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| 05:27.47 | brolin_empey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentalobe_security_screw |
| 05:27.47 | brolin_empey | I somehow managed to miss the news that Apple tries to screw its customers who try to disassemble Apple products by using an unusual type of screw. I guess the Apple fanpersons try to hide this fact. |
| 06:10.04 | Vajb | They should use nails, no head no tampering. |
| 06:11.54 | KotCzarny | or just weld things together |
| 06:12.10 | KotCzarny | as a bonus, more dust resistant! |
| 06:15.15 | brolin_empey | Nails have a head. |
| 06:15.26 | KotCzarny | SOME HAVE |
| 06:17.36 | brolin_empey | Is it feasible to use an LTE or LTE-A cellular modem as a fax modem? |
| 06:17.56 | KotCzarny | is it possible that you have too much time ? |
| 06:18.38 | brolin_empey | s/time/free time/ |
| 06:21.23 | brolin_empey | Usually I can use the POTS line at my office to send a fax but these lines are temporarily down but I still have an LTE or LTE-A cellular modem so my question is pragmatic in this case because I need to send a fax. |
| 06:27.26 | brolin_empey | I discovered pentalobe screws today only because I know someone IRL whose Apple iPhone needs a new battery. |
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| 06:36.29 | sixwheeledbeast | I have a head but I don't believe it unscrews... |
| 06:36.39 | KotCzarny | it does |
| 06:36.41 | KotCzarny | only once |
| 06:36.49 | KotCzarny | and you have 2 heads at least |
| 06:36.57 | KotCzarny | so can be tried twice |
| 06:39.26 | sixwheeledbeast | Good to know there is some redundancy there then if I break this one. AFAIK to unscrew implies there is a thread that can be adjusted? |
| 06:40.06 | KotCzarny | then term 'screwing someone' is used incorrectly with humans, i guess |
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| 06:41.27 | sixwheeledbeast | Maybe the term is from ducks. |
| 06:41.34 | KotCzarny | you mean pigs |
| 06:41.41 | KotCzarny | but still |
| 06:42.15 | sixwheeledbeast | Well I meant ducks but I suppose other animals have similar |
| 06:42.25 | KotCzarny | check out pigs then |
| 06:42.29 | KotCzarny | you will be amazed |
| 06:50.03 | Vajb | screwing pigs sounds wrong from the start |
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| 06:54.01 | KotCzarny | drop the prejudice, educate yourself |
| 06:54.02 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 06:55.34 | sixwheeledbeast | Interference fit doesn't quite have the same sound as screwing. |
| 06:56.42 | KotCzarny | being too loose also lowers the fun |
| 06:56.54 | KotCzarny | and sometimes prevents it altogether |
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| 07:19.08 | KotCzarny | being too big also prevents the fun |
| 07:19.20 | KotCzarny | tool has to fit the task |
| 07:50.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | you generally can't do FAX via GDM codec at all. Via .711(?) (16bit 8kHz) it should work. And finally there's a specail T.??? protocol made for FAX. So it depends what codec your device and far end negotiate |
| 07:50.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | GSM |
| 07:52.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | headline looks to be on topic, didn't check at all: https://nexbridge.co.uk/what-is-the-difference-between-g711-g729-and-gsm-and-why-does-the-codec-matter/ |
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| 08:53.16 | brolin_empey | I did my own research, redd some discussions on Quora, found this Android application: |
| 08:53.16 | brolin_empey | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=to.fax.android |
| 08:53.16 | brolin_empey | It is interesting because it sounds like I do not have to subscribe to a paid service I will barely use but why is this application 51 MiB? 0_o I think my question was phrased too theoretically. I should have asked: Is it feasible to use the LTE or LTE-A cellular connectivity on my handheld computer running the Android OS to send a fax instead of using a fax modem with a POTS line or using some type of gateway to send a fax over the Internet to a fax |
