTS is dead here |
| 15:39.48 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: Yes, WANâLAN gateway, commonly known as a ârouterâ but I use formal terms, not common usage. |
| 15:39.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | even Telekom uses tripleplay |
| 15:40.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | not even ISDN anymore |
| 15:41.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | IOW with a power outage, no more phone >:-( |
| 15:41.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | nowhere. Nada |
| 15:42.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | wants to shoot the dude who allowed this concept |
| 15:42.30 | sixwheeledbeast | ISDN and POTS are dying here for xDSL connections EOL in 2025. It's not certain how it will be implemented tho. |
| 15:42.52 | sixwheeledbeast | however POTS may stay on DOCSIS connections |
| 15:43.08 | brolin_empey | At least in my part of Canada (Metro Vancouver, British Columbia), the cellular network is still up while the electric mains is down. |
| 15:43.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, for a while |
| 15:44.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe the dwindling number of cellular phones with charged battery mitigates the service breakdown from clogging |
| 15:45.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | but then, the BTS batteries also only last a maybe 12 or max 24h |
| 15:45.57 | brolin_empey | I can power my handheld computer from my car while the electric mains is down. |
| 15:47.18 | sixwheeledbeast | The idea behind killing POTS is so the exchanges can be made smaller and have no batteries that need maintaining |
| 15:48.21 | brolin_empey | I can also keep spare charged batteries because I only use handheld computers with an easily removable battery. |
| 15:48.40 | buZz | :) |
| 15:48.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, why batteries in exchanges when no customer can operate their "gateway" any more ;-D |
| 15:48.53 | buZz | i just bought a new lipo from aliexpress for a 2007 Zipit Z2 |
| 15:48.55 | buZz | \o/ |
| 15:49.12 | buZz | the newoldstock batteries are barely 100mAh left of the original 1200mAh |
| 15:50.28 | brolin_empey | I remember when Zipit was a Windows application similar to WinZip. |
| 15:50.37 | buZz | :) |
| 15:50.53 | buZz | zipit wireless is a US company , making 'medical messengers' |
| 15:51.04 | buZz | but back in early 2k they dabbled in making kids toys |
| 15:52.20 | brolin_empey | Yes, I remember reading about a Zipit computer running GNU+Linux years ago; I guess it was the Z2 that you mentioned. |
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| 15:55.07 | buZz | the Z2 nowadays can run mainline linux |
| 15:55.29 | buZz | but just 32MB ram so we're using openwrt as distro ;) |
| 15:56.32 | brolin_empey | Is that the same amount of main memory as the PlayStation 2 has? |
| 15:58.14 | buZz | but PS2 has another 4MB of video ram next to it |
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| 15:59.44 | brolin_empey | Yes, I checked Wikipedia and see that my memory was accurate that the PlayStation 2 has 32 MiB of main memory. |
| 16:01.17 | brolin_empey | I recall that a late IBM PS/2 model supports up to at least 64 MiB of main memory, more than the Sony PS2. |
| 16:01.57 | buZz | :) |
| 16:02.04 | buZz | could very well be yeah :D |
| 16:02.12 | sixwheeledbeast | If you have a UPS in theory you would still be fine. Most people would not. |
| 16:02.14 | buZz | i bet the PS2 devkits also had more ram |
| 16:05.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: there's one gremlin in UPS here: the cable signal amp down in cellar which will cut me off from cable |
| 16:06.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | got reminded to run a mains supply cable from first floor down to that damn amp |
| 16:07.33 | sixwheeledbeast | only a small gremlin tho |
| 16:07.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, very small and very close, all the more very annoying too |
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| 20:31.11 | brolin_empey | Apparently an inkjet printer with automatic duplex printing does exist as a COTS product after all. Interesting but I still prefer laser printers. |
| 20:33.28 | brolin_empey | Is there a dot-matrix impact printer with automatic duplex printing? |
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| 21:59.59 | brolin_empey | Heh, my ISP sent my company a paper cheque for 3.72 CAD. |
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| 23:39.13 | r00t-home | brolin_empey: shoouldn't the question pretty much be "was there", for dot-matrix printers? |
| 23:41.43 | brolin_empey | r00t-home: No, it should be present tense because dot-matrix impact printers are still used and produced but have been largely replaced by inkjet and laser printers for home/consumer usage. |
| 23:42.16 | r00t-home | ok, right |
| 23:43.01 | r00t-home | but it seems would guess it's more likely that one was being produced in the past than one being produced now |
| 23:43.19 | r00t-home | s/would guess it's// |