| 08:53.16 | brolin_empey | server? I can walk from my home to a business that offers fax sending and receiving service but I have no idea what they charge for this service. |
| 08:54.40 | bencoh | there are quite a 'lot' of internet FAX service providers, yeah |
| 08:55.07 | bencoh | most just require you to register/prepay and allow you to upload a pdf/image file |
| 08:55.54 | bencoh | some ISPs also provide this service for 'free' (or a minimum charging fee) |
| 08:56.33 | bencoh | (usually those ISPs also provide phone services) |
| 09:00.14 | brolin_empey | Usually I could just use a POTS line at my office to send a fax but our POTS is temporarily suspended. |
| 09:01.17 | brolin_empey | I caught myself after I wrote âPOTS serviceâ, heh. |
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| 09:44.16 | sixwheeledbeast | Happens with a lot of acronyms especially those that end in S like service or system for example. |
| 09:44.45 | sixwheeledbeast | SIPS system. Side Impact protection System, System. |
| 09:45.30 | sixwheeledbeast | ABS system. Anti-lock Brake system, system. |
| 09:47.36 | bencoh | :) |
| 09:54.03 | sixwheeledbeast | For some reason there are more vehicular ones coming to mind at the moment. |
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| 11:27.20 | KotCzarny | i wonder if 'no sim' could be caused by that little slot side pin oxidation |
| 11:27.40 | KotCzarny | recently i was getting nosim again, and looked at it closely |
| 11:28.45 | KotCzarny | seems like contact could be getting worse over the years, i've cleaned it a little and bend tiny bit upwards |
| 11:28.56 | KotCzarny | lets see how it fares in the next few weeks/months |
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| 12:09.21 | Vajb | I doubt the side pin does anything but grounds the sim dock. |
| 12:11.47 | KotCzarny | imo it's a safety measure so it wont get powered while open etc |
| 12:12.17 | KotCzarny | as it's specifically springed to act when it gets closed |
| 12:12.46 | KotCzarny | try putting tiny piece of paper during closing to check if modem acts with 'no sim' on boot |
| 12:16.00 | Vajb | oh, didn't think it would work like that but that is possible. |
| 12:16.17 | Vajb | no need for checking now ;) |
| 12:16.37 | KotCzarny | it might be also just gpio pin signalling open/close without any circuitry over that |
| 12:16.54 | KotCzarny | hard to know without schematics |
| 12:17.24 | Vajb | but also hard to open that switch without removing battery |
| 12:17.39 | KotCzarny | that's the funny part |
| 12:17.55 | KotCzarny | what function it has? |
| 12:18.27 | Vajb | but it could be some "just in case" method if the device is tested in a r&d bench without battery |
| 12:18.44 | Vajb | if such thing ever existed |
| 12:18.53 | Vajb | or is it excisted? |
| 12:19.00 | KotCzarny | 'existed' |
| 12:19.07 | KotCzarny | but yeah, those exist |
| 12:19.26 | KotCzarny | ie. some risers that you can plug serial port underneath battery |
| 12:19.54 | Vajb | thats the only function that I can think of it |
| 12:23.11 | KotCzarny | http://n900.elektranox.org/serial-adapter-gallery.html |
| 12:23.12 | KotCzarny | o.O |
| 12:24.00 | KotCzarny | anyway, 'grounding' function of the pin is unlikely as the whole slot is made from metal anyway |
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| 12:26.44 | zenev0 | why my n9 will black out after i turned off the als |
| 12:27.19 | Vajb | interesting like |
| 12:27.27 | Vajb | link* |
| 12:28.00 | zenev0 | when i lock the screen then i can't unlock it again |
| 12:28.06 | Vajb | looks a bit like tv shop "do you suffer of broken usb port"... |
| 12:28.36 | Vajb | zenev0: I dont have N9, sorry. |
| 12:29.07 | Vajb | is there dedicated channel for N9? |
| 12:30.46 | zenev0 | if there was i would appreciate |
| 12:31.23 | KotCzarny | ask a question and leave, thats not how irc works, heh |
| 12:32.05 | Vajb | maybe he went to find one... |
| 12:32.48 | KotCzarny | anyway, do you suffer 'nosim/no network' syndrome on your n900? |
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| 12:41.41 | Vajb | KotCzarny: not anymore. I switched to my spare n900 |
| 12:41.57 | KotCzarny | do you still have the quirky one? |
| 12:42.04 | Vajb | but old one knew the trick |
| 12:42.12 | Vajb | sure |
| 12:44.00 | KotCzarny | maybe you could put some spare sim in it to test the pin theory |
| 12:44.01 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 12:50.01 | Vajb | we'll see, but I dont promise ;)ä |
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| 15:51.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>The X210 is a strange machine. A set of Chinese enthusiasts developed a series of motherboards that slot into old Thinkpad chassis, providing significantly more up to date hardware.<< and a nice detail: >>The other fun thing about it is that none of the firmware flashing protection is enabled, including Intel Boot Guard.<< |
| 15:51.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/50924.html |
| 16:01.52 | r00t-home | interestingn read, that signal handling article... i'd maybe add: it's rare and maybe bad practice to call interactive programs from scripts, the handling inside scripts mostly applies to scripts called by other scripts, and even when not killing oneself in the signal handler, good practice would be to exit with error status (not success), and then good practivce for a calling script would in most cases be to abort |
| 16:18.41 | buZz | DocScrutinizer05: whats strange about it? |
| 16:19.07 | buZz | oh, they confused X201 and X210 there? :P (x210 didnt exist) |
| 16:19.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | hm? |
| 16:20.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | you looked at https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/50924.html ? |
| 16:20.52 | buZz | ah, its about 51nb's modelnumber |
| 16:20.58 | buZz | but , x210 isnt a -machine- |
| 16:21.02 | buZz | its just a collection mods to x201 |
| 16:22.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | X210 is to X201 what Neo900 is to N900 |
| 16:22.26 | buZz | interesting part is mostly the irrelevance :P not many ppl voluntary pay ~900 euro for a motherboard for a ancient laptop ;) |
| 16:22.38 | buZz | probably less 51nb customers then neo900 ones :P |
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| 16:24.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | the openness might be worth it |
| 16:25.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas [5 Apr 2019 17:46:04] <L29Ah> too bad the X210 guy won't answer my pleas about low level docs/source code, so i have to reverse engineer to fix its faults |
| 16:27.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | buZz: I just wonder if you're aware I just quoted. I never said X210 is a machine. Or anything else in that regard |
| 16:28.27 | buZz | ok, your paste did ;) |
| 16:29.18 | KotCzarny | i guess quite important bit is disabled mei with coreboot? |
| 16:29.26 | KotCzarny | or it's deeper than that? |
| 16:30.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | good question |
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| 16:34.39 | KotCzarny | Why not Libreboot? Because modern Intel SoCs haven't had their memory initialisation code reverse engineered, so the only way to boot them is to use the proprietary Intel Firmware Support Package |
| 16:34.41 | KotCzarny | fun |
| 16:34.54 | KotCzarny | why the hell is such thing kept closed/ |
| 16:35.17 | KotCzarny | and it includes arm systems too |
| 16:37.06 | KotCzarny | also interesting bit from comments: |
| 16:37.07 | KotCzarny | No implied judgement here, but may I ask out of curiosity why you copyrighted your files "Copyright (C) 2018 Google Inc."? Was this work you did for Google (which would surprise me a bit). |
| 16:37.11 | KotCzarny | As a US-based employee of Google, Google assert that they own all software I develop (even in my own time) |
| 16:40.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | [5 Apr 2019 18:36:55] <L29Ah> but it's convenient to also use me_cleaner during coreboot installation |
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